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From: "PM Kansan1225" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: 09 January 2001 15:04
Subject: [CTRL] To c @ BOOHOO, Re: LSD


hi kansan

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>       A lot of people claim "enlightenment" after using LSD.

some people get stuck in the initial use of psychedelics and believe they
are enlightened. but it is no surprise- first few times it can be a
stunning, shattering experience. and that is as far as they go with it. they
have a glimpse of psychedelica- but that is all. continued use however, with
the correct intellectual/ spiritual grounding/ curiosity/ openheadedness can
be a gateway.... an enabl;er.

 >However, such
> powerful chemicals scar the brain and lead to damage in the long run.

yeah sure, but you can say the same with any substance taken by the body-
excessive, chronic use of any food or drug will damage the body.

 >The
> same is true of Prozac and similar concoctions linked to the "random" mass
> killers.

but you have to seperate completely psychedelics from barbiturates and
anti-depressents and all hypnotics like alcohol and also the opiates.  most
of these suppresive type drugs' effects are largely repeatable in a wide
range of humans- and consistant in the individual (( i know the apparent
violent reactions surrounding prozac- that seem inconsistent with what i am
saying, and i realise there is well founded suspicion that it is a trojan
drug)- but psychedelics are too uncontrollable and dangerously inconsistent-
hence the numorous guidlines about use- set and setting etc.
 the cia, as you are aware, tried very unsuccessfully to exploit the drug in
the 50s and ended up deciding that it could only be used to disrupt
communities- they were trying to use it to subdue, but it just doesn't work.



>
>       A very important link in the "Illuminati"-type chain was the Order
of
> Assassins of the Old Man of the Mountain.  They used hashish in their mind
> control regime.

yup, i think both of the words hashish and assasin have the same origin(?)
...but that was hashish allied to a huge big eden like garden! it was more
complex than just using a drug to control anyone- the belief system allowed
the 'trick' to be played.... a society where the possiblity of going to
paradise was well within reach, not in a spiritual way- but in actual fact.
today we have diveristy of belief - lsd is powerrfully affected by the
beliefs and state of mind and context of the consumption.
but i realise- with leary being in league with the cia- it looks like he was
trying exactly that- to induce a collective, uniform movement, a common
context for the consumption- a common dogma being preached to the
semi-psychedelicised followers.
but it messed up- the drug is too freakydeaky to be used in mind control en
masse- the results are too unrepeatable to be true.
as i said in response to your first posting about lsd- i agree that the
adverts for an apparent counter-culture (clandestinely controlled) using the
beatles and leary et al is more arguable than not!
but i think that it backfired on them- as many people who were divertetd by
the counter-culture movements were balanced by the amount of people who
suddenly saw what the hell was going on through their own use of acid.


>
>     Narcotics

yes, true, narcotics are suppresive and cripple whole communities- no doubt
about that, but i am presuming you are not lumping narcotics and psychedlics
in the same bag?


 and hallucinogenic drugs have been very important to the
> Conspirators,

so, i am guessing that- like above- you think that psychomimetics and
psychedelics (very few drugs are hallucinogenic in the true sense) diverted
people's attention from what was going on really? i don't think so- as i
said above about that as many were diverted- as many were awakened.

 even before the days of Pythia, the drugged priestess of Apollo
> at Delphi, and even more so today when Bush's Cocaine Importers
Association
> (CIA) is running New Atlantis and the world.


yes- cocaine/ heroin cocktail is the evil up and down hedonistic paradise
(and, baby, it's where the money is)
the CLuM organisation knows what it is doing- in the 80s the drug war in
america meant that a lot of people began using cocaine rather than hash
because of the length of time the respective drugs would remain in the body-
it was much safer to use coke for that specific reason. and coke got so dam
cheap because of the amount that was being imported. it is sad- hash users
don't need to use a downer to get up on the hash again- the drug does what
you want (arguable?)... but the point with coke is that you can only get
that super rise once a day- unless you use heroin to being you back down-
then the coke will work again. the downs also with coke are extremely rough-
again, the non- recreational use of the heroin comes into play as well as
the ability to get back up again.
my point being that you couldn't have designed a better pairing of
destructive drugs to inflict on your country- and it is undeniable that this
situation has been , at the very least, aggravated by the laws surrounding
drugs in the states.

repeating myself a bit, sorry, i just think that the CLuMs made a big
fucking mistake when they encouraged everyone to turn on.... cause people
did in unexpected ways- made the variables for action even more variable.

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