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On 8 Dec 2000, at 13:47, Samantha L. wrote:

>   And your factual support for such a statement is..........?
>
> Samantha

While it's no longer necessary for armies of the dead to travel from polling
place to polling place, the same thing is accomplished now by dedicated
party bosses who manufacture phantom votes for those who are no longer
able to make it in to vote.

And yes, I am aware that there is also Republican vote fraud, but the
majority of it seems to occur in primaries and/or local elections - probably
because they don't control enough punch-card precincts to get away with it
on a national level, unlike the Democrats.

The Votescam video shot in Miami showed the League of
Women Voters using pencils to punch holes in the computer vote cards
This coincided with evidence the Colliers had gleaned in Miami years
earlier where they discovered that precinct captains had taken ballot
cards home a week before elections to punch out a slate of candidates
using an IBM Port-o-punch. This device could punch identical holes in a
pad of 50 cards. The tweezers were used to pull out tabs that didn't "fall
out" because the cards were packed together when they were punched.
...then-State Attorney in Miami, Janet Reno, ... As detailed in
Votescam, when Attorney Ellis Rubin, appointed by the Miami Circuit
Court, brought our evidence of vote fraud to Janet Reno in Dade
County, she told Rubin that prosecution would bring down too
many people, including judges and news media heads.
***

"Statistical evidence establishes beyond reasonable doubt that 19,120 Presidential 
race ballots were destroyed
by deliberate double-punching ballots in Palm Beach County FL with a 'second punch' 
for Al Gore or Pat Buchanan."
"There is explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach 
[County]. These ballots show
Democratic voter fraud . . . NOT Republican fraud or 'voter error' as publicized by 
the national media. Statistical evidence
cannot prove any single ballot was tampered with, nor show which individual tampered 
with any single ballot. It can show
specific places and times and methods where the fraud was done. (For example, if 
15,000 dollars are missing from the
register the day after your cashier left on a Los Vegas vacation, there is no direct 
evidence that the cashier stole the
money. If, however, 19,120 dollars are missing from the register the next year when 
the cashier again leaves for
vacation in Los Vegas, one has reason to investigate the cashier closely.)"
"ONLY Palm Beach County Florida voters seem incapable of understanding and using this 
style of ballot. Palm Beach
 County has an error rate TEN TIMES larger than reported in ANY other county in the 
nation using paper punch ballots!"
"ONLY in Palm Beach (and in ONLY the most heavily Democratic precincts) were 19,120 
ballots rejected in 2000 for
double punching. . . (This is a 4.4% error rate overall; in the rest of Florida there 
is less than 1/2 of ONE percent 'double
punch' error rate!"
"ONLY in Palm Beach did this 'double punch' error happen ONLY in the 
Gore-Bush-Buchanan selections for President.
(In a truly random 'error,' the mistakes happen in every race, all at about the same 
rate. In Palm Beach, the massive errors
 -- over 19,000 -- ONLY happened in the Presidential race.)"
"ONLY in Palm Beach did Gore GAIN 750 votes in a recount. In 50 out of 67 counties in 
FL, the actual change in the
recount was 5-7 votes, and in 63 out of 67 counties, the total change was less than 30 
votes either way. Further, in
63 out of 67 counties the 'changes' were somewhat evenly divided between ALL the 
candidates, in rough proportion
to the original number of votes. This is the statistically expected result, and 
represents a true and legal recount of the
ballots without any change in the ballots themselves."
"Palm Beach [County] had an error rate in favor of Gore more than 120 TIMES greater 
than any other county. . . ."
"In EVERY precinct in Palm Beach where Gore got more votes than there are registered 
Democrats, Bush received
less than 60% of the registered Republican votes. In NO precinct in Palm Beach County 
did Bush receive more than
 80% of the number of registered Republicans."
"ONLY in Palm Beach did Bush receive LESS than 65% of the registered Republican voters.
(Registered Republicans = 231,626 while Bush voters = 152,954.) On average, in every 
other county in FL Bush received
MORE votes than there were registered Republicans."
"Also, unique in the entire state, the percentage of Republican voters COUNTED as 
voting in Palm Beach was much
less than normal, despite the pre-election attention to Florida as a critical state; 
and massive Republican get -out-the-vote
campaigns."
"ONLY in Palm Beach County do the smaller (Congressional) races outdraw the 
Presidential race."
"ONLY in Palm Beach did Buchanan get less than HALF of the votes he received before in 
1996."
"There is a simple, single explanation for ALL of these 19,120 problems in ONE set of 
ballots in ONE district in ONE state."
"15,000 Bush ballots, and 3,400 more Buchanan ballots, were double-punched to imitate 
a Gore vote, AFTER legitimate voters
 left their polling booth."
"It is statistically impossible (odds of over 149 million to 1) to have ONE county out 
of 67 change its recount votes by over
 900 votes if it is counting untainted, unaltered ballots, while the other 64 counties 
(using legal methods) change their
recounts by less than 30 votes either way!"
"Palm Beach County was one the last counties in Florida to release its voting results, 
and the Palm Beach County
results were critical in a last minute 'surge' in Gore votes that reduced Bush's lead 
from 50,000 votes (in Florida overall)
to less than 1500. Late delivery of votes, with the specific precinct vote count 
delayed until the required number of votes
is known, is classic symptom of local election fraud. It DOES NOT prove fraud, but 
late delivery of vote results is the most
common way of tampering with the vote, and is essential if ballot tampering is 
involved in the vote fraud. Late delivery of
fraudulent votes has happened in several previous democratic elections at the national 
level, showing that the individuals
involved had close knowledge of previous fraud and its successes."
"Also, national democratic teams were in flight to Palm Beach immediately after 
midnight, again before the results were
officially known to anyone. This indicates that democratic leaders at the precinct 
level (and thus the national level) knew
about the 'confusion' (accidentally/incorrectly double-punched Buchanan ballots) 
BEFORE the Palm Beach votes were
counted, and several hours before they were released to the Florida election 
officials."
"Note too that this telemarketing campaign began before the Palm Beach results were 
announced. Before anyone
(other than election officials) knew how many double-punched ballots
existed, nor which ballot choices (for president) were double-punched."
"Thus, there is a pattern not of massive error by the voters, but of continued fraud 
by the Democratic election committee
 members and local officials. Further indication of deliberate fraud is that there is 
no evidence of previous massive 'voter error'
in Democratic primaries, Democratic runoff's, or Congressional races the past years."
-- From Ballot Tampering and Voter Fraud in Palm Beach County by Robert A. Cook, PE.  
Posted here: 12-4-00.
http://www.youdontsay.org/Mustread.htm
***

"VOTE FRAUD IN 2000 A CERTAINTY
Crime/Corruption Opinion (Published) Keywords: VOTE FRAUD
Source: Jack Thompson
Author: John Fund
Posted on 10/24/2000 09:03:47 PDT by RMDupree
Jack Thompson, Attorney

1172 South Dixie Highway, Suite 111

Coral Gables, Florida 33146-2750

Phone:  305-XXX-XXXX

Fax:  305-XXX-XXXX

October 24, 2000

IMMEDIATE  NEWS  RELEASE
The Wall Street Journal's John Fund noted in an incisive piece published
yesterday that the risk of electronic vote fraud in this year's Presidential
election is real.   It is more than a risk:  it is a certainty.

The one federal law enforcement official entrusted with the duty to
investigate and prosecute vote fraud is someone who has not just failed to
do so in the past but who has in fact covered up such vote fraud.  Her name
is Janet Reno.

Still available in print is a book by Jim and Ken Collier entitled
Votescam:  The Stealing of America.  Recounted therein, among other true
tales, are the efforts of the Collier brothers to alert then Dade County
(Florida) State Attorney Janet Reno to computer vote fraud here.  They
found bogus ballots in boxes and took the ballots to Reno.  She had them
arrested for stealing (get this) government property.  Every first-semester
law student knows there is no crime if there is no criminal intent.  Taking
evidence proving a crime directly to a prosecutor is not a crime; it is
grounds for receiving the key to the city.  Reno thought and acted
otherwise.

Reno dragged out the prosecution of the Colliers for two years to
bankrupt and discredit them, and on the eve of the trial in which the
complicity of her and her office would be proven, she dropped the charges.

In another instance, Reno's female assistant at the Justice Department
journeyed back to Hialeah, Florida, to work in the campaign for Raul
Martinez for Mayor. Reno's assistant was caught falsifying absentee
ballots!

Florida's electoral votes may be the key to who wins the White House.
There is a history of electronic vote fraud here, since the last election for
Mayor of Miami was thrown out because of vote fraud.  Reno's apparatus is
still fully in place here.  It works.

At  the end of the last Presidential debate, Governor Bush urged those
who support Al Gore to "vote only once."  There is no indication that
Governor Bush knows that this is not just a joke.  The Bush campaign
should be talking seriously about vote fraud across the nation, for two
reasons:
1) to send a warning shot over the bow of the Clinton/Gore Justice
Department, and
2) to remind voters that this is the most corrupt Justice Department in
our nation's history.  Governor Bush will be a victim of vote fraud in
Florida.  That is certain.  It may cost him the election.  Better that he
know it now. "

Mr. Thompson was Reno's Republican Opponent in the General Election of
1988 for the Office of Dade County State Attorney.  His extended bio is
available at www.kepplerassociates.com, go to "speaker by name," click
on "Jack Thompson"
Posted on http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39f5b2e316c3.htm
***

FYI . . .
Commentary
Phantom Voters May Have
Real Impact at Polls
By John H. Fund, a member of the Journal's
editorial board.
10/23/00
The audience laughed at the end
of the third debate when George W. Bush closed by thanking his supporters
and saying "for those of you for my opponent, please vote only once." It
was a joke, but one with serious overtones.
Many experts think this election could be as close as the one in 1960,
when John F. Kennedy won by less than one vote per precinct. If so, this
year's election could include similar allegations of vote fraud. "Just as
in 1960, the temptation to steal votes in key swing states will be
enormous," says political scientist Larry Sabato of the University of
Virginia. "Complacency is so great and enforcement so lax that the odds
are we'll never know how much fraud was committed."
Kennedy supporters used local political bosses in Chicago and Texas to
pad vote totals. Vote fraud today is more sophisticated but may be just as
pervasive. "We have the modern world's sloppiest election systems," says
University of Texas political scientist Walter Dean Burnham.
Indeed, voter fraud has become a bigger problem since the 1993 federal
Motor Voter law required states to allow people to register to vote when
they get a driver's license; 47 states don't require any proof of U.S.
residence for enrollment. Motor Voter has added some eight million people
to the rolls, but the bipartisan polling team of Ed Goeas and Celinda Lake
estimates that less than 5% of "motor voters" normally go to the polls. The
Justice Department has often blocked states from weeding out people who
have died or changed addresses.
That's important because in most states you don't have to show photo
identification to vote, making it quite easy for someone to vote in someone
else's name. It also makes it easier to manipulate the growing number of
absentee ballots. In 1998, more than 40% of ballots cast in Washington,
Oregon and Nevada were absentee votes. Another 13 states saw between
20% and 40% of their votes cast absentee.
In 1998, the mayoral election in Miami was thrown out after it was
learned "vote brokers" had signed hundreds of phony absentee ballots. That
same year, former Democratic Rep. Austin Murphy of Pennsylvania was
convicted of absentee voter fraud. "In this area there's a pattern of
nursing-home administrators frequently forging ballots under residents'
names," says Sean Cavanagh, a Democratic county supervisor who
uncovered the scandal. He believes law enforcement turns a blind eye to
voter fraud in many other places.
A number of hotly contested races this year could hinge on voter fraud.
Rep. James Rogan (R., Calif.), a House impeachment manager, says that in
this year's primary his sister-in-law accidentally discovered someone had
cast an absentee ballot in her name. "The system is ripe for abuse," says
Mr. Rogan, a former municipal judge.
Mr. Rogan's biggest complaint is that California and many other states
don't require voters to show any identification at the polls. This
continues at a time when you have to show photo ID to cash a check, board
an airplane or even get a library card. Those under age 27 now have to show
ID to buy cigarettes, but not to vote. Four attempts to pass a photo ID
requirement in California have died in the legislature.
Some politicians try to make the current system even more susceptible to
fraud. Vice President Gore's office took the lead in convincing the
Immigration and Naturalization Service to waive "stupid rules" on
background checks so that hundreds of thousands of people awaiting
citizenship would be "processed in time" for the 1996 election. It was
later learned that 75,000 new citizens had arrest records when they
applied. A spot check of 100 random new citizens by the House Judiciary
Committee found that 20% of the sample had been arrested for serious
crimes after they were given citizenship.
What can be done about voter fraud? This year, Virginia will require
voters to show ID or sign a sworn statement of their identity. The Voting
Integrity Project, a national watchdog group, is helping local governments
clean up their voter rolls. Mike Rogers, a former Federal Bureau of
Investigation agent who is running for Congress in Michigan, says one
precinct in his district has had a 109% voter turnout; he plans to employ
off-duty policemen to check up on polling places.
But anyone who combats vote fraud comes in for abuse. The Justice
Department has become expert at raising cries of "voter intimidation" at
any attempt to monitor polling places. Last week Justice dispatched
investigators to Fort Worth, Texas, merely because a political activist
there distributed leaflets alleging Democrats were casting absentee ballots
on behalf of shut-in voters. When the Miami Herald won a Pulitzer Prize for
its reporting on the fraud in that city's mayoral election, the Pulitzer
jury noted it had been subject to "a public campaign accusing the paper of
ethnic bias and attempted intimidation." Local officials who've tried to
purge voter rolls of felons and noncitizens have been hit with nuisance
lawsuits alleging civil-rights abuse.
Nonsense. A generation ago, the existence of insidious poll taxes and
other forms of voter intimidation represented a real threat to local
democracy. But those problems have receded, only to be replaced by
old-fashioned ballot rigging. This year saw teams of election observers in
Peru, Zimbabwe and Yugoslavia, countries where fraud has been rampant.
Perhaps it's time for some election observers in our own backyard. Surely
the right to vote includes an equal right not to have that ballot diluted
by phantom or manipulated voters, especially when the stakes are nothing
less than the presidency.
8 Posted on 10/24/2000 09:20:52 PDT by harpu
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Wall Street Journal Fears Vote Fraud
Politics/Elections Front Page News
Source: NewsMax,com
Published: 10/24/00 Author: Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 10/24/2000 21:07:27 PDT by kattracks
If the presidential election is still neck and neck on Election Day, the
race may be decided by phantom voters, warns the Wall Street
Journal�s John Fund.
"Many experts think this election could be as close as the one in 1960,
when John F. Kennedy won by less than one vote per precinct. If so,
this year's election could include similar allegations of vote fraud," Fund
wrote in Tuesday�s edition.
"'Just as in 1960, the temptation to steal votes in key swing states will be
enormous,'" political scientist Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia
told the Journal. "Complacency is so great and enforcement so lax that
the odds are we'll never know how much fraud was committed."
Fund quotes other experts who believe that vote fraud is anything but a
relic of the past. It�s different only because it�s more sophisticated. It is
no longer necessary for the dead to rise on Election Day and flock to the
polls - there are far easier ways to steal elections nowadays.
In 1996, for example, Vice President Gore's office used the massive
power of the executive branch to get the Immigration and Naturalization
Service to waive "stupid rules" on background checks so that hundreds
of thousands of people awaiting citizenship would be "processed in time"
for the 1996 election to cast grateful votes for their Democrat
benefactors.
"It was later learned that 75,000 new citizens had arrest records when
they applied. A spot check of 100 random new citizens by the House
Judiciary Committee found that 20 percent of the sample had been
arrested for serious crimes after they were given citizenship," the Journal
reported.
"We have the modern world's sloppiest election systems,"  University of
Texas political scientist Walter Dean Burnham told Fund.
Making fraud easier are laws such as the 1993 federal Motor Voter law
that required states to allow people to register to vote when they get a
driver's license. Moreover, 47 states don't require any proof of U.S.
residence for enrollment.  The Motor Voter law has added some 8
million people to the rolls, but the bipartisan polling team of Ed Goeas
and Celinda Lake estimates that fewer than 5 percent of "motor voters"
normally go to the polls.
Incredibly, Janet Reno�s Justice Department has often blocked states
from purging people from the voting rolls who have died or changed
addresses. Purging the rolls is an important check against fraud, because
in most states nobody is required to show photo identification before
voting and it�s easy for phantom voters to use other people�s names to
vote.
The Reno Justice Department has also taken the lead in making
accusations  of "voter intimidation" when anybody tries to monitor polling
places for incidents of fraud. Last week, for example, Justice sent
investigators to Fort Worth, Texas, to check on a political activist who
distributed leaflets accusing local Democrats of casting absentee ballots
on behalf of shut-in voters.
Fund recalls that when the Miami Herald won a Pulitzer Prize for its
reporting on the fraud in that city's mayoral election, the Pulitzer jury
noted it had been subject to "a public campaign accusing the paper of
ethnic bias and attempted intimidation." Local officials who've tried to
purge voter rolls of felons and non-citizens have been hit with nuisance
lawsuits alleging civil-rights abuse.
In 1960, after JFK edged Nixon out in an election marked by massive
incidents of voter fraud, a South Carolina Democrat congressman told a
Nixon staff member, "You Republicans had better learn that unless you
win big, we�ll steal it from you."
Nothing seems to have changed all that much.
1 Posted on 10/24/2000 21:07:27 PDT by kattracks
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39f65c7f25ff.htm
***
To: kattracks
Incredibly, Janet Reno�s Justice Department has often blocked states
from purging people from the voting rolls who have died or changed
addresses. Purging the rolls is an important check against fraud, because
in most states nobody is required to show photo identification before
voting and it�s easy for phantom voters to use other people�s names to
vote.
The Reno Justice Department has also taken the lead in making
accusations of "voter intimidation" when anybody tries to monitor polling
places for incidents of fraud. Last week, for example, Justice sent
investigators to Fort Worth, Texas, to check on a political activist who
distributed leaflets accusing local Democrats of casting absentee ballots
on behalf of shut-in voters.
Fund recalls that when the Miami Herald won a Pulitzer Prize for its
reporting on the fraud in that city's mayoral election, the Pulitzer jury
noted it had been subject to "a public campaign accusing the paper of
ethnic bias and attempted intimidation." Local officials who've tried to
purge voter rolls of felons and non-citizens have been hit with nuisance
lawsuits alleging civil-rights abuse.
In 1960, after JFK edged Nixon out in an election marked by massive
incidents of voter fraud, a South Carolina Democrat congressman told a
Nixon staff member, "You Republicans had better learn that unless you
win big, we�ll steal it from you."
Hello again, kattracks. Another quality post. No, it's not incredible that
Janet Reno has blocked attempts to stop vote fraud. She has covered
up for the misconduct of her fellow Democrats at every opportunity.
Here in Illinois, where the Daley political machine is alive and kicking in
Chicago, legions of undead walk the streets to vote for Democrats every
Election Day. We learned our lesson back in 1960, the hard way: if we
don't win big, they will steal it from us.
21 Posted on 10/25/2000 00:02:59 PDT by Bryan
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39f65c7f25ff.htm
***
Seymour Hersh, in the book "The dark side of Camelot" has effectively
demonstrated, that the Kennedy presidency came about as the result of
vote fraud.
***
Kennedy won the general election, narrowly defeating the Republican
candidate, Vice President Richard M. Nixon, by a margin of 118,550 out of
some 70 million votes cast. Many observers, then and since, believed vote
fraud contributed to Kennedy's victory, especially in the critical state of
Illinois, where Joe Kennedy enlisted the help of the ever-powerful Richard J.
Daley, mayor of Chicago.
http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/5/0,5716,46135+3,00.html
***
"Daley Delivery? The 1960 presidential contest between Democrat John
F. Kennedy and Republican Richard M. Nixon also raised the specter
of vote fraud in the key states of Illinois (27 electoral votes) and Texas
(24 votes), both of which JFK is said to have narrowly won. Kennedy
bested Nixon in the nationwide popular vote by a razor-thin margin of
118,574 (out of more than 68.8 million cast). In the all-important
Electoral College, he received 303 votes to Nixon's 219, with 269
required to win. Had Nixon carried both Illinois and Texas, he would
have eked out a 270-vote Electoral College victory. Sabato and
Simpson write, "Strong suspicions exist that the Illinois electoral votes
were stolen for Kennedy by Mayor Richard J. Daley, who late on
election night magically produced just enough of a massive margin in
Chicago to overcome Nixon's large lead in the rest of the state." That
319,000-vote advantage in Chicago enabled Kennedy to win statewide
by a vote of 8,858 out of more than 4.7 million cast. Likewise, in Texas
"substantial voter fraud may well have occurred, though it is impossible
to say whether fraud accounted for Kennedy's entire 46,242-vote
majority out of over 2.3 million votes cast."
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1996/vo12no21/vo12no21_vote.ht
m
***

The Daley Machine is still alive and well under the control of
Daley's son.

Oh, I forgot to mention Philadelphia:
"In Philadelphia, I understand, the numbers are laughable. The population is
less than 1.3 million and there are 1 million registered voters, which implies
there are almost no children and all the adults are civic-minded. The turnout
was 70% on November 7, with some black precincts reporting 100%
turnout...The explanation I get from Republicans who live there is that there
are so few Republicans in the black community that all the precinct
workers are Democrats, which makes it easy for voting "irregularities" to
appear. I�ve spoken to a few black political leaders I know who tell me they
are not surprised, that "irregularities" may occur whenever one party is so
concentrated in an election district. It�s hard for them to argue with these
numbers."
http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/12-06-00.html

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