-Caveat Lector- (Here are the key comments from the CNN transcript. Maxine Waters is a Democratic Congresswomen from California who is not afraid to take on tough issues like the CIA and their complicity in the drug trade. --SW) VAN SUSTEREN: Welcome back. We're debating the war on drugs in the U.S, and where the boundaries should be drawn. Joining us again are former customs commissioner Ray Kelly, Representative Maxine Waters, former CIA Narcotics Officer Kenneth Bucchi, and crime writer Edna Buchanan. Ken, to you: exactly what did you do as a CIA narcotics officer to fight this war? BUCCHI: It's hard to be exact. I'm sure Congresswoman Waters will not like what I have to say. And I will agree with you, I want to say up front, Congresswoman. But, we basically had a complicit operation, a quid pro quo, if you will, with the drug lords of Colombia and essentially, what we did is we put the lion's share of the market in small cash of drug lords hands, and we sent up corridors with ILS systems for those drugs to flown in and then we took half of them. VAN SUSTEREN: So, actually... WATERS: See? VAN SUSTEREN : ...in bed with the drug dealers in South America. BUCCHI: Yes. Now, understand where I'm coming from. I want to back up. There're a lot of ground has been covered here, and I'm a little concerned about what it is we think we are doing right now in South America. No one in their right behind can believe for a moment that the Colombian government gives a crap about Susie and Tommy doing cocaine in America. They care about whether or not they will maintain power in that country. They maintain that power because we supply them with weapons. We supply them with weapons on the guys we want to fight drugs. But the reality is, we care more about who the drug dealer is, not that the drugs are coming here. Meaning, that drugs beget power. You derive a certain amount of political power from the money that's generated from those drugs and we care about who those people are. VAN SUSTEREN: Ken, who are these contracted employees of the CIA? BUCCHI: I don't that. I'm not the best qualified to talk about that, but I think that's just another example of how, the more you compartmentalize things, the more as a government, you can step back and say, we are not responsible. WATERS: That's right. BUCCHI: We are doing that right now with this downing of this aircraft. To me, this should have been strict guidelines -- long before we have the military of Peru coming in and intercepting this aircraft, we get the tail number, we check it out, so that we are not reporting an aircraft that may be a civilian flight. And the thing is, here's the thing: these contractors I'm sure are paid based upon their success rate and the success rate comes about by way of numbers of aircraft that they intercept. I'm hearing things such as 60 percent of the drugs are being stopped coming out of Peru. Does anybody in America today feel like 60 percent of the drugs came off their streets? (CROSSTALK) WATERS: Ken, I want to thank you for being the clearest voice that I have ever heard coming out of the CIA or any of the related agencies about what is going on in this drug war. Thank you, thank you, thank you! BUCCHI: You are welcome. [clip] VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Before we run out of time, let me ask a quick question of Ken. Ken, what do you think would be the most shocking thing you could say about the drug war itself in South America that the American people don't know about that the CIA is doing? BUCCHI: Well, I think the most shocking thing would not be that. I think the most shocking thing to people would be that it would probably be considerably more efficient and cheaper if we just went down to Colombia and bought all the drugs ourselves. But, you know, ultimately, the stuff is marked up 10, 20-fold by the time it gets here, and the Colombians are becoming billionaires, but we're spending $19 billion a year fighting it. And the states are matching those funds. It's ludicrous. For every dollar you spend on treatment, you spend 23 times that in stopping from coming to the country. But what they'd be most surprised about is that there is a complicity. Meaning, you talk about our borders being a sieve. Why is it during the entire Cold War we never had one nuclear bomb put on Cessna and flown in? I mean, it'd be a heck of a lot more likely to penetrate our borders than launching one from Russia. I don't know why... (CROSSTALK) VAN SUSTEREN: That's going to have to be our last word, unfortunately, Ken, and all of you. 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