-Caveat Lector- Thanks, Linda. And Kris. If one must read David Icke and shape-shifting reptoids, etc. to understand the Bush Crime Family, then I can see how we are not seeing the same things, 'reading off the same page', at all for I have long-since written him off. 'Venture capitalist are anyone who invests (ventures) in the financing of a new business or company. This country has thousands of them right now and it is a perfectly legal and honorable method of making money. I am sure they would be shocked to learn that you consider it some how evil. Many companies would never have had a chance of going into business without this method of financing. Even if the original money is somewhat suspect, the Bush story is still a success story for wealth tends to dissipate over generations instead of increase. An example of this would be the Kennedy wealth. Old Joe Kennedy, running Scotch in during prohibition and all so why is it not the Kennedy Crime Family for that was much more recent? I think the sins being passed to the next generation should stop after over a hundred years. Do you know exactly how your great-grandfather earned a living and made money and the names and reputations of each and every person he know or ever did business with? How much do these people influence your daily life now? Do they guide your every decision and action? Can you even remember your great-grandfather and was he still living when you were born? The amount of time spent on research does not guarantee a superior product. One can devote 24/7 and still produce very flawed, bogus 'facts.' I do not think it is unreasonable to require the same level of proof in regard to the Bush family that is accorded other topics. I just do not see it in this area. I think most of the negative things purported are totally political. Mind controlled subjects are the first to say that they cannot distinguish truth from programming. It would seem that they would have been programmed to forget about Bush and not to remember every sort of evil under the sun. At least, I would not program people to remember me in this way. So who or what did the programming and what was their motive? True mind-controlling would not allow just these ever so Bush-bashing facts to leak. I will have to have proof of the old fashioned kind~~ facts, logic, reason, etc. When Point B is so predetermined that the connection between it an Point A must be so contrived as to defy reason, filling in the huge gap with shape-shifting and mind control will not work for me. I suspect they do not work for a lot of people. It becomes the "Kevin Bacon" connection. With enough moves and allowing literally anything, you can connect anybody to anything at all. Pretty much 'prove' anything, too, but that does not make it true. I think it would be much more honest to attack the Bush family on politics as that is what I truly believe the source for this activity to be. The motivation is to destroy by character assassination that which is politically objectionable. But I shall continue to consider and look for evidence. All politicos are very flawed people and have enough problems without exaggeration and embellishment. I am sure there are lots of negative things about all of them. I just do not see a wealth more of credible evidence against the Bush family than I see about other major political figures. Just MHO, ~Amelia~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Minor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] The Jeb Bush Story That Won' t Go Away -Caveat Lector- >>Some have taken the fact that a few generations back George Bush's grandfather married into the Walker family and make that the basis of their research. All "connections" seem to follow from that.<< So where do YOU think the money George and Jeb and Neil and Marvin--not to mention Bucky, Prescott, Jr., and the rest of them--have to invest comes from? These are not rumors. There are many researchers who dedicate almost all their free time to finding out out where the money called "venture capital" comes from. They trace the networks of venture capital families back to the days of the opium pushing in China, and trace the profits from that enterprise into the early infrastructure which was built in the U.S. in the 19th century. Today that's called money laundering, and that's exactly what G.H. Walker did. And that's what his Bush heirs are still doing. The reason it's so hard to prove is that criminals have learned to operate in secrecy. The other part that's difficult for many people to believe is that mind control enters into the picture. If you read with an open mind, you will find numerous people who were involved in mind control programs and recall certain aspects of the programming they went through. When all these stories are pieced together, a clearer picture does emerge. -----Original Message----- From: Dale Stonehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:38 AM Subject: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] The Jeb Bush Story That Won' t Go Away >-----Original Message----- >From: Amelia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:28 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Jeb Bush Story That Won't Go Away > >Amelia, >Thanks for the thoughtful response. It's nice to see some independent >thinking going on, it's pretty rare these days. > >But I read and I read and I have become weary of the same old same old and >insulted by such proof as "my research indicates" and "we found" and >interviews where the person clearly states they are reciting rumors and have >no knowledge . > >Absolutely true, and the worst offender of all is David Icke. The problem is >these make good stories and few seem to care if they are true or not. Some >have taken the fact that a few generations back George Bush's grandfather >married into the Walker family and make that the basis of their research. >All "connections" seem to follow from that. > >The 'connections' do not truly connect and require great leaps of faith in a >preconceived agenda in order to follow them. > >Right again. If just one of these connection were proven it would help. If I >could hear the alleged tape recording of Nixon, Bush, Hoover, et al. >discussing the Kennedy assassination before it occurred, I might be more >convinced. Why hasn't it come to light? It may be fear of death, or it could >be there is more to the story that would collapse all conspiracy theories. I >suspect it has more to do with a perceived threat to the profit-making >ability of U.S. Corporations. > >Take for example, the Jeb Bush story of the subject line > >This reminds me of the Albert Goldman-Kitty Kelley style of journalism which >goes like this: > >Elvis Presley/John Lennon/Frank Sinatra etc. is/was a human being, and in >this book I will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is/was a human >being. If a biographer took all the negative actions of my life and put them >in writing while ignoring the positive side I would look pretty bad too. > >I've felt for a long time that those who scream loudest about the sins of >others are worried that unless they make enough distracting noise about >others their own sins may become the subject of discussion. > >Of course I will gladly exempt from that line of thinking all those who are >without sin. > >Dale > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'�with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds�is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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