-Caveat Lector- Now hold on one minute..... According to news sources, three of the girls were suffering from malnutrition and dehydration and one of the girls had a 3 inch skull fracture. (see http://www.nwcn.com/topstory/436845_TS0805children.) From http://www.nwcn.com/topstory/436345_TS0804kidnap.html quote: A family friend, Bernard Conrad, said he initially supported the parents' struggle to get their children back, but grew uneasy when the couple told him they withheld food from the girls as a disciplinary method. "They sort of confessed that one time to me and my wife, and that's an ugly thing," he said. endquote >From http://www.koin.com/c6k/news/stories/news-90170020010802-120819.html quote: The Christines were featured in a four-part series on child abuse that was published in The Grants Pass Daily Courier last week. The newspaper reported that the children spent several days in the hospital because they were malnourished and dehydrated. One child had a head injury, which officials said resulted from Brian Christine hitting her. A fourth child, a newborn, is in the care of a grandmother in Indiana. The Christines were charged with criminal mistreatment for the malnutrition. Brian Christine also faces charges of fourth-degree assault for the child's head injury. He faces additional charges of reckless endangerment and resisting arrest from a January police pursuit. endquote ----- There are definitely two sides to THIS story. Samantha In a message dated 9/9/01 10:56:20 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Two normal parents last year in Oregon who traveled in a bus with no > air-conditioning during a hot spell with the flu hitting their family > ran into the SOSCF (State Offices for Services to Children and > Families). Grants Pass, OR policeman Dan Evans working with SOSCF > took the children into custody (kidnapped the children from their > parents at gunpoint). No allegations of abuse were ever proven. The > parents were never given a chance to advocate their side of things. > The parents never did anything criminal. The children were given to > foster homes. > > The attorney assigned by the state for the children and a bogus judge- > appointed Citizen Review Committee have called for termination of the > parent's parental rights. This attorney and this bogus Committee have > never met with the parents, nor have they shown the slightest desire > to hear their side of things. In fact one judge in Oregon said in > court, 'Facts are not an issue' it is all in the process'. The > process is that the parents are never given a voice in the > establishment media, and the press spews forth lies and allegations > from state workers who are immune from any prosecution. > > The parents did the normal thing; they took their children back from > the state, the original kidnappers. They took the children at > gunpoint, and were caught in Montana. The newspapers said the > children were glad to be "rescued" by the state. Bystander witnesses > say just the opposite; they say the kids screamed for hours at being > torn from their parents. The newspapers said that after their > capture, when the girls were given to their foster 'mother', "The > girls were so glad to see their foster mom. They had the caseworker > and the law enforcement people in tears." > > Yeah, right! Since when have these heartless people had genuine > sympathy for people? They are seizing several hundred children a > month in Oregon from parents, which are then adopted out (sold, the > state gets money from the Feds for each child) to lesbians, sex > offenders, and Satanists. This is no exaggeration. One can watch this > amazing process for oneself almost everyday in Juvenile Court in the > county I live in, Multnomah County. In fact, the state in my county > is stealing so many children from parents that they are building a > $12 million Children's Receiving Center at NE 102nd Ave., Portland. > The center plans to process 60 children a month. At present the > county is seizing about 95 to 130 children according to John > Richmond, supervisor of the Department of Human Service's child abuse > hot line. > > The supposedly "free" American press (what I call Pravda) has been > silent about the government's process of assuming that children > belong to the state. Our "free" press has been silent about the > parent's side of things. If they can take our children away without > any real legal process, and without giving parents any rights, except > the right to pay an expensive attorney who has little chance of > helping them, what real rights do we have? Aren't our children the > heart and soul of our lives? And our most precious things in our > lives, our children are treated as property of the state, while the > newspapers print lies to cover up the state's kidnapping of hundreds > of children. This alone should show we have no real free press. > > Also for myself, I have already seen web sites that use some of my > material exposing the system censored (i.e. people are not able to > access these sites). For myself, I found out that I no longer have > the freedom to have literature in the privacy of my own home without > risking it being seized and used to slander me. > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! 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