-Caveat Lector- <sigh> ok, give me the answers to these questions Was Ariel Sharon in command of the occupied area where the massacres took place ? Is there a Geneva convention (4th) which places responsibility of a population upon the person in charge ? Are you jewish ? These questions should sort it out, the first two will show why sharon should be indicted as a war criminal, the last one will show the rest of us why you dont want to see the truth. >From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: >StupidgullibleLiberalsandPalestinianpropaganda. 1/2 >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:53:30 -0400 > >-Caveat Lector- > >goolie smith wrote: > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > ah nurev, nurev, nurev dont tell me your going to start personal > > attacks against me. > > > > Yes i did read the second part, the disscussion here is on Ariel Sharon >not > > the syrians or the phalange or any other group. If you would like we >could > > discuss that on another thread, but this thread has the topic of "Sharon >War > > Criminal". > >No. The subject is - Re: [CTRL] Sharon War Criminal: Stupid gullible >Liberals >and Palestinian propaganda. 1/2 > >Which means that the information you describe below is Palestinian >disinformation. > > > > > The fact remains that Ariel Sharon did not do enough to stop people that >he > > was in charge of being killed. On the contrary the IDF threw flares all > > through the night to help light the way for the phalange. > >If you did read part 2, then you would have information from an actual >participant at a very high level. Not from Palestinians who are >disregarding >the killers in order to win political points in their current political >contest with Israel and Sharon. > >Read again why why the Israelis threw up flares. The conclusion you came to >was the opposite of what the eyewitness and perpetrator says. Since you >weren't >actually there, you make your choice of what is real and what is not >based on your first exposure which is all based on Palestinian >disinformation. > > > > > There is substantial evidence to call for Sharon to be tried in front of >an > > International court. As was said on the BBC programme. > > > >Maybe yes, and maybe no. But there is MORE evidence to try the actual >killers. My problem with you is that you are at best backing the wrong >horse. >Do you really want to bring the massacre to a just conclusion or is it >really about something else. > >I know the answer to that. Do you? > > > > > > > Arafat? I personaly think he is a bad apple and he could be up for some >very > > nasty crimes, however im not sure if war crimes are one of them. > >Well then why don't you learn about the history of PLO in Southern Lebanon. >Then you won't have much doubt whether war crimes are an issue. > > > Maybe you > > could enligten me. I would prefer though that you did this on another >thread, > > as i said before the subject of this disscussion is Ariel Sharon. > > > >Sabra and Shatila are being used as a weapon to punish Sharon for invading >Lebanon and throwing out the PLO. The problem is that he was not >responsible >for the massacre AT ALL. He gave direct orders to the Phalangists not to >harm the non-combatants. He had know way of knowing that the commander of >the Phalangists that he gave those orders to was an agent of Syrian >Intelligence >and that he used the opportunity to create a situation of such horror that >it would cover over the assassination of the Elected President of Lebanon >by >the Syrians who always considered Lebanon a part of Syria. > >This is known to the Palestinians. The Hamas article in part 2 proves it. > >The best thing that could happen is that Sharon should open the case and >bring in the evidence and the perps. But that won't happen. No head of >state >can be forced to trial like this. The Palestinians know this as well. So >now >we will have a PR war in the media at a time of real crisis in the Middle >East. > >But is interesting to watch what people choose to believe. > >Joshua2 > > > >-Caveat Lector- > > > > > >goolie smith wrote: > > > > > > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > > > > > >He did not commit THAT war crime. > > > > > > > > oh really he did not commit that crime ? > > > > > > > > was Sharon the man in charge of that area ? the answer is yes he >was. > > > > > > > > according to Geneva conventions and International law the person in >charge > > is > > > > the one responsible when the land is occupied by a forigen force. >Even > > though > > > > he did not do it himself, the safety of civilians and militray >personal > > > > arrested are his responsibiliity. > > > > > > > > > >Did you bother to read part2 of what I posted or do you just like > > >going in circles? > > > > > >Sharon gave orders to protect non-combatants. This from one of the men > > >who did the killing. > > > > > >Did you read what Hamas said? > > > > > >By the way, do you think that Arafat is a war criminal? > > > > > >J2 > > > > > > > >There will ALWAYS be war crimes in war. ALWAYS!!!! The solution is > >to > > not > > > > allow wars to get started. > > > > > > > > yes that is true, but once the crime has been committed the >perpetrator > > should > > > > bd brought to trial and punished for his crimes. > > > > > ><A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> >DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER >========== >CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing >propagandic >screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! 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