No fun to fight a war is it, if both sides are armed; like Littleton,
one could hardly call that a fair fight.....

But one man with 4,000 pounds of fertilizer brought down the Temple of
Justice - with a little inside help, for you know our government is not
too particular who or what is hired these days.

Then we have this terrible Osama bin Laden who is ten different places
at once - this six foot six arab with five million dollars put on his
head by Madelline Albright is still at large?

Maybe Arabs still have a certain amount of integrity.....consider Mossad
and ADL and the bribing of Clinton to release Marc Rich, or this
Jonathan Pollard who acted in a manner to turn the USA against Sadaam
Hussein?

And above all Remember the USS Liberty where our men died and the enemy
napalmed and bombed them while lying wounded on deck - that wasn't
exactly a fair fight was it - in International Waters?

Stop the welfare state of Israel and take them off our welfare rolls -
what are we doing supporting a religious state wa kid in the USA cannot
say a simple prayen school?

Saba



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                    EGYPT ARMING WHILE REGIME IS SHAKING

                             "What Has Happened To The World?"
                                                  Confused Egyptian Prison Guard

MID-EAST REALITIES � - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 6/20:
     Arab States, including Egypt, are arming at a growing pace.  Even combined they 
are still no match to defeat Israel.  But their detterence capabilities are growing, 
they might be able to seriously bloody Israel in years ahead, and this whole situation 
is one more factor propelling the Israeli Generals, foremost among them Ariel Sharon, 
to ponder the risks of a deadly strike now upon the Palestinians, even at the risk of 
regional war, rather than waiting for a day when the situation might be even more 
problematical and dangerous for them.
     At the same time the Mubarak Regime is showing growing signs of confusion and 
desperation..  For years the Egyptian intelligentsia remained silent as the Egyptian 
State used near barbaric means of ruthless suppression and torture against 
nationalists of Islamic orientation.  A police state of fear and lawlessness has come 
to characterize the underpinnings of the regime.  Now far milder but nevertheless 
severe repression has come to a prominent member of their own circles -- Saad Eddin 
Ibrahim -- and the message is clear to all that anyone who speaks up and opposes the 
regime should fear for the knock at the door.  As the New York Times article below 
suggests but does not say the Egyptian Secret Police and the Nazi Storm Trooers of 
yesteryear have very much in common -- and not just because S.S.I. is reminiscent of 
S.S.


                 EGYPT BUYS MISSILES FROM NORTH KOREA
 
                         By ELI J. LAKE and RICHARD SALE

WASHINGTON, June 18 (UPI) -- Questions about Egypt's efforts to acquire advanced 
missile technology from North Korea are likely to make the coming visit of Egyptian 
Foreign Minister Ahmad Maher el-Sayed's to Washington an awkward one, administration 
officials and intelligence sources said Monday.

Despite denials from Egyptian officials, including President Hosni Mubarak himself, 
the latest U.S. intelligence reports suggest Egypt is close to
obtaining the technology for the No Dong class missiles from North Korea, rockets with 
a range of 800 miles -- far greater than the best Scuds in the
Egyptian arsenal, which can travel at most 300 miles.

 A growing chorus of U.S. administration officials and lawmakers has privately raised 
concerns about Egypt renewing military ties with North
Korea, and the sources said the Bush administration is likely to press Maher al-Sayed 
on this issue.

 One U.S. intelligence official says recent reports estimate there are between 50 to 
300 North Korean technicians on the ground in Egypt already
working on the missile program. The source tells United Press International the 
Egyptians will have "wide exposure" to North Korean technology as a
result of the program.

 Another U.S. intelligence official tells UPI, "Egypt is pretty much going to get what 
Iran got" from the North Koreans. In Dec. 1993, Iran and North
Korea signed an agreement to build a production line capacity for the No Dong inside 
Iran, though that missile had only been tested in 1993 and
deployments were much later.

 In an interview Friday, Egypt's ambassador in Washington dismissed the allegations 
his country was trying to attain the missile technology. "The
allegations that we are developing a joint project with the North Koreans are false," 
Nabil Fahmy told UPI.

"We are denying the No Dong program." But other Washington analysts suspect things are 
different. Anthony Cordesman, the Arleigh Burke Chair for
Strategic Assessment at the Center for Strategic International Studies in Washington, 
said he has reason to believe the Egyptians are pursuing some
joint military projects with the North Korea.  "The missile I think they have been 
working on with North Korea is along the lines of the Scud class
with a range of about 500 kilometers (310 miles). But I've seen reports of more 
ambitious projects."

 North Korea has missile arrangements with Iran, Libya and Syria -- three states the 
U.S. considers sponsors of terrorism. But Egypt is regarded as
one of the leading American allies in the Arab world, and receives U.S. military aid 
approaching $1.3 billion a year.

 The issue of Cairo's interest in North Korea's missile program has surfaced in 
Washington just when the Bush administration has signaled its
intention of resuming bi-lateral contacts with Pyongyang that had been suspended in 
January when President Bush took office.

 Bush had stated publicly that the North Korean leadership could not be trusted as an 
interlocutor. But earlier this month, the administration
announced that it was prepared to resume talks on a broad range of issues including 
troop reduction in the demarcation zone separating the two Koreas, and halting 
Pyongyang's missile development. The North Koreans also agreed to a resumption of 
talks.

 Last Wednesday, Jack Pritchard, the U.S. envoy to the Korean peace talks met with the 
North Korea ambassador to the U.N., Li Hyong Chol, to discuss the modalities of 
further talks.

 Egypt's military relationship with North Korea goes back to the early 70s, when 
Pyongyang sent an air battalion to Egypt as a sign of solidarity in its
war with Israel in 1973.

 But the relationship intensified after then-President Anwar Sadat signed a peace 
treaty with Israel in 1978 -- angering Egypt's Soviet patrons. North
Korea stepped in to fill the gap by providing Egypt with much needed spare parts. 
Egypt's military museum in Cairo is alleged to have been designed by North Korean 
architects.

 The latest unclassified CIA report to Congress on the acquisition missile technology 
says, "Egypt continues its effort to develop and produce
ballistic missiles with the assistance of North Korea. This activity is part of a 
long-running program of ballistic missile cooperation between these two
countries."

 Ambassador Fahmy, however, dismisses the rather broad characterization, but confirms 
that there were such contacts five years ago. "The unclassified
report talks about stuff from five years ago, it was a limited program and that's 
where it stopped," he says.

 Still, Congress and the administration clearly need to be reassured.  Congressional 
sources tell UPI that when Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
visited Congress in March he told an informal group of House and Senate lawmakers that 
Egypt was trying to acquire advanced Scud class missiles from North Korea.

 Richard Murphy, former U.S. Middle East negotiator and senior Middle East Fellow with 
the Council on Foreign Relations warned "Not all intelligence reports are true." But 
he added, "if these reports are true, it could not provide Israel with a better excuse 
to use its own highy effective Jerico medium range missies."

 One House staff member told UPI, "Given the concerns about North Korea's activities 
in the proliferation of ballistic missiles and the fact that
theater missile defense was designed to counter that threat -- something like this 
does not help Egypt's image."

 Indeed, Egypt's new foreign minister will be arriving in Washington Wednesday when 
questions are being raised about the size of the $1.3 billion
annual U.S. military assistance package for Cairo.

 In budget hearings in May, Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., then the chairman of the 
Senate panel charged with appropriating the foreign aid budget
questioned Secretary of State Colin Powell on the size of the U.S. contribution to 
Egypt's military.

 Powell countered that he thought it to be a sound investment.  Other groups too, 
including Israel's powerful lobby in Washington, have privately
begun expressing similar reservations questions about military aid to Egypt, according 
to several Congressional staff members. The military assistance
package goes mainly for modernizing conventional forces liked armored and air 
divisions -- but not towards developing ballistic missiles.



  MUBARAK REGIME IS NOW ON TRIAL IN EGYPT
                   By MARY ANNE WEAVER
              
              [New York Times, 17 June]:
              Late one evening last summer, Saad Eddin
              Ibrahim, a prominent Egyptian-American
              civil rights advocate and one of the Arab
              world's leading social scientists, was working
              in his study - a spacious one, on a quiet,
              tree-lined street in the suburb of Maadi, one
              of Cairo's most fashionable neighborhoods.
              The room was bursting with books, stacks of
              papers, family photographs and half-finished
              cups of tea. On that particular evening, the
              61-year-old professor of sociology was alone
              in the house: his American-born wife,
              Barbara, was out of town; his son, Amir, was
              out with friends; and his daughter, Randa,
              was at her own home with her husband and
              Saad Eddin's second, recently born
              grandchild. It seemed unusually quiet, the
              professor thought to himself. Evening prayers
              had recently ended at the adjacent Victory
              College mosque, and the worshipers had left.
              With their departure, all noise, all sounds,
              seemed to have come to an end. 

              A partly bald and bearded man of medium
              height and build, and an outspoken proponent
              of his views, he ensconced himself on the sofa
              and began to read. He may have fallen
              asleep, or simply been deep in thought; he
              can't quite recall. Whichever it was, he
              gradually became aware of a persistent
              drumlike pounding on his front door. Sleepily,
              he made his way down to the entrance foyer,
              opened the door and was abruptly jolted
              completely awake. A dozen armed guards
              from State Security Investigation, or S.S.I.,
              stormed into the house, as 40 or so others
              cordoned it off. Some raided his study and
              eventually carted off scores of boxes of files
              and books, his computer - and the family
              safe. Others surrounded him. "Come with us,"
              one of them said. "Come with us. You're
              under arrest." 

              "I looked out of the door," Saad Eddin said a
              few weeks ago, as we sat in the open-air cafe
              of my Cairo hotel one late April afternoon. "It
              was like the siege of Stalingrad. Armored
              cars surrounded the house. Guards were
              posted everywhere. Why had so many
              people come to arrest one harmless
              intellectual? Why didn't they just make a
              phone call? I would have come." 

              It was a little before midnight when Saad
              Eddin Ibrahim was bundled into an armored
              car and driven about three miles, high above
              Cairo, into the Mokattam Hills to the Ibn
              Khaldun Center for Development Studies.
              Established by Saad Eddin 12 years before -
              and named for the great medieval Islamic
              scholar - the center had emerged as a leading
              exponent of democratic reform and
              intellectual freedom in the Arab world. 

              As the armored car continued to climb the
              sinuous mountain road, Saad Eddin glanced
              out of the window. "I could see the whole
              motorcade," he said. "There were at least 10
              cars ahead of me and another 10 behind:
              bright lights in the darkness. There are so
              many layers, so many conflicting images, in all
              of this, and it was that night that I first saw the
              contrast, the physical part - two starkly
              different images, one romantic, one harsh.
              Caravans in the desert, I thought, as I looked
              at the twinkling lights, or the carts of death, during the French 
Revolution, taking
              their victims to the guillotine." 

              It was June 30, the last day of the fiscal year, and Nadia Abdel Nour, 
the financial
              manager of the Ibn Khaldun Center, had worked late that night 
supervising the
              closing of the books. A genteel, attractive woman of 50 or so, with 
luminous dark
              eyes, she is a Sudanese refugee and the sole support of her large 
refugee family. At
              around 8 p.m., as she waited at a nearby bus stop, her neatly ordered 
world began
              to fall apart. 

              "They grabbed me from behind, blindfolded me, threw a bag over my head," 
she
              later said. She had no idea who they were. She was terrified. "I thought 
I was being
              kidnapped!" she said with a shudder. 

              "When we arrived at Ibn Khaldun, I found her there," Saad Eddin said. 
"She was
              outside the center. She was sobbing and shaking. She was still 
blindfolded. She had
              no idea where she was, or why." 

              As Saad Eddin and Nadia Abdel Nour watched in bewilderment, dozens of 
S.S.I.
              officers began tearing the Ibn Khaldun Center apart. Others surrounded 
the building,
              blocking all access roads. Still others took up positions around it, 
their automatic
              assault weapons drawn. Many of their faces were partly concealed by 
visored
              helmets, and it was impossible to know who they were. 

              All across Cairo that evening, lawyers and economists, students and 
social workers
              were arrested and taken off to high-security prisons. By the following 
week, 28
              officials and employees of the Ibn Khaldun Center, along with 
representatives of the
              League of Egyptian Women Voters, had been swept up. Most remained in 
prison
              for two months. During that time, not one of them - not even Saad Eddin 
Ibrahim -
              was charged. They were held under Egypt's draconian emergency laws, which
              President Hosni Mubarak has renewed every three years for the 20 years 
of his
              presidency. 

              It was nearly dawn when Saad Eddin Ibrahim and his 20-car security 
escort were
              ushered through the gates of S.S.I. headquarters -- where he was held 
through the
              following night. For 14 hours, Saad Eddin was interrogated about his 
work, his
              public lectures and his dozen or so books. Interrogators came and went 
from the
              windowless spartan room. Some were from the office of the public 
prosecutor,
              others from S.S.I. After that ordeal, he was transferred to the 
high-security section
              of the Tora prison complex in South Cairo, one of the country's most 
dreaded
              detention sites. He would spend six weeks there before being released on 
bail. 

              "My first interrogation ended at about 8 o'clock that night," Saad Eddin 
said. "It was
              just twilight when I arrived at Tora Mazra'at. An elderly, white-haired 
police
              corporal was sitting at a desk. He peered at me over his half-glasses: 
'Dr. Saad
              Eddin Ibrahim?' 

              "I thought he was reading a newspaper, but it was too early for that, 
and then he
              said: 'I'm Ali Hamdan. I was a private here 20 years ago, when you came 
to do
              research. It was a long time ago.' He paused for a moment and then he 
asked,
              'What has happened to the world?' 

              "I saw the human face of Egypt that night in this old man," Saad Eddin 
said.
              "Previously, I had seen the brutal face of the state. There have been so 
many faces
              of Egypt in all of this, so many threads. There I stood in handcuffs, 
and I had to
              comfort this old man." 


 
                     UP TO 300 N. KOREANS IN EGYPT FOR MISSILE PROGRAM

WASHINGTON �  World Tribune, 21 June:  Cairo is proceeding with plans to buy North 
Korean missile engines and up to 300 North Korean technicians are in Egypt for the 
missile program according to new intelligence reports.

The engines are for the No-Dong missiles, which has a range of between 1,000 and 1,300 
kilometers. 

The number of North Koreans are said to have increased over the last two years both in 
Egypt and in neighboring Libya. Much of Egyptian missile development is said to be 
taking place in Libya, Middle East Newsline reports. 

The latest intelligence reports, the officials said, undermine Egypt's credibility and 
some members of Congress are threatening to review all U.S. aid to Cairo unless the No 
Dong sale is terminated. The issue was raised last month by then chairman of the 
Senate Appropriations subcommittee Sen. Mitch McConnell, a Republican from Kentucky. 

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmad Maher has arrived to a frosty welcome from the Bush 
administration and Congress due to the reports that Cairo has accelerated cooperation 
with North Korea in the development of intermediate-range weapons. 

Maher is scheduled to meet U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell today and National 
Security Council Adviser Condoleezza Rice and congressional leaders on June 22. This 
is his first official visit to the United States since he became foreign minister. 

Officials said Egypt has pledged that it does not cooperate with North Korea and said 
some of Washington's allegations refer to cooperation that ended in 1996. 

Still, Maher will not be extensively questioned regarding the North Korean missile 
sale. U.S. officials said Maher, who assumed office last month, is not regarded as the 
right address for such concerns by Washington. 

Instead, the officials said, the issue will be raised when Egyptian Defense Minister 
Hussein Tantawi arrives in Washington later this year. Tantawi is expected to discuss 
Egyptian request for F-16s and other U.S. weapons. 



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