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In a message dated 12/12/2000 3:33:56 AM Mountain
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< But that's NOT what he thinks or knows. He knows he lost.
EVERYONE knows he lost. Let's cut the B.S. If those 12,000
ballots ever get counted, George W. Bush is the loser and
everyone with an I.Q. of over 70 knows it. >>
Everyone with an I.Q. over 70 should realize that the attempt
to cherry pick the undervote from three (3) heavy Democrat
counties is a purposeful attempt at skewing the national
error rate average to favor Gore.
The above quoted post by "Michael so and so" is a joke,
and rather than waste time addressing it individually, I will
simply cut and paste the comments I wrote (for a different
list) on this subject two weeks ago.
Incidentally, CNN has a county by county breakdown of undervotes.
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Sometime two weeks ago Tsadowq wrote:
That brings up another issue. Why is nobody talking
about the fact that there is a NATIONAL UNDERVOTE,
and that GORE's cherry picking tactics would seriously
and purposely SKEW the NATIONAL UNDERVOTE?
The undervotes are the votes rejected -- for one reason or
another -- from the vote counting machines. An unchallenged
1974 Florida appellate court ruling stated that "mere confusion
does not amount to an impediment to the voters' free choice if
reasonable time and study will sort out."
The Illinois decision (which was improperly represented to
the Florida Supreme Court by Gore attorney David Boies),
added that voters who fail to properly follow instructions,
"disenfranchise themselves."
Overlooking the fact that confused voters disenfranchise
THEMSELVES, we should not ALSO overlook the very
large parts of the mathematics behind the machine tallies:
1) Unbiased machines reject votes without prejudice
of race, creed, or political intention.
2) Said undervotes are part of a NATIONAL error rate,
sometimes MORE Republican ballots are tossed out,
sometimes MORE Democrat ballots are tossed out.
The idea is that NATIONALLY, the ERRORS will
BALANCE OUT because the machines are not being
BIASED, the machines only rejecting unreadable votes.
With these facts in mind, it is very clear that the "cherry picking"
of votes from DEMOCRAT HEAVY DISTRICTS would OBVIOUSLY
SKEW this NATIONAL ERROR RATE in Gore's favor.
Does the GORE camp seriously think that we are unaware of this?
And speaking of election FRAUD...where is DALEY?
The MINUTE that fraud was mentioned DALEY
disappeared from the GORE cheerleading team.
And with good reason....Daley's father was a well
known suspect in voter fraud dating back 30 years.
Some people say that Gore INVENTED the Internet.
Other people say that Daley's Dad INVENTED vote fraud.
At any rate, I believe that this entire election is more
Hegelian Dialect, with the possible synthesis being
any one or all of the following:
1) A national and universal voting system that would be
labeled "tamper/fraud" proof. How? That is easy. How
about NEW national voting systems which ONLY accept
votes from citizens with a National I.D. card?
2) To wipe out the Electoral College. Think about this, C-SPAN
live for the classroom is in MANY SCHOOLS. I watched a
CNN piece on what elementary and intermediate school
children think of the election. Afterall, they feel that they
are very informed after watching the spin. The end result?
The majority of the kids interviewed CONFIRMED the ideas
expressed in #1 and #2. These kids were literally parroting
the exact statements. "We need national voting systems"
and "We need to destroy the Electoral College, it is not fair."
We all know that the Electoral College is the Constitutional part
of the Republic. Without the Electoral College, the presidential
candidates would only need to carry California, New York, Texas
and Florida, in order to win.
Yes, the masses in these four states would
be enough to win the POPULAR VOTE.
Why would a candidate even BOTHER
to campaign in the other 46 states?
In any case, this is clearly an issue of States Rights. The
States of the Union are guaranteed Equal Representation.
Which makes me wonder...
Why aren't people from states OTHER than Florida
SUING for EQUAL REPRESENTATION?
Afterall, if we are going to count by hand all the UNDERVOTES
of cherry picked DEMOCRATIC counties, this unequivocally
makes the VOTES in FLORIDA of more VALUE than those
UNDERVOTES in ALL THE OTHER STATES. The undervote
in all other states was not hand counted, it was THROWN OUT.
The fact is that if we are going to count by hand the
UNDERVOTES in Florida, those UNDERVOTES are
part of a NATIONAL AVERAGE and ERROR rate.
In order to avoid skewing that national error rate, we must
either DISCARD ALL undervotes, or we must COUNT ALL
undervotes (approximately 1.2 to 1.8 million nationwide).
ANY other solution invites the other 49 states
to SUE for EQUAL REPRESENTATION.
(The current equal representation argument before the
courts is for equal representation for all COUNTIES in
Florida State only.)
NOBODY is addressing the equal representation for
STATES as of yet. To my own delight, the decision
handed down by Judge SAULS mentioned this problem
area, but nobody seems to have picked up on it...yet.
(I AM ADDING HERE, that since the time of this writing,
JUSTICE SCALIA is the only other person who has
mentioned this fact since Judge Sauls.)
If the Dimplecrats are somehow successful in getting
the dimpled ballots validated, I am sure that SOMEONE
will pick this issue up and RUN with it...SUING for their
OWN STATE to be EQUALLY REPRESENTED by
counting THEIR STATE's undervotes as well.
Count ALL the UNDERVOTES NATIONWIDE or forget it.
Back to the Hegelian Dialect's Synthesis....
3) How about enough of a "constitutional crisis" to start
America in the direction of dividing the nation into the
ten (10) FEMA sectors?
We all know that FEMA's version of America exists, and
it would be terribly convenient if the sheople were the ones
who cried out with one voice to say, "WE want you to divide
the nation in this manner." That is the way the INSIDERS
love to work...get the people to parrot the desired outcome.
Make the sheople think it is THEIR idea...
We all know that both BUSH and GORE are Insiders
and that these two ultimately serve the same agenda.
The Capitalists want America in place; they enjoy the
cash flow. That cash flow is part of the reason why
it is so hard to understand the love/hate relationship
the Communists have with Amaruca/America.
The Commies love the fact that they can use this country
as a cash cow to fund their objectives in poorer nations,
but they hate this country because we are the thesis
and they are the antithesis.
Marx used Hegel's ideas, turning the dialect "upside down"...
and we are now seeing that this election is the SYNTHESIS...
the EFFECT of melding the thesis and antithesis.
You notice that we keep hearing about DEMOCRACY...
The Dimplecrats -- as if all speaking from the directives given by
an unseen UNI-MIND -- have been ubiquitously spinning the same
line, "Today, our democracy has suffered terrible damage, etc."
Well -- of course THEIR democracy has suffered!!!
They have FAILED thus far to get the American sheople to
fall in line with the projected synthesis. We are rejecting the
idea of a wiping out the Electoral College in preference for
the POPULAR VOTE winner.
The popular vote winner does NOT MATTER in a
Constitutional Republic. It does however, matter
in a DEMOCRACY. This is why the Dimplecrats
can say "OUR democracy has suffered terrible
damage." THEIR democracy IS suffering!
This is just like Janet Reno, years ago, saying that
"the cult members burned down the WACO bunker."
The statement is actually TRUE.
But what (s)he didn't mention, is that the cult members
who started the fire were the BATF and FBI groupies.
The same may be said of the Democrat Socialists
who are moaning about the heavy blow to THEIR
democracy. THEIR democracy IS SUFFERING.
We should also acknowledge that not all Democrats
are Fabian Socialists and closet Communists.
There are definately Democrat simpletons who are just
voting the party line. Maybe they are unaware that the
Democratic party leans toward Socialism; or maybe
they have confused the democratic voting process
with the word "democracy." The saddest observation,
is that these people truly don't know the difference.
These simpletons might not know that GORE made his
political name by picking on BIG TOBACCO; meanwhile
he himself farmed TOBACCO on his Tennessee farm.
They might not be aware that Gore has flip-flopped on his
political stances against ABORTION and GUN CONTROL.
It was his original fight against these issues that initially
got him elected as a "moderate" Democrat Congressman
in Tennessee.
(Being that Gore failed to carry his OWN STATE, we
remain fairly sure that the citizens of Tennessee are
very much aware of these facts.)
The Democratic simpletons might not be aware of
the ties between the GORE family and well known
Communist Armand Hammer of Occidental Petroleum.
They might not be aware that Albert Gore Sr. named his son
Albert Armand after his Communist buddy, Armand Hammer.
They might not be aware that Armand Hammer purchased the
farm where the GORE family currently resides. This parcel of
land is rich in Zinc. Armand Hammer SURELY knew this
BEFORE he sold the land to GORE for a ridiculous price.
Today, GORE leases the mineral rights from
this property BACK TO Occidental Petroleum.
Why would Armand Hammer purchase a property
rich in Zinc, only to sell it to the GORE family and
then LEASE IT BACK FROM THEM?
The nonsense of this scheme hints at the fact that this is
a convenient way for GORE to receive COMMUNIST cash.
Of course, if GORE needs more money, he can always
pick up a quick $100,000 off of Buddhist Monks who
have taken a vow of poverty...
Don't ALL Buddhist Monks (who have taken
the vow of poverty) carry around $100,000 to
donate to Democratic presidential candidates?
These type of payments were, (and still are) their way of
legalizing Communist payoffs from Russia and Red China.
Lastly, it is necessary to straighten out a few statements
put out there by the DIMPLECRAT spin doctors. We should
also take a minute to make note of the GORE MYTHOLOGY
that a voter would have to believe -- in order to keep up the
laughable party line of, "Every vote counts."
The last week of RULINGS against GORE have proven
the following to be MYTHS that were started by GORE
operatives or constituents.
Gore MYTH #1: Supposedly illegal "butterfly ballots"
Gore MYTH #2: Chads blocked stylus hole causing DIMPLES
Gore MYTH #3 Cheney's TEXAS residence "problem"
Gore MYTH #4 Voter fraud
Gore MYTH #5 Voter (racial) intimidation
While these CLAIMS were recently proven to be MYTHS in
a court of LAW, there are yet other claims now surfacing
by those who oppose BUSH and his constituents.
The dirty politics of some Dimplecrats have worked
hard at painting BUSH supporters as intolerant bigots
and violent racists. These people taunt with statements
very similar to the following:
"Didn't you ever notice that all the states that BUSH
won are full of KKK members...or dragging black men
to death, or beating up homosexuals and leaving them
for dead?"
Let's compare the following election FACTS to another
set of FACTS compiled by Professor Joseph Olson of
the Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul.
Gore took 1/3 of the States, Bush took 2/3.
The counties of these states break down as follows.
Counties won by Gore: 677
Counties won by Bush: 2,434
Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million
Population of counties won by Bush: 143 million
These first statistics point out the NEED for an
ELECTORAL COLLEGE in order for EQUAL
REPRESENTATION of all STATES.
We now include these additional FACTS
compiled by Professor Joseph Olson.
Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2
Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush: 2.1
Interpolating the data indicates that the counties won by GORE
are FAR MORE VIOLENT than the counties won by BUSH.
That is the fact of the matter.
Does this mean that ALL of Gore's supporters are
more violent than Bush supporters? Not exactly.
What it means is that the MAJORITY of Gore's supporters
come from densely populated areas where inner-city crime
and people most likely to vote for FEDERAL HAND OUTS
are predominantly found.
With much more to say, I will stop short here.
So who will get the office?
I believe that BUSH will ultimately be proclaimed the
victor. A friend of mine recently got back from a vacation...
Switzerland, France, etc. She told me that over there,
the election is ALREADY OVER. She said that Europe
as a whole is calling BUSH the PRESIDENT already!
Why is Europe's perception a factor?
When BUSH Sr. ran against CLINTON, the Rocky Mountain
News here in Colorado featured an article which detailed how
Clinton's bloodline shares common ancestry with Prince Charles.
But this time the BUSH dynasty has more royal blood behind
them; BUSH Jr.'s pedigree greatly benefited from his mother -
the blue blooded Barbara....and the candidate with more royal
blood has almost always won the presidential election.
Those of you who have seen our "ATLANTIS"
documentary video know why this is important.
So, if I had to call it, I would call it for BUSH.
GORE/BOIES said that they would accept
the decision of the Florida Supreme Court.
My bet is that they won't. It is very likely that the decision
by the Florida Supreme Court will be made public BEFORE
the verdict from Seminole and Martin Counties is rendered.
This means that GORE will still think he stands a chance,
and he will therefore not concede until the verdict is in from
the private lawsuits in these last two counties. The funny
thing here, is that just this morning, more lawsuits were filed...
If BUSH ends up loosing, it means that we are one step closer
to the COMMUNISTS having completed their gradual takeover
of this country by means of the Socialist/Democratic platform.
Will they truly "bury us" without "ever having fired a shot?"
Tsadowq
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