This article is shocking - Mayor Guiliano's track record in New York is atrocious - note the arrests for marijuana under March - note the woman born with no arms and legs no doubt due to this horrible drug which was banned - put into a prison for having possession of pot? The police are making criminals out of our children - sending older kids to prison and jail - yet they open the doors to the 5 Golden Dragons and the Golden Triangle who in turn kick back to the feds to keep operating? Watch this one - now before Ronald Reagan was gunned down, the CFR had story in newspaper in Columbus saying Reagan better lay off, or else.....then it was reported Castro was going to have Reagan Assassinated - and then when Reagan shot, well - enough said. Yesterday story put out that Osama bin Laden was going to have Bush assassinated - step number one..... Bush has stepped on the wrong toes - and it seems to me there is a plan by someone who was also in on shooting of Reagan, with their little hypnotic drug controlled assassins = well refer to Littleton and two drug crazed kids on legal drugs - the game is afoot. So read this crap and see what our government is doing whie at this time an evil element is laying ground work to assassinate our President? What kind of drugs was Hinckley on - and Sirhan and Oswald was in a stupor like a Manchurian Candidate. And then read this garbage and see what is happening in this country. This is the 60's all over again - it has begun.... The story re Reagan and the 300 - was on front page of the Columbus Dispatch and when I read it and then the item re Castro - I said they are going to shoot Reagan and blame Castro.....so what kind of drug deal do we have going from Cuba to USA??? Drugs buried in the sand and what is need for Columbian Gold, when we can grow the stuff free in our own backyards. 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The Year In Pot Culture/Society Editorial Editorial Keywords: THE (LUDICROUS) WAR ON (SOME) DRUGS Source: The Village Voice Published: Published January 30 - February 6, 2001 Author: Kevin Nelson Posted on 02/04/2001 10:10:11 PST by AnnaZ Published January 30 - February 6, 2001 Twelve Months in the Life of Marijuana Prohibition The Year In Pot by Kevin Nelson ne of the problems that the marijuana reform movement consistently faces is that everyone wants to talk about what marijuana does, but no one ever wants to look at what marijuana prohibition does. Marijuana never kicks down your door in the middle of the night. Marijuana never locks up sick and dying people, does not suppress medical research, does not peek in bedroom windows. Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could. ? RICHARD COWAN, FORMER HEAD OF NORML, NOW EDITOR OF WWW.MARIJUANANEWS.COM Estimated U.S. deaths in 2000 attributed to: tobacco: 400,000 alcohol: 110,000 prescription drugs: 100,000 suicide: 30,000 murder: 15,000 aspirin and related over-the-counter painkillers: 7600 marijuana: 0 Number of americans arrested since 1965 on marijuana-related charges: over 11 million February 9: Arizona?Deborah Lynn Quinn, 39, born with no arms or legs, is sentenced to one year in Arizona prison for marijuana possession after violating probation on a previous drug offense?attempted sale of 4 grams of marijuana to a police informant for $20. Quinn will require around-the-clock care for feeding, bathing, and hygiene. February 15: The United States' prison and jail population surpasses 2 million people. Prisons are one of the fastest-growing expenses of government. It costs about $100,000 to build a single prison cell and about $24,000 per year to house an individual prisoner. Some 1.3 million U.S. inmates are currently serving time for nonviolent offenses. One-quarter of the world's prisoners are now incarcerated in the "land of the free." February 18: Atlanta?Louis E. Covar Jr., 51, a quadriplegic, paralyzed from the neck down in a diving accident on July 4, 1967, who says he uses marijuana to relieve the pain from muscle spasms in his neck, is sentenced to seven years in prison after being accused of selling marijuana out of his home. Covar denies the charge, insisting the small amount seized (one and a quarter ounces) was for his personal medicinal use. According to the Georgia Department of Corrections, the special care Covar needs will cost $258.33 a day?or more than 660,000 if he serves his full seven years. A typical prisoner costs taxpayers $47.63 per day. February 23: The Hawaii Medical Association comes out against the pending state medical marijuana initiative. Heidi Singh, HMA's director of legislative and government affairs, says more studies should be done, and that "physicians cannot in good faith recommend a drug therapy without clinical evidence to back it up." February 28: Madrid, Spain?The chemical in marijuana that produces a high shows promise as a weapon against deadly brain tumors, according to Spanish scientists. In a study on rats, a team from Complutense University and Autonoma University in Madrid found that one of marijuana's active ingredients, THC, eliminated tumor cells in advanced cases of glioma, a quick-killing cancer for which there is currently no effective treatment. The researchers found that pumping THC into the tumors cleared the cancer in more than a third of the test rats. The drug prolonged the life of another third by up to 40 days, but was ineffective in the rest. The cancer did not recur in any of the survivors. March 2: Marijuana-like compounds ease tremors in mice with a condition similar to multiple sclerosis, researchers say in a study, published in the British journal Nature, that appears to corroborate patients' claims that pot helps them deal with the disease. March 13: Mondovi, Wisconsin?Police raid the home of Jacki Rickert at 3:30 a.m. and seize a small amount of marijuana. Rickert, 49, who is wheelchair-bound and weighs 90 pounds, suffers from Ehlers-Danos syndrome and reflexive sympathetic dystrophy, bone and muscle diseases respectively. She smokes marijuana to ease her pain and strengthen her appetite. Rickert was promised but later denied entrance to the federal Investigative New Drug program, which distributes a tin of 300 pre-rolled marijuana cigarettes to eight legally protected American citizens each month. Rickert's daughter, Tammy, claims the police raid has left her mother a wreck. "She's tiny, frail," Tammy said. "She's not out to hurt anybody. She's trying to maintain some semblance of a quality of life. The marijuana, which the government pretty much told her she could use, helps a little. This whole thing is unbelievable." March 16: New York City?An unarmed black security guard, Patrick Dorismond, is shot dead by undercover New York City police officers conducting a marijuana "buy-and-bust." Two plainclothes detectives approach Dorismond, asking if he will sell them "some weed." Dorismond rebuffs the men, a scuffle ensues, and a third officer, Anthony Vasquez, fires a single bullet into Dorismond's chest. No drugs or other contraband is found on Dorismond's body. The shooting is the third time in 13 months plainclothes New York City police officers kill an unarmed black man. Under Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, marijuana arrests have risen from 720 in 1992 to 59,945 in the first 11 months of 2000. April 1: Canada's premier national newspaper, The National Post, editorializes in favor of an eventual legalization of marijuana: "Canada's police, judges, and prosecutors have better things to do with their time than track down those who produce and consume a substance no more dangerous than alcohol and tobacco. We should begin the decriminalization of marijuana by immediately reducing the punishments that can be imposed for its possession to modest fines?and start thinking about how to regulate its use." April 25: The Hawaii State Senate passes medical marijuana legislation, joining California, Oregon, Washington, Maine, Alaska, Arizona, and the District of Columbia in shielding medical marijuana patients from criminal prosecution. June 9: Human Rights Watch releases a study showing that Illinois has the worst racial disparity among jailed drug offenders of any state in the nation. Black men in Illinois are 57 times more likely than white men to be sent to prison on drug charges, and blacks make up 90 percent of all drug-related prison admissions. Though federal studies show that nationwide white drug users outnumber black drug users 5 to 1, blacks make up about 62 percent of prisoners incarcerated on drug charges, compared with 36 percent for whites. June 14: Los Angeles?Bestselling author, cancer and AIDS patient, and high-profile medical marijuana activist Peter McWilliams is found dead in his home. McWilliams, barred by a federal court order from using marijuana to counteract the extreme nausea caused by his AIDS drugs, is found slumped on his bathroom floor, choked to death on vomit. His federal prosecutors say they are "saddened by his death." McWilliams's books include How to Heal Depression; Getting Over the Loss of a Love; Life 101; and Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Country. July 31: Ontario, Canada?Ontario's top court rules unanimously (3-0) that Canada's law making marijuana possession a crime is unconstitutional, because it does not take into account the needs of medical marijuana patients. The judges allow the current law to remain in effect for another 12 months, to permit Parliament to rewrite it. However, if the Canadian government fails to set up a medical marijuana distribution program by July 31, 2001, all marijuana laws in Canada will be struck down. August 16: Los Angeles?The American Medical Marijuana Association reports that medical marijuana patient, grower, and author of How to Grow Medical Marijuana Todd McCormick, confined to federal prison while appealing his case, has been sent to solitary confinement. Todd has severe spinal problems that have caused him "unbearable" pain, according to his mother, Ann McCormick. She says Todd went to the medical office and requested the synthetic form of marijuana, Marinol, produced by Unimed Pharmaceuticals, which he had been taking before his incarceration. One day after Todd asked for the easily prescribed drug, the feds ordered he be drug tested. When the results came back positive for marijuana, Todd was placed in solitary confinement. August 20: Seattle?A crowd estimated at 100,000 gathers at Myrtle Edwards Park for Hempfest 2000, calling for the legalization of marijuana for personal and medical use, as well as legalization of hemp for environmentally sustainable industrial uses. The event is the largest of its kind in the world, with no arrests reported. September 8: Santa Fe?Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader joins New Mexico's Republican governor, Gary Johnson, in criticizing the nation's war on drugs, calling for marijuana legalization and reform of what Nader calls "self-defeating and antiquated" drug laws. Rehabilitation gives a far better payoff than "criminalizing and militarizing the situation," Nader says at a news conference. "Study after study has shown that, and yet somehow it doesn't get through to federal policy." October 16: The FBI releases its 1999 Uniform Crime Report. There was a record total of 704,812 U.S. marijuana arrests in 1999, or one every 45 seconds. Of those arrests, 620,541 (88 percent) were for simple marijuana possession, and 84,271 (12 percent) were for sales or cultivation. Through 1999, there were 4,175,357 marijuana arrests under the Clinton administration, a record for any U.S. presidency. November 7, election day: Voters across the United States pass sweeping drug law reform initiatives. In California, despite united opposition from Governor Gray Davis, Attorney General Bill Lockyer, Senator Dianne Feinstein, statewide police associations, and prison guard unions, citizens vote 61 percent to 39 percent to pass Proposition 36, diverting nonviolent drug offenders into treatment rather than prison for first and second offenses. Proponents claim the move will save the state $150 million annually and eliminate the need for a new state prison. Mendocino County voters approve Measure G by a 58-42 margin, decriminalizing personal use and the growing of up to 25 marijuana plants. Nevadans vote 65 percent to 35 percent to pass Question 9, allowing qualified patients to possess marijuana for medicinal purposes. In response, a self-appointed task force of state health care officials, the Nevada Medical Marijuana Initiative Work Group, moves to limit use of the drug to research studies, adding months if not years to approval time. By a 53-47 margin, Colorado voters pass Amendment 20, allowing qualified patients to possess up to two ounces of marijuana and grow up to six plants. Tom Strickland, U.S. attorney for Colorado, says that his office will continue to "aggressively enforce federal drug laws, including the prohibition of marijuana, regardless of the passage of this ballot initiative." Utahans, by a margin of 69-31, pass Initiative B, denying government agencies the right to seize property from individuals before they are convicted of a crime. Oregonians pass a similar property-seizure reform initiative, Measure 3?the Oregon Property Protection Act?by a margin of 67-33. Measure 3 diverts drug forfeiture proceeds from police treasuries into drug treatment programs. November 27: In U.S. v. Oakland Cannabis Buyers' Cooperative, 00-151, the Supreme Court takes on the issue of whether "medical necessity" is an acceptable defense against the federal law that makes marijuana distribution a crime. A decision is expected by June 2001. December 6: Brussels, Belgium?Liberal prime minister Guy Verhofstadt and a coalition of Liberals, Socialists, and Greens vote to end marijuana prohibition. As of January 1, 2001, Belgium, joining Holland in embracing tolerance, will "exempt from punishment possession, consumption, and trade of up to five grams hashish or marijuana." Belgium is the seat of the European Union. December 6: In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine released today, President Bill Clinton is asked if he thinks "people should go to jail for using or even selling small amounts of marijuana." Clinton replies, "I think that most small amounts of marijuana have been decriminalized in some places, and should be." Clinton adds, "We really need a reexamination of our entire policy on imprisonment. A lot of people are in prison because they have drug problems or alcohol problems and too many of them are getting out?particularly out of state systems?without treatment, without education, without skills, without serious efforts at job placement." [EMAIL PROTECTED] See Also: The Herbalist Arrested for Giving Marijuana to the Sick Kenneth Toglia Still Sows Seeds of Hope by Andrew Friedman Greener Pastures We?re Not in Kansas Anymore by Adamma Ince Tell us what you think. [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-mail this story to a friend. 1 Posted on 02/04/2001 10:10:11 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ On the basis of the statistical evidence in the above article, it appears that tobacco and alcohol are the real problems. 2 Posted on 02/04/2001 10:17:29 PST by Aura Of The Blade [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ July 27,1995 The day I discovered first-hand why anti-authoriarians really exist. ;-) Good post Anna! 3 Posted on 02/04/2001 10:24:46 PST by heavyd [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ Zero deaths from pot, as opposed to over 800,000 from booze, tobacco and prescription drugs! I'd mention that the Bush Dynasty is the largest stock-holder in Eli Lilly, which makes billion$ yearly from artificial tranquilizers (competition with marijuana), but the usual suspects would flock here to ruin your thread ;^) Didn't you Californians decriminalize pot for medical uses? 4 Posted on 02/04/2001 10:26:07 PST by Natty Bumpo [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ Make that 'anti-authoritarians', please. 5 Posted on 02/04/2001 10:26:17 PST by heavyd [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] Through 1999, there were 4,175,357 marijuana arrests under the Clinton administration, a record for any U.S. presidency. In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine released today, President Bill Clinton is asked if he thinks "people should go to jail for using or even selling small amounts of marijuana." Clinton replies, "I think that most small amounts of marijuana have been decriminalized in some places, and should be." Clinton adds, "We really need a reexamination of our entire policy on imprisonment. � And again: Through 1999, there were 4,175,357 marijuana arrests under the Clinton administration, a record for any U.S. presidency. What a bozo. 6 Posted on 02/04/2001 10:43:21 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Natty Bumpo I'd mention that the Bush Dynasty is the largest stock-holder in Eli Lilly, which makes billion$ yearly from artificial tranquilizers (competition with marijuana)... � Yup. Addicts are baaaaad, need to be stopped, jailed, felonized. Of course "having" to take prozacluvoxritalinetc every day for YEARS or LIFE is NOT being an addict, or a bad thing. It's a good thing.�Even for the chil'run.�'Cause, hey, then the corporations are raking it in. � Hmmm... maybe Monsanto can patent the marijuana seed next. Then they'll decriminalize it. � ...but the usual suspects would flock here to ruin your thread ;^) � Fred25, where are you when I need you? � ;^) � Didn't you Californians decriminalize pot for medical uses? Uh huh. Ask Peter McWilliams about that. Oops, sorry, you can't. He's dead. (Bumpo!) � 7 Posted on 02/04/2001 10:56:20 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ Bumpo! 8 Posted on 02/04/2001 11:18:00 PST by Natty Bumpo [ Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | Top | Last ] To: heavyd July 27,1995... You got busted? LOL! � (If that's not a joke, I ask for forgiveness in advance...) The day I discovered first-hand why anti-authoritarians really exist. ;-) To make other people's life hell? O/T (kinda) -- the philosophy/psychology of Kontrollers and their minions is (very) well explained here: RAGING AGAINST SELF DEFENSE -- A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality -- an excellent read. 9 Posted on 02/04/2001 11:20:53 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ,Cato,Buckeroo,Alan Chapman,OWK,NovemberCharlie,tpaine,freefly,heavyd,Taxula,dirtboy February 28: Madrid, Spain�The chemical in marijuana that produces a high shows promise as a weapon against deadly brain tumors, according to Spanish scientists. In a study on rats, a team from Complutense University and Autonoma University in Madrid found that one of marijuana's active ingredients, THC, eliminated tumor cells in advanced cases of glioma,... Fred25 quit smoking pot 35 years ago. I knew it! I knew there was a correlation. I was going to flag him but if it would ruin the thread to bring in the Drugged Warriors I won't. 10 Posted on 02/04/2001 12:59:44 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: philman_36,francisandbeans,Dan from Michigan,real saxophonist,Razwan,BluesDuke,Nate505,AASBEST Now I can hardly be accused of piling on the Jackboot Warriors since they aren't here yet. Just flagging the Patriots of the Constitution as a FYI before OldFart25 can get here and attempt to hijack there 1st Ammendment rights. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW FRED!!! Some of us like information. Some of us like to make up our own minds. 11 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:10:16 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye Fred25 quit smoking pot 35 years ago. I knew it! I knew there was a correlation. I was going to flag him but if it would ruin the thread to bring in the Drugged Warriors I won't. Fred will be here soon enough, along with some of his drug warrior buddies..... Here they are discussing the War on (some) drugs, and debating the best way to continue it's failed policies.... 12 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:16:26 PST by ActionNewsBill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | Top | Last ] To: AAABEST,Cernunnos,ICU812,justshutandtakeit,MileHi,coloradan,LeperMessiah,NC_Libertarian,Prism,muggs Just a few more of the many Defenders of Liberty here on FR that have voiced opposition to the insaneWOD's. 13 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:19:35 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ Yep, became a criminal on that day, no need to apologize tho, 'stuff' happens. ;-) There is knowledge in all things. Too bad I only learn it after the fact... 14 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:21:37 PST by heavyd [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | Top | Last ] To: heavyd Yep, became a criminal on that day, no need to apologize tho, 'stuff' happens. ;-) "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand Hey, don't worry about it, man....we're all criminals in one way or another. 15 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:29:05 PST by ActionNewsBill [ Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye Great article. Summarizes the effects of the insane war brilliantly. One thing not mentioned is that Peter MacWilliams was working on yet another book, but his manuscript was seized by the feds, and never heard from again. Violation of the First Amendment among all the other outrages? 16 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:30:29 PST by coloradan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ,TigersEye Thanks for the post/flag. One area that the author does not point out is that over half of the 2 million (plus) inmates locked up in prison/jail within America are for drug related matters. Although I don't know the percentage for marijuana useage/possession in relationship, I know that many people have had their lives destroyed (not just the inmates) for the possession of a joint. To me, all the money spent for the law enforcement/judicial proceedings and subsequent jail time could be better served in the way of education. 17 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:30:44 PST by Buckeroo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ Hello Anna Z... The reason is shinning brilliantly through your article as to why we do not de-criminalize it. Look again at the article from the stand point of a business man in the law and prison sector. See my point? They will never legalize it because of the amount of money they will lose. I know about the argument in regard to the tax revenues, but that is not an equal. 'specially since we now have the seizure laws accepted by the complaisant masses... Just my two... 18 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:32:11 PST by sit-rep [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill,HappyAndFree,biblewonk,goseminoles,backhoe,borkrules,Basil314,Loopy,freeeee ROTFPIMP! That's him in the middle isn't it? With the addition of your name, ActionNewsBill, the list of Warriors Who Don't Use the Constitution for Toilet Paper is up to 169. Stuff it Fred. My list of pro-prohibitionists is even twice the size of yours still. My hair looks better too. 19 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:35:17 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | Top | Last ] Tobacco and Alcohol good, Marijuana evil And they act as if there is some clear unmistakeable line between them. 20 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:36:47 PST by ICU812 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: ActionNewsBill Thanks Bill. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, I do what I want anyways and have managed not to offend anyone too badly. But tomorrows a brand new day... 21 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:39:34 PST by heavyd [ Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye Did you know the results found in this study were seen after merely irrigating the Gliomas with THC? Reduction in tumor mass was also observed in some cases. 22 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:47:44 PST by heavyd [ Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ Estimated U.S. deaths in 2000 attributed to: tobacco: 400,000 marijuana: 0 This is a lie. First of all, deaths from "tobacco-related illnesses" are calculated like this: If you ever smoked, even if it was for one week in 1935, and then you fall over dead of a heart attack tomorrow at age 102, then congratulations, you're the victim of a "tobacco-related illness." The statistics are thus so wildly inflated as to be completely unreliable and meaningless. Second, nobody looks for marijuana-related deaths, so of course they're going to find nothing. Admittedly, it's hard to investigate, since most users don't smoke 20 pot sticks a day, but that's not an excuse for saying "zero deaths." Also, if you smoke pot but also smoke cigarettes, you're going to automatically go into the "tobacco-related illness" category no matter what. To my knowledge, there's only been one study that looked at people who smoked pot regularly but never smoked tobacco, and that study showed that pot is much, much worse for you than tobacco ever was in terms of lung and heart damage. Which is fine. I'm pretty libertarian when it comes to pot; I think it should be decriminalized. But using false statistics to make a case is never acceptable. (Not that I would expect the truth from the Village Voice, but still.) 23 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:49:38 PST by Timesink [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Benson_Carter,StevenB,PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain,martoni,El Pato Lukas,Carol-HuTex,wastoute Gotta go to town and check the mail folks. This oughta give enough support to keep the Hooded Ones in check though. With sit-rep an even 170 FReepers have weighed in as Scrap the WOD's in the two weeks that I have been sizing this up. 60 for Fred. Later! 24 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:51:00 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | Top | Last ] To: Timesink I'm not as think as you stoned I am. 25 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:53:36 PST by Uncle Meat [ Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye 170 FReepers to 60 for Fred. Based upon the principle of majority to rule, we win. 26 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:54:21 PST by hammach [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye Make me # 171. Legalize all drugs. 27 Posted on 02/04/2001 13:58:06 PST by secretagent [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | Top | Last ] To: heavyd No I didn't. That is amazing. However having studied herbal medicine the last 12 years it is not so amazing. The day I was cleaning some Comfrey roots with a quarter inch deep cut on my hand and after an hour decided to take a break and scrape the gooey slime of the roots off I ceased to be amazed. The cut was gone. Only fresh pink skin was there and no line, no skin tags, nothing but new skin. I also use a root that kills a cold or flu dead if used at the first sign of irritation, running nose or what have you. I don't get sick. Period. 28 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:01:53 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | Top | Last ] To: secretagent You're already on the list. ~8+O 29 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:04:05 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | Top | Last ] To: Timesink I'm sure you are right about the methods used to calculate cigarette mortality. However the toxicity of Cannabis has been determined, someone posted it the other day but the number isn't as meaningful without other substances numbers to compare it to. At any rate the toxicity is so low you would have to eat about a bale of it to be lethal or smoke about 25 lb.'s in an hour. Obviously you would die of colic or smoke inhalation before the pharmocologic effect would get you. As to emergency room deaths they most certainly would record it as death by cannabis ingestion if that were the cause. Physicians and coroners look for the cause of poisoning no matter what the source. And given the current political climate (of the last 30 some years) coroners would go for death by pot at the least opportunity. They are either elected or hired by pol.'s or sherrifs. Well I'm going to check my mail this time come he!! or hi water. Be back in a bit. 30 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:13:04 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye What is that root????? 31 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:16:23 PST by Yaelle [ Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye Add me to your list, if I am not on it already. 32 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:20:27 PST by ThJ1800 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | Top | Last ] To: Timesink This is a lie. First of all, deaths from "tobacco-related illnesses" are calculated like this: If you ever smoked, even if it was for one week in 1935, and then you fall over dead of a heart attack tomorrow at age 102, then congratulations, you're the victim of a "tobacco-related illness." The statistics are thus so wildly inflated as to be completely unreliable and meaningless. � My dad, throughout the '70s and early '80s, was a saccharine user (the blue Hermesetas "click 'n plop one in" kind). Then came the huge "saccharine causes cancer" campaign. � Concerned, he wrote to those who had published the study and asked them to send him their lab tests/results. Turned out that they had been feeding lab animals the equivalent of a human being drinking five hundred saccharine-sweetened drinks a day. I mean, yeah -- at that rate, you're gonna have something go wrong. � For five years he was on an executive loan to the Canadian gov't during which time he was asked to participate on a board to study the second-hand effects of smoking. Millions were spent on the study. The results were inconclusive. They went ahead with their "no smoking campaign" regardless, but my dad refused to sign his name to the measure. � When I was pregnant my doctor told me under no circumstances should I drink. I asked her for the reports on the effects of alcohol on the unborn. Defects occurred with mothers who drank (drum roll, please) 6-10 alcoholic beverages... a day. � I'm also interested in how many smokers (under a pack a day) get cancer. Or do they base their stats on the three-pack a day smokers? � Recently two reports came out of Europe. (Buried in most papers here, tho' probably made FR. ;^) One: After exhaustive research, second-hand smoke-derived cancer is apparently a myth. Two: Those who smoke an average of 10 cigarettes a day suffer little to no effects. � Death seems to hover around extreme behavior. And this makes sense. � What doesn't make sense is the castigation and ostracization of smokers, and, without getting too crazily off-topic, the promotion of homosexual behavior, which, also, in its over(sometimes under-)indulgence brings upon its participants that same mortal spectre. Not just for men, but, oddly enough, for women (sorry, that's "womyn"), too. � As I linked in a post above, there is a psychology to the adherents of the "Kontrol 'Em All" types. � And if it isn't about power, it is always about money. 33 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:43:57 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | Top | Last ] To: coloradan One thing not mentioned is that Peter MacWilliams was working on yet another book, but his manuscript was seized by the feds, and never heard from again. Violation of the First Amendment among all the other outrages? Please, please a source? 34 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:46:47 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye The issue with 2 million prisoners in this country is a really serious issue. There is certainly a huge problem there. I already see an error in the statistics above though regarding 0 deaths from weed. That error standing out like it does makes me wonder if 1/4 of the worlds prisoners are here in the USA. No, it's definitely not true because there are entire nations that are themselves no more than prisons. Weed, legal or illegal. Our laws are so stupid. I got a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt when I drove my 5000 pound pick up 5 blocks to get a pepsi. I could have filled the whole truck with cigarettes and smoked them and while I was at QT a kid on a motorcycle with no helmet hit 60 MPH on a 30 MPH street. Women can kill their babies but I can't grow a plant in my tomato garden and smoke it. Laws just aren't very linear. 35 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:47:26 PST by biblewonk [ Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye All substances imported to our bodies have some effect about the composite environment. I understand smoking marijuana increases blood pressure within the human body for a short period of time. This is not good for some people. As with all things, there is no panecea; moderation and well founded methods of health making information are key issues to a good life. 36 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:49:17 PST by Buckeroo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Meat "I'm not as think as you stoned I am." Wanna twinkie? 37 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:52:53 PST by Luis Gonzalez [ Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | Top | Last ] To: heavyd Yep, became a criminal on that day, no need to apologize tho, 'stuff' happens. ;-) There is knowledge in all things. One of my heroes, a guy named Paul, was jailed often. My biggest hero, name of Jesus, was, in 24 hours, betrayed, tried, convicted and put to death, so my vision of those in prison or with records is not so myopic. � I don't equate their mission with the mission of the anti-WO(s)D faction (before someone flames me), but I do�see a parallel�in the disparity between the "crimes" and the punishment. 38 Posted on 02/04/2001 14:55:20 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye Thanks for the bump-no sign of the drug warriors...Hmmm we beat them up pretty bad last night, maybe they are licking their wounds 39 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:01:27 PST by Razwan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | Top | Last ] To: Yaelle,ThJ1800<p> Yaelle, I don't want to say what root in public. There is already a lot of pressure on it, and no I'm not an enviro-wacko but some plants can stand a lot of pressure and some can't. Which list can I put you on? lol I may be persuaded to tell you in private. :-) ThJ1800. Alrighty Bro, which list? Pro-legalisation or pro-scraptheConstitution? Heh heh. I may become the unofficial FR vote tallier on this issue. Send me your spare chads. 40 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:24:41 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | Top | Last ] To: Uncle Meat How. Hi are you? 41 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:30:17 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | Top | Last ] To: Razwan I saw what you guys did last night, this morning. Not really fair though. You wouldn't let the DWW's use logic or documentation or common sense or anything. If we don't get some here soon this thread may get scrubbed for lack of balance. Or lack of vile spume. 42 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:35:48 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | Top | Last ] To: AnnaZ "The DEA seized the computer containing the manuscript for A Question of Compassion and several others on medical marijuana," said McWilliams. "The computer was returned a month later, the data scrambled by a virus that had somehow infected it while in DEA custody. Six weeks and several thousand dollars later, I got back most of my data, but the most recent version of A Question of Compassion was irreparably damaged." [...] McWilliams appeared in court in a wheelchair, lost weight and spent long hours in bed. Still, even as he awaited sentencing for his "crime" and his finances deteriorated, he worked on a manuscript detailing his ordeal. Just before he died, a fire at his home destroyed the computer on which McWilliams had been writing his manuscript. http://www.fairlaw.org/todd/petes_death.htm http://www.free-market.net/spotlight/mcwilliams/ "In December 1997, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency conducted a pre-dawn raid on his home and stole his computer -- containing the only copy of the book manuscript. " http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread6086.shtml 43 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:38:39 PST by coloradan [ Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | Top | Last ] To: Aura Of The Blade BAN TOBACCO NOW!!!!! 44 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:44:15 PST by Huck [ Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | Top | Last ] To: coloradan Thank you very much. � (FR rocks!!!) 45 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:46:41 PST by AnnaZ [ Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | Top | Last ] To: Mjollnir,nocomad,UncleFud,longshadow,nunya bidness,citizenK,Demidog,DAGO,CalCoolidge,Huck,vedicstar I guess I'll continue to flag those on my pro-legalisation list. Perhaps this will turn out to be a mellow no-nock thread. If anyone would like me to take them off the list and put them on the pro-prohibition list, or just be removed from all lists for any reason, please say so. Flag it to me. You have the right to be list-less. If you remain silent I have the right to keep you listed. In the event that my lists fall into the wrong hands you have the right to apply your 2nd Ammend. rights on me for being a careless dufus. All copyright rights to the afore listed ramblings have been forfeited by posting them. 46 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:51:11 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | Top | Last ] To: phylliswaterstraat,sendtoscott,Voice of the Far Right,monkeywrench,JoeEveryman,Aura Of The Blade FYI bump 47 Posted on 02/04/2001 15:57:57 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | Top | Last ] To: gjenkins,Lysander,Badray,Redcloak,Big Bunyip,Franochio,M1991,fod,Magician,ewchil,jodorowsky,KenH I found this in the "Official Report of the National Commision on Marihuana and Drug Abuse." which was the study ordered by Pres. R. Nixon. The actual title of the report was "Marihuana, A Signal of Misunderstanding." submitted to the President on March 22, 1972 by Raymond P. Schafer, Chairman of the Commision. Published as a paperback by Signet Special from New American Library 1972 pp. 104 Lethality The Commision's National Survey revealed that 48% of adults believe that some people have died from marihuana use. A careful search of the literature and testimony of the nation's health officials has not revealed a single human fatality in the United States proven to have resulted solely from ingestion of marihuana. Experiments with the drug in monkeys demonstrated that the dose required for overdose death was enormous and for all practical purposes unachievable by humans smoking marihuana. This is in marked contrast to other substances in common use, most notably alcohol and barbiturate sleeping pills. Of comparitive note, 89% of all adults in the same Survey believe that some people have died from using alcohol. This indicates that public opinion regarding alcohol and its potential lethality is more accurate than it is for marihuana. At the same time, factual knowledge regarding the inherent danger in using a substance, for example alcohol, seemingly does not deter many persons from using it irresponsibly. 48 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:23:29 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye,Fred25 It is interesting that government supports simple "beliefs" to formulate policy and decision making directives. Many "beliefs" are nothing more than government spread gossip in concert with a liberal press. 49 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:31:48 PST by Buckeroo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | Top | Last ] To: ravinson,John Deere,Lurker,Travis McGee,unix,frankm,rainingred,Glockslinger,DAnconia55,James Mabry Under Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, marijuana arrests have risen from 720 in 1992 to 59,945 in the first 11 months of 2000. Did anyone see the thread about the $500 turn in your neighbor for having guns program in NYC? It was about two days ago. Coupled with this NYC is just getting better all the time. And now they've got Bill&Hill to boot. Yikes! 50 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:39:39 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | Top | Last ] To: Buckeroo Troublemaker. Sadist. Masochist? 51 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:42:22 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye Remember,peed skills,no wait a minute,keed spills,no that's not it,skill peeds,uh... 52 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:43:27 PST by Uncle Meat [ Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | Top | Last ] To: al-andalus,quietolong,Wolfie,Usurer,Nim Noble,Jolly Rodgers,Melinator,FreeTally,Eddeche,Dukie,Belial It is something to think about, Buckeroo, that our extremely liberal press has fed the perceptions that keeps the WOD's going and going and going. Whatever one thinks about why we got there, I have always blamed the press for causing us to lose the VN War. When you think about it the press is the cause of an awful lot of our problems. 53 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:50:57 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | Top | Last ] To: TigersEye I am interested in other's opinions; Fred25 maintains a point of view that government is good. Fred's point of view is refreshing from the point of view that he contradicts the concept of individual rights, liberties and freedoms, which our nation was founded upon. 54 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:54:56 PST by Buckeroo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | Top | Last ] To: Ol'DanTucker,lightning,AuntieGovernment,waterstraat,Southern rock,Lurking Libertarian,hammach,MK UncleMeat, take your headphones off or turn the volume down. 55 Posted on 02/04/2001 16:57:15 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | Top | Last ] To: ihatemyalarmclock,meta,gunshy,signulex,Boru,MadameAxe,Carbon,Ferris,dead,OttoD,Freedom@5280 Buckeroo, it's alright with me. I was just needling you. I have flagged him and several other Drugged Warriors on other threads. I just thought I'd flag all those who've read the Constitution because this is a particularly good article. In spite of what you say you know Fred25 is a rock solid conservative. /sarc. 56 Posted on 02/04/2001 17:07:05 PST by TigersEye [ Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | Top | Last ] To: sit-rep
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