-Caveat Lector- ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:07:51 -0700 Subject: 400 years spy vs. spy. 400 years spy vs. spy. http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=7464 "Round and around and around we go, where the world's heading, nobody knows-ball of confusion-"(the Undisputed Truth) What is New Netizen? Is it a citizen of an on-line state, is it an Attitude or is it a Morale? Identification of your self with names is not a matter of course. Before you know it you are caught up in the entelechy of a name. The Net is New, for sure. It is also, still, a symbol of freedom, whatever agencies bottleneck the net for their gracious supervision. Citizenship on the net is borderless, and as more and more people can afford it, increases the breaking of boundaries. The state beyond states, I mean our collective conscience on the Net in contrast to a state of covert government, is an abstract sovereignty coming forth into the information age, or the age of the senses. The medium is the message, and the Net is saying:' to free or not to free'. Who can free whom? According to Parliament-Funkadelic someone who's truly free,' is free of the need to be free'. According to the Intel community, 'the truth shall set you free.' As a New Netizen, a Burgher of Collective Conscience, we wish to safeguard the ideas we cultivate, to refine our knowledge by surfing for new opinions or old truths. We have the archetypes of every ancient to modern city on the Net, the village idiot, the trickster, clairvoyant and adventurer. Shops, factories, guilds and councils, but especially, and that is what we want to guard our ideas from, the sorcerer and the priest. They have fought from Methusalem to Microsoft, wars and polemics, each trying to prove themselves right, always ending with in conclusion. To guard our ideas from this struggle, this new medium, the Net should be spared the rape on book printing committed by the (counter) reformation. What we call a conspiracy, world domination by con's piracy, may very well be a great relief: just as we have to be aware about the names we identify with, the conspirates should have done the same. The Christian conspiracies and the Jewish scapegoats, Talmudic conspiracies and Islamic exclusion, and Mohammedan conspiracies closing the circle rely on names entrusted with faith by our collective conscience. Babylonian confusion may be exploited but we are all entangled in a common purpose, an entelechy drawing us together exactly by the drifting away from our home grounds. The content of the conspiracy is guided by innovation and population growth. Emancipation of the laborer was achieved by the media and mobilization, not class-struggle. Humiliation of tyrants achieved by aliens, not women. Probably a lot of bureaucratic conspiracies were thwarted by the entry of the computer, and as many came forth from it. Even institutions like the Committee of 300, that democracy of dope dealers, are not as tyrannical among themselves. We should not believe that factual control over the policies of the world, be it by seven people or by three, by countries or by companies, is absolute without dissent. Suppose, which is my Dutch leftist view, Hans Kolvenbach, Jesuit general, is the boss of conspiracy. Great Capitalist and Communist families are loyal to his esoteric outfit, and many peoples and countries ignore the influence of his exoteric outfit, even if they school our schools, crown our kings, arm our armies. Now as the boss of conspiracy, his power is by definition not based on consent. It needn't be secret if it were. S o he works with dissent, trusting on mutual ignorance's. Such dichotomy rule, fighting on both sides of a conflict, entangles one naturally in deception, willful falsification of reality and all its consequences. For instance, how could the Jesuit general know for sure he still is the boss of conspiracy if over the centuries his society of Jesus taught and forced whole chapters of god's book of the living into secrecy. Does he still have enough Aces in the Vatican library to hold back the various 'rois sans frontieres', the Capo di Tutti Capi, the Head of the Sanhedrin or the Yakuza, or the Chief of UFO's? Please, understand that my view that is the cement of this essay is that the existence of these conspiracies and their pivotal role in history proves the reality of collective conscience as a hidden world that makes the real world happen. So there is a common purpose of intimacy between all the people all over the world, of sharing and being able to help when needed. And there are not-so-common purposes to create domination or homogeny of the whole world (at least, the anthropocentric world) which the world citizens by voice of new netizens are making obsolete. But creation of dominance has not been halted in real time yet. We might say globalization is territorial from both the viewpoint of the ocean and the viewpoint of the land. Mondialisation may refer more to society, the viewpoint of peoples and the viewpoint of nations. To replace world dominance the people should alter the territorial drifts of Internationals and Internationalists into something more beneficial and less opportunistic. Also social control should be much more free and effective, that is to say transparency because of tolerance. Again, the Conspirates can only agree on confusion, they have to write their rules again and again to figure out who's for and against them, because they cut themselves off from the collective conscience. Social control by Big Brother, Security by Disinformation, Credit by Debit are natural consequences of denying the omnipresence of God. As stated especially for the attention of the Plotters in the Koran, God is best at plotting. When Loyola came, Nostradamus showed up. You may think the latter had to protect himself from the former, as it was in the real world, in fact the former is now must vulnerable to the latter. When reincarnation disappeared from Christian belief, it didn't stop to exist, just like God didn't stop to exist when he died in Nietzsche's world. There are many memories of ancient daily life lingering in our collective conscience, that we'll recall in packets or cascades to justify the end of times, once we wake up to it. God didn't have to cultivate these memories to keep them safe in the era of Pisces, it was inevitable that recollection would gratuitely bring proof and solutions. The truth setting you free relies on inevitability: for the Intel community the assurance that the cold war isn't essentially different from the struggle of Philip and William and for the faithful that the struggle is not what it's all about. Secret government thrives on compartmentalization, on the world of implicit rather than explicit reasoning. Yet God managed to compartmentalize the America's from the Old World, the Jews from the Gentiles and Antarctica from the rest. A secret government may direct by id�e fix� the opinion of the divided masses, God can make the Capricorns enage, the Lion yield, the Fishes fly and whatever he pleases. The military industrial complex can torrent the weather or interfere with our minds, but do they know who is playing with who or whether there is any difference between the two? Now entelechy means that the rise of the Yakuza is justified by the samurai who practiced the art of simultaneous mid and weather control, and the rise of the Sanhedrin out of Diaspora justified by the Abrahamic roots of written history. The Capo di tutti Capi is justified by the East India Companies, who's protestant piracies would flourish in sicilies catholic niche. And the Chief of Aliens, whatever we can imagine of him, is justified by centuries of prosecution, discrimination and alienation of elves, dwarfs, unicorns and all the other fairytale figures. Do reckon that imagination is just as real as real is, in collective conscience. That the samurai really controlled the weather by controlling their mind, the Diaspora really miraculously ends in Jerusalem when those who say they're Jews -but really aren't- are (by the really Jewish people in Israel and abroad) piously rendered to the forgiveness of God. The Mob will really be legalized one day and the Inca's curse understood, just as the UFO's really couldn't pass by the Apocalypse, in fact, were part of it. In conclusion, as a New Netizen we could realize the State of Mind freely expressed on the Net itself contains the resources to be free of the need to be free, that there is a relativity of control dragging the puppet masters towards ultimate humiliation. Who ever is called the piper plays the tune. Thank you for your attention, Caspar Frederik Riga. http://www.newnetizen.com/online/400spyvsspy.htm ========================================================================== The Illuminati and Proofs of Conspiracy � Georgia Reams, Fri Aug 24 12:27 http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html Apathy - The Killer of America � Winfred E. 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