-Caveat Lector- Make that 200,000 dead in the Bosnian conflict. Not 2 million. Anger at the keyboard made me add a zero! M.P. Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Fw: Serbian Nazis > > Obraz. Who make no bones of it...And on Seselj et. al. > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Serb+Radical+Party+seselj > > The Radical Right in Yugoslavia: Srpska Radikalna Stranka ( ... > > ... Logo English name Serb Radical Party Party leader Vojislav Seselj > > (resigned on > > Sept. 25, 2000, after the weak performance of the SRS in the presidential > > ... > > www.users.belgacom.net/radicalright/yugosl.htm > > ... in the Niksic brigade, in agreement with Dr. Vojislav Seselj he took > > over the organization > > of the Serb Radical Party in Srpska. In March 1993, at the Serb ... > > www.cdsp.neu.edu/info/students/marko/velsrb/velsrb1.html > > ... TRYING TO DO? GUY DINMORE UNEARTHS A RADICAL SERB DOCUMENT, Vojislav > > Seselj - popular > > but out of office when his party published the 'Kosovo Solution' in August > > ... > > www.megastories.com/kosovo/plan/radical.htm > > White Eagles Serbian Radical Party [SRS] > > (White Eagles were a particularly vicious, paramilitary formation deployed > > in the Bosnian conflict [from '92-'95 200,000dead) and the rump Republica > > Srpska of psychiatrist/poet of the > > the wild hairstyle, Dr. Radovan Karazdic. M.P.) > > .. war in Bosnian. Serbian Radical > > Party [SRS] Chairman Vojislav Seselj [who was appointed ... > > www.fas.org/irp/world/para/white_eagles.htm > > ... of Socialist People’s Party Momir Bulatovic reached with Vojislav > Seselj > > from Serb > > Radical Party and Mira Markovic, President of Yugoslav Left > > (party of the "Red Bourgeoisie" leaders profitted massively from skimming > > off profits from de-nationalized state property during the Miklosevic > yrs.) > > on forming of a ... > > www.medijaklub.cg.yu/eng/news/archive/2000/april/07index.htm > > > > Michael Pugliese > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael Pugliese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lbo" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:00 AM > > > Subject: Re:gay-bashing Serb nationalists > > > > > > > > > > The cjb.net domain hosts these Serbian skinhead fascists. The > > American > > > > Front post from one of the Third Position lists I lurk on mentions > one. > > > > I have a hunch that those BBC pix, had some cadre of the Serbian > > Radical > > > > Party of V. Seselj, a coalition partner and para-military adjunct of > > > > Milosevic, Mladic and Karazdic in Bosnia and the rump Republica > > Srpspska, > > > in > > > > their killing sprees. > > > > And this group called Obraz, (Dignity), see this from the SF > > Chronicle. > > > > Michael Pugliese > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/04/18 > > > > /MN152779.DTL > > > > > > > > Racism defies Serbian democracy > > > > Violence grows despite change in leadership > > > > Joshua Kucera, Chronicle Foreign Service > > > > Wednesday, April 18, 2001 > > > > ©2001 San Francisco Chronicle > > > > > > > > Belgrade, Yugoslavia -- Despite its reputation as a hotbed of > > nationalism, > > > > Serbia has not been known for racism and intolerance of the sort that > > has > > > > plagued neighbors like Croatia, Hungary and Germany. > > > > > > > > But recent incidents of skinhead-style violence and intimidation > suggest > > > > that an organized, extreme right-wing movement may be emerging. > > > > > > > > Organizations that document racist incidents have noticed a rise in > the > > > past > > > > few months in attacks against Roma, also known as Gypsies, and ethnic > > > > Albanians. > > > > > > > > And within the space of a few days, stickers with swastikas were > placed > > at > > > > Belgrade's Jewish cemetery, a synagogue and an art gallery housing a > > photo > > > > exhibition about Roma. In northern Serbia, vandals broke a plaque > > > > commemorating the site of the former synagogue in Zrenjanin and > painted > > a > > > > swastika on a similar plaque in Kikinda. > > > > > > > > "In the last two to three months, there has been some sort of > > > > synchronization of these actions and that's what's really dangerous," > > said > > > > Igor Olujic, a lawyer at the Humanitarian Law Center in Belgrade, who > > has > > > > been documenting the incidents. > > > > > > > > "It's not open violence, but I'm afraid it could be the beginning of a > > > neo- > > > > Nazi movement," he added. > > > > > > > > The incidents have occurred against the disturbing backdrop of the > rise > > of > > > > Obraz (Dignity), a group of hard-core nationalists that says it has > more > > > > than 20,000 members. > > > > > > > > Obraz says it has no connection with the attacks or the stickers, but > > its > > > > rhetoric -- including a Web page called Letter to Our Enemies that > rails > > > > against Jews, gays, Croats, Albanians and several other groups -- is > > seen > > > as > > > > the intellectual support for racist violence. > > > > > > > > "It's a racist group, no doubt about it," said Olujic, adding that > Obraz > > > may > > > > be vulnerable to prosecution under Serbia's law against inciting > racial > > > > hatred. > > > > > > > > "There always was a latent anti-Semitism, but never as blatant as > this," > > > > said Aca Singer, president of the Federation of Jewish Communities in > > > > Yugoslavia. > > > > > > > > Olujic remembers seeing skinheads as he grew up in Belgrade in the > > 1980s. > > > > "They were racists," he said, "but didn't do much except sit outside > and > > > > drink beer in their military pants and Spitfire jackets." > > > > > > > > The 1990s, however, brought in a new generation that grew up awash in > > > images > > > > of war and nationalist rhetoric orchestrated by former President > > Slobodan > > > > Milosevic. "These kinds of ideas have had an effect on young people," > > > Olujic > > > > said. > > > > > > > > The miserable economic situation brought about by sanctions, ruinous > > > central > > > > planning and the 1999 NATO bombing have left many young people feeling > > > > hopeless. The inability to travel abroad has narrowed their > > perspectives, > > > > and the Internet has helped them discover hate groups in other > > countries. > > > > > > > > "Because they don't have anything else, they start to believe in > this," > > > > Olujic said. "They have a very bad economic situation and they don't > > know > > > > who is to blame, so they tell themselves that it's the Roma, the Jews, > > the > > > > Croats or the Albanians." > > > > > > > > In Belgrade early last month, a group of about 15 skinheads attacked a > > > tram > > > > with several Roma families in it, hitting them with bottles and rocks > > and > > > > singing anti-Roma songs. > > > > > > > > A few days later, a group of three Serbians broke the window of a > pastry > > > > shop owned by ethnic Albanians in a northern Serbian town and then > > > attacked > > > > the owner and his son, shouting "What are you Shiptars doing in Kosovo > > and > > > > Macedonia killing?" (Shiptar is a derogatory word for Albanians.) > > > > > > > > 'FREEDOM TO ATTACK' > > > > > > > > Ironically, the incidents are becoming more prominent just as the new > > > > democratic government led by President Vojislav Kostunica has come to > > > power. > > > > > > > > "Maybe people think they received their freedom to attack others," > said > > > > Singer of the Jewish Federation. > > > > > > > > Obraz has deliberately increased its presence since the new government > > > took > > > > over, said the group's president, Nebojsa Krstic. > > > > > > > > Although Krstic said he voted for Kostunica -- a strong nationalist -- > > he > > > > strongly objects to more liberal elements of the ruling coalition, > whom > > he > > > > calls false patriots. He said Obraz will eventually field its own > > > candidates > > > > for political office, and he considers Obraz an ideological kin to > > > Britain's > > > > Conservative Party. > > > > > > > > The group has established a foothold at Belgrade University, where > > > > professors and students have become members, and Obraz stickers are a > > > common > > > > sight. > > > > > > > > "We just like our people and our country. We don't hate anybody," said > > one > > > > student, 22-year-old Bojan Vicentic. "But we want to defend ourselves > if > > > we > > > > are in danger." > > > > > > > > > > > > BUILDING PARANOIA > > > > Throughout the 1990s, Milosevic cultivated Serbians' paranoia that the > > > > entire world was arrayed against them, creating conditions for racist > > > groups > > > > to take root, said Dragan Popadic, a professor of social psychology at > > > > Belgrade University. > > > > > > > > "The main problem is not the frequency of these events but the > > > indifference > > > > of society toward them," he said. "After all these wars, we were > > > > desensitized to hate speech, and now we can't recognize it." > > > > > > > > Popadic said the Kostunica administration, which contains many strong > > > > nationalists, has abetted the trend by not making clear that an > > acceptable > > > > form of patriotism does not include attacks on others. > > > > > > > > "I don't think (members of the government) perceive these (racist) > ideas > > > as > > > > their own, but they think it's not too important and . . . don't see > it > > as > > > > being as dangerous as they should," he said. > > > > > > > > Singer said he has noticed some small changes since Kostunica took > over. > > > > During the last decade, Singer met several times with Milosevic, who > > > > promised to do what he could to stop sporadic anti-Semitic incidents > but > > > > never publicly denounced them. > > > > > > > > But after the recent anti-Semitic stickers were discovered, Kostunica > > > > condemned the actions and apologized on behalf of the Serbian people. > > > > > > > > 'REMNANT OF A REMNANT' > > > > > > > > Serbia's Jews are now just "a remnant of a remnant," those left over > > after > > > > the Holocaust and a mass migration to Israel, Singer said. > > > > > > > > "For the moment, I don't see any danger for the few thousand Jews > living > > > > here. But if this continues, we don't know what will happen." > > > > > > > > Yugoslavia's police and judicial system are slowly learning to > recognize > > > and > > > > prosecute racist crimes, Olujic said. In the southern city of Nis, two > > > > skinhead Serbians are being tried in the attack on a Roma teenager. > For > > > the > > > > first time in Yugoslav legal history, the two are being prosecuted > under > > > the > > > > law against inciting racial hatred. > > > > > > > > Olujic said most young people who adopt the skinhead pose do so > because > > it > > > > is fashionable, and they will be scared off if they think they could > go > > to > > > > jail. But if the state and society continue to turn a blind eye to > > racism, > > > > he said, a movement similar to that in eastern Germany could arise. > > > > > > > > > > > > ©2001 San Francisco Chronicle Page A - 12 > > > > > > > > >Message: 1 > > > > > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 06:59:40 -0000 > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Subject: Nathan Pett > > > > > > > > > >This is to inform all Hammerskins of this snitch and traitor Nathan > > > > >Zorn Pett of Wot. He has snitched off at least two individuals. One > > > > >being Michael Boyd of texas in 1996 and the second Hendik MOebus of > > > > >Germany who came to live with him in Spokane last year. Once they had > > > > >a dispute and Hendrik moved out to WV Nate decided to send the Us > > > > >Marshalls Hendrik's way. Funny how the warrant was issued in Spokane > > > > >as it was issued from Louisiana where Pett resided at the time. This > > > > >shitsandwitch claimed and is claiming to have ties with CHS and NHS. > > > > >a For the sake of my white brothers I must warn all involved. All > > > > >snitches should be booted ** *** *****...**** *** **** ** ******** If > > > > >he thinks a month in a coma is something > > > > >**********************************I am currently to far away to carry > > > > >out *********************Many of my fellow brothers > > > > >*********************and I suggest unless you want to be the > > > > >*************************that all in assocaition disassocaite > > > > >immediately. To read more about these incidences go to the > > > > >Nationalist Observer site or check out > > > > >www.paganfront.org****************************I felt that this was > > > > >important to bring to everyones attention cause there is nothing > > > > >lower than a snitching race traitor. He baragined with the cop > > > > >otherwise he would have went down for harboring an internatinal > > > > >fugitive. Originally he had helped Hendrik, but as stated when the > > > > >difference of opinion came about so did other treacherous things > > > > >transpire. Look at the facts as I have seen 30 pages of documented > > > > >proof which is as legitimate as it gets. For all Patriots interested > > > > >in ********** ************************he can be found at: 8451 > > > > >Wallbridge > > > > >Clayton, Wa 99110 > > > > >USA > > > > >************************By the way RAC bands and Hammerskin bands > > > > >should check out this site at:www.hakenkreuz88.cjb.net and click on > > > > >the Iron Eagle Division link as this label is looking for bands to > > > > >put on their "Smashing the Traitors" compilation featuring Nate Zorn > > > > >Pett's face on the cover being shot by SS soldiers.. The compilation > > > > >is a strong in your face attack on race traitors and snitches.. All > > > > >interested parties contact Iron Eagle Division at: > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Thank you my Aryan brothers and sisters...SIEG HEIL!!!!!88 > > > > >HAMMERS HIGH > > > > > > > > > >NOTE FROM ADMINISTRATORS: > > > > >WHILE SENTIMENTS LIKE THIS ARE APPRECIATED,I AM REMINDING ALL TO > > > > >PLEASE POST RESPONSIBLY.HSN DOES NOT ALLOW THE POSTING OF ANY ILLEGAL > > > > >ACTS,THREATS,ETC,ETC,ON THIS BOARD.PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A > > > > >MONITORED PUBLIC FORUM. THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION. > > > > >AMY > > > > > > > > > >[This message has been edited by dixiechs88 (edited 05-04-2001).] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! 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