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goolie smith wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> ah nurev, nurev, nurev dont tell me your going to start personal
> attacks against me.
>
> Yes i did read the second part, the disscussion here is on Ariel Sharon not
> the syrians or the phalange or any other group. If you would like we could
> discuss that on another thread, but this thread has the topic of "Sharon War
> Criminal".
No. The subject is - Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible Liberals
and Palestinian propaganda. 1/2
Which means that the information you describe below is Palestinian
disinformation.
>
> The fact remains that Ariel Sharon did not do enough to stop people that he
> was in charge of being killed. On the contrary the IDF threw flares all
> through the night to help light the way for the phalange.
If you did read part 2, then you would have information from an actual
participant at a very high level. Not from Palestinians who are disregarding
the killers in order to win political points in their current political
contest with Israel and Sharon.
Read again why why the Israelis threw up flares. The conclusion you came to
was the opposite of what the eyewitness and perpetrator says. Since you weren't
actually there, you make your choice of what is real and what is not
based on your first exposure which is all based on Palestinian disinformation.
>
> There is substantial evidence to call for Sharon to be tried in front of an
> International court. As was said on the BBC programme.
>
Maybe yes, and maybe no. But there is MORE evidence to try the actual
killers. My problem with you is that you are at best backing the wrong horse.
Do you really want to bring the massacre to a just conclusion or is it
really about something else.
I know the answer to that. Do you?
>
>
> Arafat? I personaly think he is a bad apple and he could be up for some very
> nasty crimes, however im not sure if war crimes are one of them.
Well then why don't you learn about the history of PLO in Southern Lebanon.
Then you won't have much doubt whether war crimes are an issue.
> Maybe you
> could enligten me. I would prefer though that you did this on another thread,
> as i said before the subject of this disscussion is Ariel Sharon.
>
Sabra and Shatila are being used as a weapon to punish Sharon for invading
Lebanon and throwing out the PLO. The problem is that he was not responsible
for the massacre AT ALL. He gave direct orders to the Phalangists not to
harm the non-combatants. He had know way of knowing that the commander of
the Phalangists that he gave those orders to was an agent of Syrian Intelligence
and that he used the opportunity to create a situation of such horror that
it would cover over the assassination of the Elected President of Lebanon by
the Syrians who always considered Lebanon a part of Syria.
This is known to the Palestinians. The Hamas article in part 2 proves it.
The best thing that could happen is that Sharon should open the case and
bring in the evidence and the perps. But that won't happen. No head of state
can be forced to trial like this. The Palestinians know this as well. So now
we will have a PR war in the media at a time of real crisis in the Middle
East.
But is interesting to watch what people choose to believe.
Joshua2
> >-Caveat Lector-
> >
> >goolie smith wrote:
> > >
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > >He did not commit THAT war crime.
> > >
> > > oh really he did not commit that crime ?
> > >
> > > was Sharon the man in charge of that area ? the answer is yes he was.
> > >
> > > according to Geneva conventions and International law the person in charge
> is
> > > the one responsible when the land is occupied by a forigen force. Even
> though
> > > he did not do it himself, the safety of civilians and militray personal
> > > arrested are his responsibiliity.
> > >
> >
> >Did you bother to read part2 of what I posted or do you just like
> >going in circles?
> >
> >Sharon gave orders to protect non-combatants. This from one of the men
> >who did the killing.
> >
> >Did you read what Hamas said?
> >
> >By the way, do you think that Arafat is a war criminal?
> >
> >J2
> >
> > > >There will ALWAYS be war crimes in war. ALWAYS!!!! The solution is >to
> not
> > > allow wars to get started.
> > >
> > > yes that is true, but once the crime has been committed the perpetrator
> should
> > > bd brought to trial and punished for his crimes.
> > >
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