-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/6/24/52023 NewsMax Sunday June 24, 2001; 6:17 a.m. EDT Rogergate Partners Had Inside Impeachment Info, Says Accuser The one-time business partners of former first brother Roger Clinton had inside information about President Clinton's impeachment that seemed to bolster claims they had influence with the White House, key Pardongate witness Garland Lincecum said from his White Plains, New York jail cell on Friday. In a taped interview set for broadcast Sunday night and shared exclusively with NewsMax.com late Saturday, Lincecum told WABC radio hosts John Batchelor and Paul Alexander that while he was negotiating payments for his pardon with Clinton's business partners Dickey Morton and George Locke in late 1998 and early 1999, the two men made detailed predictions about Clinton's impeachment and subsequent Senate trial that always seemed to come true. Lincecum's mother and brother Alberta and Guy wiped out their savings to pay Roger Clinton's company, CLM LLC, $235,000 to secure his freedom. His allegations, first reported by Batchelor and Alexander on Feb. 26, prompted U.S. Attorney for New York's Southern District Mary Jo White to commence a full blown criminal probe two weeks later. On June 6, prosecutors brought Garland Lincecum to New York to testify before White's grand jury. The uncanny ability of Roger Clinton's business partners to fortell the course of President Clinton's impeachment stunned Lincecum, he said Friday, and the convincing specifics they offered led him to believe that Roger Clinton had access to information about secret dealings at the highest levels of the White House. "Before the impeachment, Dickey (Morton) and the senator (former Arkansas state senator George Locke) were able to confirm exactly what was going to happen each day -- before it happened!," Lincecum said. Lincecum said Morton and Locke's apparent insider information included specific predictions about "how the votes were going to go" and Clinton's decision not to resign under any circumstances. Some of the information was so intricate Lincecum could no longer recall the details. The key Pardongate witness had a lot riding on President Clinton's ability to survive in office; specifically the $235,000 his family had ponied up to pay the first brother's company. Roger's business partners assured Lincecum that Clinton was not going to be removed from office. But if by some quirk of fate that happened, Vice President Al Gore would honor the deal. Here's one revealing exchange between Lincecum and the two radio hosts: BATCHELOR: Dickey Morton is speaking, you presume, with Roger regularly. GARLAND LINCECUM: That's correct. BATCHELOR: And Roger's boasting about his information at the White House, about the president's state of mind, the president's tactics. GARLAND LINCECUM: That's correct. ALEXANDER: And what the (impeachment) votes are going to be? GARLAND LINCECUM: Right down to the -- they called it almost to the vote...... BATCHELOR: Now in January, the Senate trial, did they also tell you how the Senate trial was going to go? GARLAND LINCECUM: Yeah, right to the vote. ALEXANDER: Right to the vote. So you're sitting there watching (the trial) and these guys have direct access into the White House? GARLAND LINCECUM: That's what it appeared to be. BATCHELOR: And after the president was found not guilty, that is he wasn't removed from office by the Senate, what were their remarks? GARLAND LINCECUM: Basically it was sort of like, "Well, I told you so." Apart from impeachment, other developments suggested that the CLM business partners had close White House ties. Lincecum said one day in 1998 that Morton called him from China, where he was traveling with Roger Clinton. "He said that they were dealing with the fourth most powerful man in China (and) that they could get anything (into America) they wanted," Lincecum said, explaining that CLM was interested at the time in importing building materials from China. During the phone call "they intimated that they were going to use the president's power" to smooth the way for the import scheme, he added. "One time they talked about bringing in oil from Russia, also," said the key Pardongate witness. "I said that many people had tried to get oil in from Russia and there's been a lot of difficulty with it. They said, 'That's no problem. We will have the situation -- there won't be a problem at all.'" Roger Clinton, a Russian oil connection? Bizarre stuff indeed. Or maybe not. This exchange between Roger and Larry King Thursday night actually reveals that the former first brother planned to travel to Russia as late as this past February. The subject came up while King was discussing Clinton's Feb. 21, 2001 DUI bust in Hermosa Beach, California. KING: Were you drinking and driving? ROGER C.: No, sir. Well, let me clarify that: I was not legally drunk and driving. I had had about two beers, two Coors Lites. Maybe two. Maybe two. I had been out an hour. I was leaving for flippin' Russia the next morning..... KING: They ran a test? I mean, what did they do to you? ROGER C.: Let me tell you first off -- without mentioning my friend's name, because his name will certainly come up anyway -- but I was with a friend of mine, that we were going to get up the next morning and watch basketball before I had to go to Russia. King never asked Roger why he was traveling to Russia a month after his brother had left the White House, let alone in the dead of the harsh Russian winter. But given Garland Lincecum's claims to Batchelor & Alexander that CLM was involved in Russian oil, it's a question prosecutors need to ask. 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