----- Original Message -----
From: BB
Sent: 31 January 2001 08:56
Subject: Re: [CTRL] GUN REFRESHER COURSE

Go ahead and laugh, your logic may be sound as a pound, which
isn't worth much, nevertheless your logic is lunacy.
 
>>>>>>>>>> first: the saying "sound as a pound" refers to the weight- not the currency! (i think :))
 
>>>>>>>>>>>and if it does refer to the currency then...
 
>>>>>>>>>>>second- the british pound  has always been worth more than the american (and any other) dollar. at the momnet i think it is abut 1.6 dollars to 1 british pound.
ergo- if the pound is not worth much- then the dollar is worth less.
 

Nobody here is emoting, you can wallow in your smug disarmanent
attitude, and get round-shouldered from patting yourself on the back
because you have no protection from some moron who wants to
stick a knife in you or beat you to death

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you are (deliberately?) missing my point- i only need to defend myself against knives or beatings because that is all the small criminals use in the UK- i was not saying i don't defend myself- i am saying that i can and do- and i am equally prepared to defend against these weapons.

>>>>>>>>>>>>but in america- one trigger pull and someone is dead- too easily- it makes life too cheap.

>>>>>>>>>>again i say- i prefer to have to worry about knives and beatings- than worry about a mugger/ burglar having a gun..

 

 

, but you seem to be a
perfect citizen of a government which has convinced you that
socialism is great

>>>>>>>>>>>LOL  socialist? our government? our conservative party is right wing and our labour party is right wing- but pretends it is of the middle ground! saying the S word around them would get you a good beating probably LOL

>>>>>>>>>>>>where did ya get the idea that socialism EVER existed anywhere in the world successfully? it never has and it never will. now, fascism- that is q different story- just ask russia, china, cuba, america, britain, whoever.

 

, and to be defenseless is desirable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see above.. *yawn*

 

 

You seem delighted that "the cost and availablity of guns in the UK is prohibitive."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>yes i am delighted- i am not enamoured by the limited possibilities of gun use or their availability- the chances of death when settling a dispute with firearms is too great to be workable.

how many news stories do you see from america about arguments (on the highway, in a shop, wherever) in the most mundane situations being settled with guns?

this doesn't happen in the UK.

you know how people get angry and lash out- with very dire results, happens all the time in various circumstances. now- i am dsaying that i would prefer a sociey where the choice to pick up a gun in a temper does not exist. i prefer a society where youngs kids cannot get access to guns.

 

That is your problem which your citizens have allowed to befall yourselves.

it isn't a problem - it is a blessing.

we lost the right to bare arms some centuries ago and it is true that the motivation for this was nervousness on the part of the government about the public being armed. but it has turned out ok really.

like i said many times- if the government decide to oppress me (even more than they are doing now) and i need a gun to defend myself...well.. i may as well have a water pistol the good a real gun would do me against such an organisation.

 

It seems that the idea of being free and armed is hateful to you, so I can

>>>>>>>>>>>> no not hateful- i said to nessie and the list yesterday that i sympathise entirely with the terrible situation america is in and i see the need for lawful people to arm themselves.

i am free and unarmed- an anathema to you it seems.

 

conclude that the next time some moronic madman starts raining bombs

on your cities, you will not be calling upon us for assistance.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL  oh and if a moronic madman starts bombing YOUR cities- what good will your collection of guns do you? you think you will win against a bomber one on one? ;)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>i thin it is america that may be worrying about the erosion of the "special relationship" between america and  the UK, not the other way around.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it is YOU who needs US if you are to make your shield work. incidentally- that is some deal the americans offer the UK- they need the bases in england to make the shield work- but the shield will not protect  the UK and the UK will be a direct target for any of america's enemies LOL

>>>>>>>>>>>>>cool, uh? a very "special" relationship

 

 

Good luck.

 

>>>>>>>>> well- you need the luck, dude, considering where you live...
  
 

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