Find this difficult to believe - and we are told water costs more than
oil?   Well, I remember King Faisal before he was murdered, said
Americans paid more for a pepsi than they did same amount of oil.   Why
not?

Oil is old hat; big money boys are really getting out of in going into
the solar age......someday that water in Holy Land if it is not already,
will be worth more than the oil - cannot drink that black stuff.

So anyway, if we have peace in the middle east now, what do we do when
hey have war, as I sit herre using my new solar operated calculator, new
solar powered battery recharger, new solar powered heater in house I see
across the street - too bad I just bought a new a/c with gas furnace,
and I see now all kinds of things, like toys being used and maintained
by solar energy?

Americans sick of being gouged to death by thir world countries where
the thieves and Clinton and his henchmen have much in common.

Smart Money is going into Solar Energy and New Energy.......and I also
like my batteries being recharged by solar energy........

New Amtraks go 150 mph now - and this is the re if they can find someone
sober enough to drive the things without wrecking.


Someday arab leaders will know the value of a good glass of artesian
well water.....cold, with ice cubes....prefer that on a hot day to a
drink of that horrible black stuff that causes cancer anway.   And we
have corn oil, soy oil, and all thdifferent oils and we have
wheat......or at least we did have or did Kissinger corner market on
that too

Viva American Farmers and Solar Power to the People and we will have
peace in Holy Land.........so now they got to figure out, how to corner
market on the sun?

Trade water for oil?    Hell No.......I can always get a a
horse....

Saba



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                      OIL AND PETRODOLLARS

MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 12/12:
   OIL is the big prize of the Middle East.  Petro Dollars flow from it.  The
American economy floats on what remains an amazingly cheap and huge supply of
it.  After all, even now, oil that is pumped in the Middle East, shipped around
the world, refined, heavily taxed, and trucked to gasoline stations, continues
to cost Americans not much more than a gallon of bottled water!  No wonder the
Western countries prefer to pump Arab and third-world oil for their current needs
rather than their own.
   The Arab people benefit little from their oil; wile the Arab oil families,
the Gulf Arab "client regimes" literally bank on it.  The lesson of the 70s was
learned when shortly after King Feisal attempted an oil embargo he was assassinated.
 The regimes maintain themselves in power, and in the money, by using the huge
wealth provided by the black gold to purchase everything in sight -- a steady
supply of whores, both sexual and political; journalists; organizations; politicians;
publications.
   In recent years since the Gulf War the Saudis have in fact been "convinced"
to increase the role of Western oil companies, not to mention the American military
and CIA, in the affairs of "the Kingdom".
   And to this mix that it is Western banks that soak up the recycled petro dollars,
and Western arms merchants who cash in for their yearly multi-billions.
   The British recognized the great importance of the coming oil era way back
in the days of Lawrence and Allenby.  The Americans took control of the region
after World War II because of it.  Israel was at first a questionable addition
to this mix, partly accounting for Secretary of State George Marshall's vehement
opposition to U.S. support for its creation, which in fact came very close to
bringing about his resignation.  But today, thanks to the divisions and weaknesses
of the Arab world, caused by the very oil regimes the West created and maintains,
Israel is today America's closest partner in perpetuating these "client regimes"
and maintaining the status quo.



                IRAN, LIBYA, OIL COMPANIES HOPE FOR GOP WIN


                         By John K. Cooley

                 A T H E N S, Greece, Dec. 11, ABC News � Middle East
                 oil producers Iran and Libya, still under U.S.
                 sanctions, and American oil companies
                 prevented from working there by those
                 sanctions hope fervently for a Bush-Cheney
                 victory in the tortuous U.S. presidential election
                 process.
                      Oil industry and government sources in the Middle
                 East believe that an administration headed by Republican
                 George W. Bush and his running mate, Dick Cheney,
                 would be able to stabilize world oil prices, and also might
                 end remaining oil sanctions against both Iran and Libya.
                      �If Bush wins,� Muhammad-Javad Larajani, a former
                 Iranian diplomat, told reporters in Tehran last week, �it
                 will be certain that oil companies will have more liberty to
                 conclude contracts with Iran.�
                      �It is preferable for us, and it is possible that oil
                 sanctions against Iran will be lifted,� said Larajani, who
                 has conducted past negotiations with the United States
                 and is close to Iran�s supreme spiritual leader, Ayatollah
                 Ali Khamenei.

                              Resumption of Relations?

                 Both Bush and Cheney have worked in the oil industry.
                 Cheney was the CEO of Halliburton Oil Services and has
                 a network of senior contacts in the Middle East. Earlier
                 this year, he called on the Clinton administration to allow
                 American oil companies to resume business in Iran by
                 ending sanctions.
                      Larajani said Bush and Cheney, if sworn in as
                 president and vice president, could bring a �small change
                 in U.S. policies� in the Middle East because the
                 Democrats are �much closer to the Zionist lobby� than the
                 Republicans.
                      Larajani said Tehran could re-establish diplomatic
                 relations with Washington, which were broken off in April
                 1980 after the November 1979 seizure of the U.S.
                 Embassy in Tehran, as soon as �the U.S. government
                 takes sufficient distance from Israel.�
                      Iran�s deputy oil minister, Hossein
                 Kazempour-Ardebili, predicted the U.S. oil sanctions
                 would be lifted within the next year.
                      �Considering mounting pressures on the U.S.
                 administration by American oil firms, we expect
                 Washington to lift sanctions against Iran in the next 12
                 months,� he said.
                      �Even a Democratic administration will be under
                 tremendous pressure to lift sanctions. Considering
                 Republican election statements, we expect sanctions not
                 to be renewed in 2001,� Kazempour-Ardeebili said.

                             Willing to Open Dialogue

                 In Washington, State Department spokesman Philip
                 Reeker declined to predict the future of U.S.-Iran
                 relations.
                      He reiterated longstanding U.S. concerns about Iran�s
                 weapons program and involvement in terrorism. He also
                 noted U.S. willingness to open a dialogue with Iran.
                      The United States eased sanctions on some Iranian
                 goods earlier this year.
                      In a telephone interview with ABCNEWS, a veteran
                 U.S. oil executive in Texas insisted that a Bush-Cheney
                 victory would bring an end to oil sanctions. �Virtually
                 everyone in senior places who really understands the
                 Middle East has been working for this,� said the
                 executive, who asked not to be identified.
                      He added that after a Republican victory, �OPEC
                 members will be able to work with us� to achieve a
                 long-sought lower and stable �marker� or yardstick price
                 for crude oil at levels of around $23 or even $22 per
                 barrel. At present, Arabian Light, North Sea, West Texas
                 and most other crude oil varieties are fluctuating around
                 and above $30 per barrel.
                      The same oil executive said Ahmed Zaki Yamani, a
                 former Saudi oil minister who now heads an energy
                 consultancy in London, is spending the annual Ramadan
                 fast month in the holy city of Mecca.
                      There Yamani is believed to be advising 76-year-old
                 Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, who effectively runs the
                 Saudi monarchy because of the the protracted illness of
                 King Fahd, on long-term policies for the oil-rich kingdom.

                          Reaching Out to U.S. Oil Companies

                 President Clinton has said the sanctions against Iran
                 remain in force because of the country�s support for
                 terrorism and its acquisition of missiles and other weapons
                 of mass destruction. The measures constitute a unilateral
                 U.S. trade embargo.
                      Then-President Ronald Reagan ordered U.S. oil firms
                 to quit Libya in 1986, mainly because of the terrorism
                 issue, after U.S. Air Force planes carried out earlier
                 reprisal bombings of Libya for terrorist bombings in
                 Berlin.
                      However, Libya�s national oil company did not
                 confiscate U.S. oil company assets in Libya. It has
                 continued to negotiate with the firms about possible future
                 return to their formerly lucrative contracts and projects
                 there.
                      Libya safeguarded the American oil assets even after
                 the imposition in the early 1990s of new U.N. and U.S.
                 sanctions meant to force the extradition of two Libyan
                 suspects in the December 1988 bombing of Pan Am
                 Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. The two men were
                 extradited and are now on trial before a Scottish court in
                 the Netherlands, resulting in an easing but not a total
                 relaxation of sanctions.
                      In a gesture toward the United States, Iran in 1985
                 signed a $1 billion contract with the American corporation
                 Conoco to develop two big offshore oilfields in the
                 Persian Gulf. Although the Clinton White House initially
                 favored the deal, Conoco was forced by the sanctions
                 legislation to cancel it. The French company TotalFina
                 moved in instead, and signed a $600 million deal with Iran
                 to carry out the same work.
                      Firms such as TotalFina, Italy�s ENI and Royal
                 Dutch/Shell defied U.S. legislation threatening action
                 against non-American firms doing business with Libya and
                 Iran and have signed major new deals with fresh foreign
                 investment.
                      The five-year term of the sanctions expires in August
                 2001.
                      In October, Chevron Oil�s vice chairman, Richard
                 Matzke, said that while lifting of sanctions on Iran was not
                 imminent, he felt that �we are an awful lot closer than we
                 were a few years ago.�






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