-Caveat Lector-
Aleisha Saba wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Was just curious; now after you disarm the Militias and the Public -
> what do you intend to do for a living - sell guns overseas?
>
> So Nurev or Joshua2 - you are talking mighty big but still walking
> pretty short.
> And leave us pore white Christians at the mercy of cannibals and
> perverts.
>
> Saba
>
> Joshua's Plan to Disarm Militias.....
> and Helpless Women
>
> Reproduced from Another List
>
> RE: against entrenched identity
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> Tue, 23 Jun 1998 05:11:11 -0700
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> Re: BRC (replies)): To Rakesh"
> Reply: Yoshie Furuhashi: "Whiteness and Class (was Re: BRC (replies)):
> To Rakesh"
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 05:11:11 -0700
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: against entrenched identity
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>
> In my conception of communism, there won't be any such things as
> whiteness, maleness, heterosexuality, etc., nor will there be
> 'identities' that have been subordinated to the above, _after_ the
> successful abolition of capitalism, racism, sexism, heterosexism, etc.,
> for there won't be any social relations and ideology that would give
> rise to either.
>
> And on which planet Yoshie, will this communism take root and grow?
> Certainly
> not Earth.
>
> Justin Schwartz wrote:
>
> Contrary to what you say, I have never met, in real life, anyone on the
> left who believes that the struggles of women, Blacks, gays, etc. are
> seconday, mere diversions from the main class struggle, things that can
> be
> put off until "after the revolution." I don't even believe anyone on
> this
> list believes anything of the sort.
>
> (Hey Joshua - Is this Revolution to be sponsored by the ADL against the
> Militia, White Christians and the Great Farrakhan.......Rap Brown was
> Right - Getta gun......in fact get a submachine gun - Saba Note)
>
> I do. But not as things to be put off after the revolution, because
> these
> struggles are in lieu of revolution. They prevent revolution.
>
> Even, if in
> one's wildest dreams one thinks that a Marxist revolution could possibly
> happen in the belly of the beast (the USA, as opposed to Europe for
> example),
> " class struggle " does not have the immediacy that identifying as one
> of the
> above groups does.
>
> As a matter of fact, as a backlash against globalization,
> the tendency appears to be that people are retrenching in tribalism,
> religious
> sectarianism, and racism. This trend will probably gather steam as the
> world's
> economies are driven into the toilet by Wall Street and London and
> China.
> IMHO, stopping Corporate Capitalism is vastly more important than Black,
> Gay,
> Women's, or other real or ideological "struggles" at this point in time
> because
> we will all achieve freedom and equality after the biosphere can no
> longer
> sustain us.
>
> Just a thought,
> Joshua2
>
> saba note: Oh Joshua, what you in - Midgets for Marx?
>
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There are three people talking here stupid. Follow the bouncing ball.
Too dumb to read.
J2
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