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In a message dated 1/7/01 1:12:56 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<< Why is sex the only thing that strikes you as immoral? In the America of
older times, whole families of children were taken in by neighbors if their
parents died. Widows received food, fuel and other help from neighbors if it
was needed. The old were kept in the homes and maintained; so were the
mentally and physically afflicted. Hungry people were given food. Sick
people were helped and treated by neighbors and doctors who could only hope
for remuneration. Neighbors helped each other with the plowing, the planting
and the harvesting. If a woman died in childbirth and the baby lived, a
neighbor woman might volunteer to nurse the child along with her own. In
other words, people cared for and helped people. That is the goodness that
DeTocqueville was talking about. It was unlikely that he spent his time
dwelling on the possibility that women were having abortions or that there
was homosexuality loose in the land. In this day, when neighbors are only
concerned about controlling the actions of their neighbors and trying to
amass the most "stuff," there is every possibility that DeTocqueville would
believe that "goodness" has been lost. >>
You've made some very good observations and comments here. Things were very
different before WWII. Government wasn't involved in every aspect of our
lives. People lived together as real neighbors that cared for each other.
They depended on each other, not the Mommy-Daddy government we have today.
The government didn't regulate everything and give tax advantages to
corporate (rich) interests. Taxes were a very small part of a person's
income, then the "Do-gooders" of the Democratic Party changed things to help
the poor, the minorities, the infirm, the people who could not control their
sexual urges or their urges that made them rape, kill, murder, steal ...
after all these people weren't bad people and drunks weren't drunks by
choice, an illness made them drink ... they were "sick" not irresponsible
(and the Republicans went along with it). Few people worked for massive
corporations -- they worked at jobs where the business was owned by local
people -- they didn't buy groceries in a Supermarket, they bought them at the
Mom & Pop grocery store. They didn't go out and buy a Japanese or German
car, they bought an American car made by an American, their neighbors. Fact
is nearly everything they bought was made in America. Neighborhoods stayed
together, people lived in the same house most of their life rather than being
moved all over the country by the Corporation for which they work. Then the
Republicans got in office and used their influence to give even more power to
corporate interests in the name of Americanism and proceeded to set the stage
for moving businesses from a local level to a national level resulting in
mega-business and an end to the neighborhood economy (and the Democrats
helped pass these measures). All this time both parties passed tens of
thousands of laws and regulations to control people who couldn't control
themselves and to supposedly help people who couldn't help themselves. And,
We the People voted for all these politicians who changed life in America to
what it is today until our culture no longer exists. We brought this shitty
way of life on ourselves by not being wary of government -- now only an
armed revolution will end the relationship between government and
Corporations. Any thing less than armed resistance will be futile because
those that have the power aren't going to give it up without a fight. It's
not about sex, it's about common decency, but common decency has been
redefined by those that make the laws and define what is taught in schools so
that now there is not any common decency even at the highest levels of
government, in once respected teaching positions and certainly all respect
for police has also been mitigated. It's not about sex, nor morality --
we've lost common courtesy and have only ourselves to blame ... Conspiracy
maybe had something to do with it, but selfishness and not bothering to care
about the important things in life are the real causes. If decent men and
women had cared enough about this country and their children -- things would
not be this way, but if you do nothing, the corrupt individuals will define
government and make it what it is today -- a powerful Statist organization
that cares not for the people that pay the bills.
Regards,
Bob Stokes
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