-Caveat Lector- > > This assumes morality can not be divorced from religion, which is totally > incorrect... > > It is wrong to kill people in all instances? In some instances? > God (the Christian one anyway) had a bunch of kids mauled for making fun of > a bald priest. Really? Did God tell you he did this? If you discovered God is unknowable how then did you discover what God knows? So his morality should be questioned anyway. He also seemed > to have no problem with people killing the enemies of their nation in war. > I'm an agnostic, and I believe war is immoral. I do not believe an eye for > an eye is a moral law, therefore I am against the death penalty. And yet sadly you still haven't been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize > Why are these things wrong? Well, it sure ain't because God said so...if > anything it comes down to the categorical imperative, or the golden rule if > you will... > What would happen if everyone acted this way? Would you want people to > treat you this way? The pale Galilean covered that as did Hillel > My morals come from empathy. I know right from wrong, because I can put > myself in the other guys shoes. I know it is wrong to hurt people, well, > because it hurts when people hurt me...God doesn't have to tell me that, I > have a brain and can figure it out... Wow you did that all by your lonesome? You should consider donating said grey matter to Harvard after you pass on to the great unknown - which in your case, being an agnostic, really IS unknown isn't it? > Maybe you need the fear of Hell to make you into a good person, I don't fear Hell and I've never staked any claim to being a 'good person' > I do not, > and I resent the implication that I do. I never made any such implication - maybe the writer of the article did but she and I are two separate and distinct corporeal entities and you ought neither confuse nor fuse the pair. > (By the way, I was raised Methodist, it was years later, after doing some of > my own research that I decided even if God exists, he is completely > unknowable, and thus agnosticism is the only solution for a rational mind... > oh and to respond to part II while I am here, if you read a little > Descartes, a little Hume, and a few others, the idea of no absolute truth is > not only rational, but the only thing that really makes sense) I was raised athiest and after doing some of my own research determined that Kierkegaard had it spot on lad so I took a big irrational leap into something rather than nothing. As for the philosophes, I've read them. As for the opinion in re absolute truth and rationality and/or irrationality, it was not mine. Please stop conflating the author of the article's opinions with my own. And as long as we're recommending writers read a little Paul Tillich, a little Gabriel Marcel or a little Martin Buber. > > Mike Switzer > Rambler, Philosopher, Musician, and Crank... > www.hichouston.org > > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'�with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds�is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
