-Caveat Lector-

Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine,

Thanks for your reply. It indicates, that you might be interested in the truth of the 
matter.

Allow me to comment:

DR:<<1)  Swerdlow did 'suddenly remember' - read his own words if you don't
> believe me.  He was watching a video of Laurene at the NEXUS Conference,
> when he realised he 'had seen Gardner before.>>

OG: Yes, he realised he 'had seen Gardner before'. Here follows the very words of
Swerdlow:

<<It wasn't until years later that I saw a picture of Gardner and I realised it was 
him.
It was quite a shock to me that here was this man who performed heinous ceremonies
with me and there he was on this video I  was watching, which, by the way, was made
by Duncan Roads (a Nexus video). >>

DR:<<2)  Icke DID smear Gardner - read his own words if you don't believe me.
Also, watch any of Icke's video presentations that year.  You will even
hear him allege that Zecharia Sitchin is a shape-shifting reptilian alien.>>

OG: Now you are smearing Icke, claiming that Ickes smeared, without giving
any evidence, which you have had ample time to present. And yes, Icke
has alleged that Zecharia Sitchin is a shape-shifter.

DR:<<3)  Ick DID ask for dirt on Gardner - read his own words if you dont
> believe me.>>

OG: Again you are throwing dirt with no evidence. And here again are the words of
David Icke: "If Sir Laurence Gardner has any reply to what  Stewart Swerdlow
is saying, please send it to this website and I will make sure that  every word
is printed with equal prominence." Icke received no reply.

DR:<<4)  Icke's key researcher DID leave in disgust.  I refer to Ivan Fraser>>

OG: This is contrary to the words of David Icke.

OG: However, more interesting, you did not answer this question:

<<OG: Yes, but did Gardner really find this path. Did he not base his works
on Masonic and similar sources?>>

Best, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark



----- Original Message -----
From: nexusmagazine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Sv: [CTRL] Laurence Gardner-again


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> >Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine,
> >
> >I have made comments below to correct your blatant errors on the subject
> >of David Icke, Stewart Swerdlow and Laurence Gardner. Your text is marked
> >DR, my response is marked OG.
> >
> >Best, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
>
>
> Dear Ole,
>
> I read through your 'corrections' and thought 'why even bother' trying to
> rationalise with such a blind believer?
>
>
> 1)  Swerdlow did 'suddenly remember' - read his own words if you don't
> believe me.  He was watching a video of Laurene at the NEXUS Conference,
> when he realised he 'had seen Gardner before.
>
> 2)  Icke DID smear Gardner - read his own words if you don't believe me.
> Also, watch any of Icke's video presentations that year.  You will even
> hear him allege that Zecharia Sitchin is a shape-shifting reptilian alien.
>
> 3)  Ick DID ask for dirt on Gardner - read his own words if you dont
> believe me.
>
> 4)  Icke's key researcher DID leave in disgust.  I refer to Ivan Fraser.
>
>
> You are obviously not worried about letting the truth get in the way of
> your beliefs about Icke!
>
> And by the way, you did not respond to being corrected when you stated
> that "NEXUS banished Icke from its pages".
>
> I repeat, NEXUS has never banished Icke from its pages, because it has
> never had Icke in its pages!  We were telling the world most of what Icke
> published years before Icke ever heard of any of this.
>
> You are just so inaccurate with your statements that I wonder why I even
> bother trying to correct someone so uninterested in truth!
>
> Duncan
>
>
> Duncan M. Roads
> Editor, NEXUS Magazine
> PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia
> Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280;   Fax:  +61 (0)7 5442 9381
> http://www.nexusmagazine.com      ICQ#62399259
>
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