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On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Amelia wrote:
>No, June, I am saying this sort of behavior transcends political
>and religious affiliation and is more typical of the human
>condition than a particular belief system. YOU are the one trying
>to make it a conservative trait when we have just all witnessed a
>liberal in the White House pull this routine repeatedly. It is
>YOUR political agenda showing and no, it is not the facts.
Once again you seem to have missed the point that I am referring to
someone of my PERSONAL acquaintance...'political agenda' has nothing to
do with it (and in fact I tend towards conservatism on most issues)...
>My own life experience is that I have known more liberals who
>behaved in this manner and claimed that they were entitled to do so
>as it was between two consenting adults, and no one was hurt, etc.
That is a far cry from behaving 'in this manner' but giving lipservice to
it being wrong, putting on a veneer of conservatism, 'family values', and
'born again Christianity', but continually engaging in such behaviors
because the person claims that their periodic acts of 'contrition' --
acts which only come about when they're found out -- in which they
suddenly refind Jesus and ask forgiveness of Him -- wipes everything
clean and magically sets everything right...
That would be fine if the person was SINCERE in their contrition -- but
they continually demonstrate their insincerity by continually repeating
the offensive behavior...there is no REAL change of heart or attempt at
redemption, only the claim that since they 'know' that Jesus has forgiven
them, so should everyone else -- meaning no one should expect the
offending person to have to actually pay any significant consequences for
their offense....
That is very different than what you claim liberals do, dismiss such
behavior as just being between consenting adults and that no one was
hurt....liberals don't put on the veneer of religiosity and 'family
values' and claim that because they prayed to Jesus (prayers only brought
about due to the offending person being found out and a demand made that
they pay the consequences of such actions) that everything then should
just be forgotten and no one should then expect the offending person to
pay any consequences...
As I said, I personally know someone who plays this game -- claims to be
such a good Christian, a conservative who periodically runs for office on
'family values' -- yet he continually lies, cheats, and I wouldn't be
surprised to find out he may steal, all because on the occasions the cat
has gotten out of the bag he suddenly refinds Jesus, goes running to his
church and gets down on his knees with his minister and they both pray to
Jesus asking His forgiveness for this man I know...who then claims that
because he prayed to Jesus and he 'knows' Jesus has forgiven him, then
that means everyone else should, too -- meaning that no one should expect
him to pay any consequences, to make any amends, for his previous
behavior...
And he then merrily goes on his way, and repeats the offensive behavior,
never once getting down on his knees and praying to Jesus until the next
time he is found out...
And according to the article which started this all, that's exactly what
Condit and his minister father have done...the elder Condit is claiming
that since his son has now prayed to Jesus for forgiveness, that everyone
else should just forget about what he has done -- especially his
constituents, who the elder Condit seems to feel should automatically
reelect his son because his son supposedly has 'repented'...
Even if Gary Condit sincerely HAS repented -- a big 'if', which seems
unlikely, given his continual wafflings and equivocating on the subject
-- he ignores the fact that repenting in and of itself does not free one
of having to pay the consequences...
If it did, then every convicted murderer who claims to be sorry for what
they did should be released from Death Row...
June
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