-Caveat Lector-
So what else is new - how stupid can a statement be. Even Cheny has
gone geothermal heating his house. Is this new?
Years ago researching Camelot and King Arthur in a 70 year old
enclopedia - my Funk and Wagnall - I ran across the words Artesian Wells
and read same. Much to my surprise, in Columbus, Ohio was an artesian
well - nobody had ever heard of it, but when I found it I was in for a
jolt.
it was on the State House grounds; it went down nearly 3,000 feet and
work had begun prior to civil war and began again in as I recall 1920
period.
At 150 feet, the water tasted like petroleum (no wonder they tried to
bury this one).....the water at nearly 3,000 feet was 97 degrees. Even
the US Geologial Branch had not heard of this well, but I ended up with
day to day drillings.
Now they speak of geothermal heating, etc.......this article nearly 100
years old now, stated that Grelle France heated their entire government
and imagine cool it now, with the aid of this Artesian Well - geothermal
stuff they call it today - for evrything old is new again.
Scientists say by cutting energy we can conserve.....brilliant - hey -
turn out the lights. They fail to mention that some of this
fluroescent lighting has adverse effects of some people's eyes.....ever
go into a clothing store thinking you are young and beautiful and get
aload of yourself under those fluro lights? Almost like an X Ray?
Interesting item; dumb title - by the well, I found the precise location
of that old well and Dave Thomas, the Hamberger King had put a statute
of James Rhodes our late Govenor, upon same.......so when Rhodes said
one time he knew where all the bodies were buried, he wasn't kidding.
For the is oil under our State House Grounds; but a I understand it the
Gas Companies were worried Wild Cat Get Rich One Drum a Day oil seekers
would ruin gas deposits - is this why Meyer Lansky, of the Jewish
Russian Mafia came to Columbus, Ohio inspecting the grounds for oil and
natural resources - and onto Kentucky?
Story re my Artesian Well appeared in a magazine (I got half the money
for story)....someone wanted it buried, for when I looked at that Board
of Trustees for this magazine, lo and behold one Watergate Lawyer (he
won his only case, Phi Beta Kappa), one Ambassador to India former
Attorney General, and oh such people you would not believe......
So much for geothermal whatever they call that crap now.....Grelle
France used it nearly 100 year ago - and if you do not believe me, Look
That Up in your Funk and Wagnall.
Mrs. Rosenberg aka Saba
(and this has to be Most Stupid Headline In all Eternity ......)
May 6, 2001
U.S. Scientists See Big Power Savings From Conservation
By JOSEPH KAHN
The Associated Press Vice President Dick Cheney's official residence is
energy efficient.
The Price of Power Nationwide
In California, Solar's Time to Shine (May 3, 2001)
Energy Efficiency Programs Are Set for Bush Budget Cut (April 5, 2001)
Cheney Promotes Increasing Supply as Energy Policy (May 1, 2001)
Clinton Energy-Saving Rules Are Getting a Second Look (March 31, 2001)
In the Race to Produce More Power, States Are Faced With Environmental
Tradeoffs (March 26, 2001)
Expanded Coverage
Politics: White House
Join a Discussion on President Bush's Environmental Policy
Join a Discussion on Future Energy Sources
Discuss the Bush Presidency in the Issue of the Week Forum
ASHINGTON, May 5 � Scientists at the country's national laboratories
have projected enormous energy savings if the government takes
aggressive steps to encourage energy conservation in homes, factories,
offices, appliances, cars and power plants.
Their studies, completed just before the Bush administration took
office, are at odds with the administration's repeated assertions in
recent weeks that the nation needs to build a big new power plant every
week for the next 20 years to keep up with the demand for electricity,
and that big increases in production of coal and natural gas are needed
to fuel those plants.
A lengthy and detailed report based on three years of work by five
national laboratories said that a government-led efficiency program
emphasizing research and incentives to adopt new technologies could
reduce the growth in electricity demand by 20 percent to 47 percent.
That would be the equivalent of between 265 and 610 big 300-megawatt
power plants, a steep reduction from the 1,300 new plants that the
administration predicts will be needed. The range depends on how
aggressively the government encourages efficiency in buildings,
factories and appliances, as well as on the price of energy, which
affects whether new technologies are economically attractive.
Another laboratory study found that government office buildings could
cut their own use of power by one-fifth at no net cost to the taxpayers
by adopting widespread energy conservation measures, paying for the
estimated $5 billion investment with the energy savings.
But the Bush administration, which is in the final stages of preparing a
strategy to deal with what it calls an energy crisis, has not publicized
these findings, relying instead primarily on advice from economists at
the Energy Department's Energy Information Agency, who often take a
skeptical view of projected efficiency gains and predict a much greater
need for fossil fuel supplies.
Administration officials said that some of the national laboratories'
studies were based on theoretical assumptions that do not translate well
into policy.
"We are looking for practical solutions here," said Jeanne Lopatto, a
spokeswoman for the Energy Department. "Whatever works, we're interested
in. But some of these ideas have been funded over many years and they
have a very small impact on energy needs."
The once obscure debate between scientists at the national laboratories
and economists at the information agency, both sides working for the
Department of Energy, reflects a raging dispute between President Bush
and many Democrats and environmentalists. While both sides agree that
the United States faces energy problems, Mr. Bush's team has emphasized
the quest for new supplies, while his critics emphasize untapped
potential to reduce demand.
Vice President Dick Cheney, speaking publicly last week on the energy
plan he is in charge of drafting, used the information agency's
projections when he said that the nation would need at least 1,300 new
power plants by 2020. Mr. Cheney used the figure to dramatize the need
to mobilize public and private resources to close a supply gap.
Mr. Cheney has not publicly noted that other Energy Department studies
show ways to trim that number. The conservation measures that the
scientists consider feasible would save future energy costs and prevent
air pollution from hundreds of power plants.
The laboratories' estimates assume widespread application of some
time-tested efficiency standards and the success of some newer
inventions that scientists love but many bottom-line economists tend to
distrust as expensive or unrealistic.
Their work was reviewed by outside experts from industry, government and
universities.
Some of the proposed conservation steps are neither costly nor complex.
Just this week, researchers at the Energy Department's Lawrence Berkeley
National Laboratory announced that they had developed a fluorescent
table lamp that reduces the need for overhead lighting. The laboratory
says the lamp matches the combined output of a 300-watt halogen lamp and
a 150-watt bulb, but uses a quarter of the energy.
"Widespread use of this lighting system in offices and homes could
greatly reduce the current power problems we have in California," said
Michael Siminovitch, a scientist at the laboratory.
Other technologies have been proved in field tests. At Fort Polk, an
Army base in Louisiana, electricity use during peak hours fell by 43
percent after base managers installed fluorescent lights, low-flow
shower heads, new attic insulation and new home heating and cooling
systems.
Most of the savings came from installing geothermal heat pumps, an
efficient home heating and cooling system that circulates fluids through
underground coils but otherwise uses conventional technologies. Hundreds
of homes on the base were equipped with the systems, generating
immediate cost savings for electricity and totally eliminating the
homes' use of natural gas for water heating. The entire installation
cost was covered by a private contractor that makes a profit by sharing
in the government's cost savings for the first 20 years.
The heat pumps, though still something of a novelty, are completely
proven and save so much money that President Bush installed a system at
his new ranch home in Crawford, Tex., Mr. Cheney's official home, the
Naval Observatory in Washington, also uses geothermal heat pumps to cut
down on its energy bill.
A study prepared by the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory last year
contended that striving to make such savings often made sound economic
sense.
The study found that the federal government, the largest energy user in
the United States with some 500,000 buildings, could reduce its own
energy consumption by one- fifth. The investment necessary to realize
those gains would be $5.2 billion, the study said, but the energy
savings would knock nearly $1 billion annually off the government's
energy bill, an attractive rate of return.
Some private companies have already made significant advances in what
are known as combined heat and generation plants, which could become
industry standards, energy department experts say. Chevron has estimated
that it saved $100 million a year after it withdrew a refinery from the
Texas electricity grid and relied on an on-site generator, which allowed
it to recycle waste heat from the generation process for refining.
New efficiency standards for clothes washers, water heaters and
air-conditioners adopted by the Clinton administration were projected by
the Clinton Energy Department to reduce electricity demand by the
equivalent of 170 300-megawatt power plants over 20 years if fully
enforced.
President Bush's fiscal 2002 budget slashed the department's spending on
researching and developing energy-efficient buildings and factories,
more fuel-efficient automobiles, new appliance standards and more
efficient lighting. Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said some of that
work was better left to the private sector.
Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, both former oil industry executives, seem to
have assigned a tertiary role to efficiency improvements, behind new
drilling for oil and gas and new construction of energy infrastructure,
like pipelines and power plants. Neither the president nor the vice
president has promoted his own energy-saving home as a model.
In fact, Mr. Cheney said last week, "Conservation may be a sign of
personal virtue, but it is not a sufficient basis for a sound,
comprehensive energy policy."
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