-Caveat Lector-

OK, c., but just so you realize you just did the same thing to very
conservatives yourself.  Not all are "Christian" and I suspect many of the
extreme profess NO religion whatsoever. <sigh> Religion and politics are
always a nasty combination.  While I would consider myself to have extremely
conservative values I do not consider them of a religious nature.  Just do
not want more laws and more govt intrusion and taxes.  It has little or
nothing to do with religion.  But I will agree that the example of the
killing of Christ must include that element.  I just do not necessarily
relate it to political views today nor all politics throughout time.  One
can be a Zen and have extreme political views, etc. of either far left or
far right views, etc.  Just making sure you are paying attention. :-)
Amelia
----- Original Message -----
From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Weyrich's Free Pass


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> fair enough amelia
> i was thinking more of hitler as an example of a far right "christian"
> condemning the jews for killing christ.
> jewish religion/politics bit was expressed wrongly maybe- i meant that
flw's
> examples were about nationalities- not religions e.g americans killing
> lincoln, not christians killing lincoln. would someone living in jerusalem
> be a jew even if they were not jewish or is there another word for the
state
> at that time. was it palestine? and if it was a mixed crowd that called
for
> barrabas and not christ then it was the palestinians who killed christ. i
> was meaning to poke fun at flw and the idea of "jews killed christ"
because
> i thought that it was generally accepted that the parable of christ could
> have happened anywhere- in any religion (and has) and it was "man" who
> killed christ, not one group of people, so it *is* offensive to pick out
the
> fact that it was the jewish race in which he appeared- there is implicit
> condemnation in the mentioning of it. i thought we were meant to learn
that
> it could have been any plebicite, anywhere and at anytime that would have
> crucified him- it is a central theme of the religion, isn't it? communion
> and that.
> actually- to clarify- i am anti- zionist and anti- monotheistic
extremists/
> fanatics/ fundamentalists everywhere! they all condemn everything- just
the
> same as extreme political correctness does. jesus christ, do i really have
> to be a liberal or a right winger? they are all the same aren't they?
people
> are so fucked out on taking sides and believing in stuff and then pointing
> out everyone that doesn't. or not letting it lie about a crime 2000 years
> ago. to engender fear. utterly feudal.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 7:15 PM
> Subject: [CTRL] Weyrich's Free Pass
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > c.
> > It is news to me that this is a claim by 'the far right' and
> > seems to void your own argument.  Are you saying that very
> > conservative people are also all Christian?  On what do you
> > base this rather startling revelation?  It has certainly not
> > been my experience and I know just as many religious
> > fanatics who are liberals, maybe more.  If being Jewish is
> > religion and not politics, explain why being conservative is
> > being Christian and not political, please. This is not the
> > ole' liberal propaganda, is it. c?
> > Amelia
> >
>

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