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Netanyahu on defeating terrorism
Former Israeli leader: Islamic militants will use
nukes if they possibly can
In an interview with Brit Hume on the Fox News
Channel Wednesday, former Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu explained what will be required
of the United States to effectively counter the threat
of further Islamic terrorist attacks on the American
mainland.
© 2001 Fox News Channel
HUME: Many of us have been wondering how these
terrorist attacks could have been planned and
implemented without any warning. Well, former Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu predicted something
very close to this could happen in his 1995 book,
"Fighting Terrorism," subtitled "How Democracies Can
Defeat Domestic and International Terrorists."
He wrote of the terrorist networks - quote - "Such
groups nullify, in large measure, the need to have air
power or intercontinental missiles as delivery systems.
For an Islamic nuclear payload, they will be the delivery
system. In the worst of such scenarios," he added, "the
consequences could not be a car bomb, but a nuclear
bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center."
Benjamin Netanyahu joins us now live from Jerusalem.
Mr. Netanyahu, thank you very much for joining us.
Obviously, this was not a nuclear bomb in the basement,
but it destroyed the World Trade Center just as certainly
as if it were. Give us, if you will, your thoughts about
these terrorist networks … how the United States should
regard them and what kind of action the United States
should take?
NETANYAHU: Well, I think first that I have to say that,
if any people in the world can identify with the horror and
grief of the people of the United States, it's the people of
Israel.
We've been on the frontline fighting this terrorism for
many years. But now the forces of militant Islamic terror
have struck in the heart of the free world. And that's
precisely what we have here. We have here a battle
between the forces of freedom and the forces of tyranny,
between the forces of democracy and the forces of
terrorism.
It is not accidental. Arafat can shed crocodile tears and
donate his blood. He's been shedding innocent blood -
including innocent American blood - for decades. And
he's been sponsoring these kindergarten suicide bombers.
HUME: You don't think Yasser Arafat is behind these
attacks, do you?
NETANYAHU: I think what we have - and you alluded
to this - is a network of terror. There is an empire of
terror. There are chiefdoms. Arafat has his own
chiefdoms. Bin Laden has his own chiefdom. The
Hezbollah in Lebanon have their chiefdom. There is
Hamas and Islamic Jihad working under Arafat's
chiefdom.
And they enjoy the support and sponsorship in close
cooperation with such sovereign states as Iraq and Iran,
havens in Afghanistan and other Middle Eastern regimes.
They work together, both in material support and of
course political support. We saw that in Durban the other
day.
I think that what is important is this: Bin Laden or
whoever committed this is not floating in the air. He
comes back to the Middle East. He is not suspended in
space. He comes back to the territory of this terror
empire.
So I think what is required right now is for the United
States not merely to seek out the specific perpetrator
here, but to go and dismantle the entire evil empire of
terrorism, because, if we don't, what I wrote in 1995,
while it didn't come to fruition in precisely the way - they
didn't plant a nuclear bomb in the twin towers - they
used a 350-ton conventional bomb.
But these regimes that are part of this terror network are
developing now nuclear weapons. If we don't dismantle
this terror network in time, the regimes and the
organizations that have absolutely no inhibition in
destroying the United States and its allies. Then what we
will see is that one day their mad fantasy will bring about
not tens of thousands or even 20,000 victims in the
United States, but hundreds of thousands or millions.
They are after our civilization. We must summon the
forces of civilization and the force and the power to act
against them now, when we have the power and when
we still have the time to do so.
HUME: Mr. Netanyahu, there will be those who will
say, that, well, of course Benjamin Netanyahu will react
that way, because, after all, it is Israel that is really
at the
heart, and America's support of Israel that is really the
cause of all this.
He and other Israelis will be worried that America might
withdraw its support for Israel, so of course he will
portray this as a war that is a war on the United States.
How do you react to that argument?
NETANYAHU: Well, that's a common misperception.
These militant Islamics don't hate America because of
Israel. It's the other way around. They hate Israel
because of America. They see us - by the way, correctly
- as an outpost of common values, our common values
of freedom. They hate that freedom. They hate our way
of life. They hate our respect for individual rights, our
ideas of free choice, our free society, our free press.
They think all of that is Satanic. It has to be disposed of.
They call you the big Satan. We're only the little Satan.
Now, they could destroy the little Satan, but it doesn't get
the world dominion that they want. They want to destroy
America in their mad fantasies, or at the very least, to
bring it to its knees. That's why they are going to attack
you again and again and again.
And mind you, have no mistake about it. Can you doubt
for a second, anyone that is hearing this right now, that if
they had a nuclear bomb, they would drop it? Well, they
are working and developing it. And what we have to do
is, we've just received, all of us, a hellish wake-up call,
a
wake-up call from Hell. It's an enormous price to pay for
such a wake-up call.
And there is a terrible tragedy here. I cannot tell you - I
probably have some friends there. All of us, without
friends, we still see that these are people who are part of
us. But we must know that something must come out of
this. We must understand that if we do not act now, if we
do not say that terror is beyond the pale, it is a crime
against humanity, we will not only go against the terrorists
themselves, but against any regime that gives them safe
haven, that harbors them, precisely what we must do.
We must put it beyond the pale and act very resolutely to
dismantle the regimes and dismantle their deadly
weapons before it is too late.
The terrorists today have the will to destroy us, but they
don't have the power. We have the power to eradicate
them, but we must now show that we have the will. This
is a test of time. And, you know, when I see the
rejoicing, the dancing on the roofs in Gaza and Ramallah
and the other Palestinian areas, and the dancing on the
roofs in Baghdad and Beirut, then I know where these
people are.
But I also know that the people who grieve in Israel and
in Britain and in Madrid and throughout Western Europe
and in other parts of the world that are grieving now with
the United States, I know that there is a coalition that can
be summoned just as it was 50 years ago to defeat
another fanatic ideology, Nazism. And it's time that the
United States act. It will act, I have no doubt.
I have confidence in the leadership of the United States. I
have confidence in the people of the United States. And
we all stand together. And we will win this together.
HUME: Mr. Netanyahu, let me just ask you this
question. What kind of life, what kind of footing, what
sort of atmosphere needs to be created in the United
States to bring about the kind of action you're talking
about?
Despite this, I think many Americans think we are
basically at peace in the world and that life needs to be
restored to normal. What does life have to be like? And
what kind of effort are you talking about, on what scale?
NETANYAHU: I think the scale is less than the one that
I just talked about, because the forces of terror do not
have something even approaching the power that Nazi
Germany had. They have the same mad designs.
So what is required is a military and political effort to
galvanize the entire democracies. You have shown in
various recent conflicts in the last decade, whether in the
Balkans or in the Middle East and elsewhere, that you
have the wherewithal, you have enormous, enormous
military power.
And what you have to understand is that you would now
have enormous backing and goodwill both in the United
States itself and its well-wishers and allies around the
world. I think it can be done. I think, specifically, how
one does it is not, I think, the domain of this
conversation. I'm sure the leaders of the United States
are thinking very carefully about it.
I would say that, though, that we would be remiss if we
do not dismantle the terrorist centers right now, because
if we leave them around, they will come back. And they
will come back with greater power. They typically
misunderstand and underappreciate the resolve of free
societies. But amid the smoking ruins of the twin towers,
you could see the silhouette of the Statue of Liberty
holding that torch of liberty very proudly and very high.
It's that flame of liberty that these people want to
extinguish. But it is the United States holding that torch
with its allies who can wipe out these terrorists. And we
must do nothing short of it. We must wipe them out or
they will wipe us out.
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