-Caveat Lector-

No, J2, they were NOT all Poles and Slavs.  But then no one counts
except the Jews who were killed, at least not for much to some.
And that may be YOUR 'real' question but it does not address what
is being done right NOW concerning this DEMAND for records and the
CURRENT smear campaign.  Are you stating that this is justified as
some sort of vengeance?  Then why was this undertaken with the EVIL
Vatican in the first place?

I have read everything that you have stated many times before but
not even YOUR stating it makes me 'know' it.  I do think there is
some truth in what you say happened but as for your wild
accusations that Hitler was a Catholic, etc. that is your opinion
only and really not possible.  He may have been reared a Catholic
but that does not mean me was one until his death for there are
conditions involved which you choose to ignore. I believe mass
killings would be sufficient to get one excommunicated.  That means
one is no longer a Catholic, doesn't it? I also do not think Hitler
was under the control of the Pope at the time, either.  Are you
suggesting that he was? Or that the Pope had powers grater than all
the Allied forces?  That he could have some how stopped it all but
refused because he was 'in on it' and approved?   As for your
'revenge' philosophy, remember not all religions are centered
around that principle. It is well known that the Vatican was
involved in various people escaping Germany after WWII.  What is to
hide?  Is this information the REAL reason for the Jewish
participation in this project?  To find out any details on what may
have been done to any Jews and Jews only?

Your comments demonstrate perfectly the one-sided perception of the
problem.  It was to have been a JOINT effort directed at the crimes
committed against BOTH Catholics and Jews and others.  Nothing was
being 'hidden' and I think, unlike you, that the deaths of
Catholics and many others were just as much a crime as the deaths
of Jews.  The Vatican does not have to share anything and I
certainly hope that they will not until all life lost in the
Holocaust is shown equal respect.  It is the current Pope and not
Pius under attack.  One Pope is as good as another to blame, eh?
~Amelia~


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Vatican speaks out against Holocaust panel's
'slanderouscampaign'


-Caveat Lector-

No they didn't count because they were slavs and Poles. But Germany
was at least half Catholic, and Austria was all Catholic. And
Hitler
was also Catholic.

Is the Pope Catholic???

>  Those demanding so much respect for their own
> religion might start by showing some for the religion of others.

Pius was a Nazi and an admirer of Hitler. He helped finance the
party
early on. He also helped set up the Ustasha regime in Catholic
Croatia
where a high ranking Bishop ran the death camps and murdered a
million
Serbs, tens of thousands of Jews, mand thousands of Gypsies.

The ' polite ' question is whether Pius 12 " did enough " to save
the
Jews in Christian Europe." The real thing the Vatican is hiding is
its
complcitiy in the Holocaust, and it's direct action in helping
known Nazi
war criminals escape justice through the Rat Line.

Just thought you'd like to know.

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