-Caveat Lector-
Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine,
I have made comments below to correct your blatant errors on the subject of David
Icke, Stewart Swerdlow and Laurence Gardner. Your text is marked DR, my response is
marked OG.
Best, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
----- Original Message -----
From: nexusmagazine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 1:01 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Laurence Gardner-again
> >Dear C.
> >
> >I have no dislike of Lawrence Gardner, as I dont know him personally, but
> >I know Stewart Swerdlow, and he has seen Gardner doing shapeshifting, as
> >revealed by David Icke in "The Biggest Secret."
> >
> >Best, Ole Gerstrom
>
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> DR: Let's get this correct Ole. Swerdlow "claims" to have "suddenly
> remembered" seeing Gardner shapeshift.
OG: Swerdlow certainly did not "suddenly remember." He told David Icke that "He has
never named names before, but has now chosen to talk."
DR:>He only remembered this after David Icke publicly posted a sign on his
> website asking for anyone with any dirt on Laurence Gardner to step forth.>>
OG: Icke did not ask for dirt. He wrote: "If Sir Laurence Gardner has any reply to what
Stewart Swerdlow is saying, please send it to this website and I will make sure that
every word is printed with equal prominence." But he never got an answwer.
DR: Swerdlow is NOT considered as genuine by other Montauk survivors. He is
> considered a 'johnny come lately' seeking to cash in on the whole affair.
OG: This is a derogatory statement of a type usually found in the yellow press.
Have you ever considered lowering the price of Nexus, or is it simply a
money machine?
>
DR:> I've met Swerdlow, and I've met Gardner. I do not believe the claims of
> Swerdlow. He claims that he witnessed Gardner cutting up and eating
> babies, years before Gardner's passport shows he even entered the USA. I
> suppose Gardner popped out his wings and flew over the Atlantic so that
> no records would reveal his feasting?
>
OG: Swerdlow did not claim that "he witnessed Gardner cutting up and eating
babies," he stated that he witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals
at the Montauk mind control centre on Long Island, New York, in which
Sir Laurence Gardner played a major role.
Regarding the missing stamps in Gardners passport, I would say that is no proof
whatsoever. Montauk was run by the US Government/Military, and of course
overseas participants would be flown in by military planes and not going through
customs and immigrations.
DR: Give me a break!
OG: By all means.
>
DR: Icke started the anti-Gardner crusade because he initially assumed
> Gardner was knighted by the British Royal Family (and we all know that
> they are reptiles according to Icke).
> Icke, as usual, failed to do the most basic checking, and got it wrong!
> Rather than admit wrongness, he casts around for traumatised mind control
> victims, upon whose dubious testimony, he smear Gardner and his work.
>
> Why does Icke not challenge Gardner on the research points, instead of
> going for the character smear angle?
OG: Icke did not smear. Let me repeat, Icke wrote: "If Sir Laurence Gardner has any
reply to what
Stewart Swerdlow is saying, please send it to this website and I will make sure that
every word is printed with equal prominence."
>
DR: Gardner's research shows the continuity of a bloodline from ancient royal
powerbrokers, through biblical times to the present. Gardner differs
from Icke on the issue of Jesus.
Icke maintains that Jesus Christ is a myth, whereas Gardner finds a
geneaological path through these families to the present time.
OG: Yes, but did Gardner really find this path. Did he not base his works
on Masonic and similar sources?
>
DR:> After seeing how Icke does his research (notice even his key
> co-researchers left Icke in disgust) and seeing how Gardner does his
> research, my money is on Gardner's authenticity and integrity any day.
>
OG: There was no key-researcher leaving Icke in disgust.
DR: And Ole, every single mind control victim I have interviewed has told me
> that one should NEVER take as gospel what they remember. Cathy O'Brien
> was emphatic when she said to me, that the recollections of mind-control
> victims can not be taken as 100 per cent accurate.
> Swerdlow is included in that category, as is Arizona Wilder, the two
> witnesses for the prosecution of Laurence Gardner as incited by David
> Icke!
OG: Dear Duncan, neither do I take as gospel what a magazine editor comes up with!
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>
> Duncan
>
>
> Duncan M. Roads
> Editor, NEXUS Magazine
> PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia
> Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381
> http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259
>
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