They hate everything for which this country stands, these phoney pseudo
intellectuals who lurk on these lists while the Fat Man, Mark Pitcavage,
sometimes will let you know he is on list, as a threat.....birds all of
red feathers - well maybe just pinko.

Me, I am looking for Phoenix Bird - the Great Fire Bird who might be my
Fiery Flying Dragon.

And Joshua2, you are still an asshole.   Sorry I am no great
intellectual such as you claim to be but then, I have not had much
Marxist training - and with two relatives who were CIA, well one does
have to be careful these days - for there are those of the old line, who
do a little lurking too - but by their patriotism, you shall know them.

Please pull up the following to see,  what is called The Marxist List.

Well it was a free country once but I say this it will be a cold day in
hell before this God Damned Anti Defamation who lurks and feeds off
people like Larry Flynt and Marc Rich - it will be a cold day in hell
before this garbage gets away with any more murders.   Ever see their
patrons from members of murder inc to Flynt?

Oh note the feeble attempt at intellectualism.....what an asshole.

I will reproduce this one letter once again for Amelia this is the Mike
Pugliese who lurks on lists and reports to - well now that Bush is in
maybe not, and they did get that KGB/Mossad flunkee out of the pic..but
here it is - will the real Mike Pugliese please  stand up.

Saba

This is a scream.....other lists on which he lurks......

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From:��Michael Pugliese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:� Sat�Apr�1,�2000� 3:40 pm
Subject:� Fw: SNET: (Fwd:) SEATTLE II

   Very interesting. On dsanet, the Democratic Socialists of America
listserv, I got this same message, just a few hours ago, from an AFL-CIO
member in the Am. Fed. of Gov't. Workers. SNETNEWS, is a far right
anti-NWO list I lurk on, to keep up with the loons. NWO isn't the only
topic, UFO"s are another favorite. Anyway, as I found out by being on
too many other "patriot, miltia,constitutionalist" listservs, last yr.
the far right is following the anti-globalization movement of the left,
with interest. Just like the more dogmatic leninists, their rhetoric is
a dead giveaway with the conspiracy theory and paranoia. Still, I'll be
interested to hear how many Birchers and other assorted far right types
show up in Washington, D.C. for
a16.
                        Michael Pugliese
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 3:26 PM
Subject: SNET: (Fwd:) SEATTLE II
>
> ->  SNETNEWS  Mailing List
>
> Subject:
>           [PEN-L:17621] Seattle II
>      Date:
>        Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:24:02 -0500
>     From:
>        Richardson_D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >  Reply-To:
>           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>        To:
>           pen-l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi --
> > We are writing to ask for your ONE-TIME SUPPORT FOR A MAJOR
> DEMONSTRATION
> > ON APRIL 16 IN WASHINGTON, DC, against the IMF and World Bank.  If
you
>
> > contribute, your name and address will not become part of a "list."
> We
> > will not share your name and address > > with other organizations.
PLEASE
>
> > FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS.
> >
> > David Schlein, National Vice President American Federation of
Government Employees
> >
> > Robert L. Clark, Secretary-Treasurer
> > United Electrical, Machine, and Radio Workers
> >
> > The Alliance for Global Justice is acting as the fiscal sponsor for
> the
> > April 16th Coalition.  Please donate > > on-line at
> > http://www.a16.org/form_support.html, Or by check, made out to
Mobilization for Global Justice/AGJ, 1247 E Street SE, Washington DC
20003.
> >
> > THE MOVEMENT FOR GLOBAL ECONOMIC JUSTICE HAD ITS U.S. COMING-OUT
PARTY
> IN
> > SEATTLE.  The movement that came to light with the World Trade
Organization (WTO) meetings - the movement all of us have been
> building -
> > will have its next big opportunity to demand that people be put
ahead
> of
> > profits in Washington, DC, the home of the International Monetary
Fund
>
> > (IMF) and World Bank, the rule-> > makers for the global economy.
> >
> > WTO head Mike Moore is expected to join World Bank President James
Wolfensohn, new IMF head Horst Koehler, and the Finance Ministers and
heads of Central Banks who make up the governing body of the IMF on
Sunday, April 16.   This is one of the routine high-level meetings
dedicated to making the world safer and more profitable for
> corporations -
> > and more dangerous for the planet and its people.  The formal joint
meetings continue April 17.
> >
> > ORGANIZATIONS FROM AROUND THE U.S., AND AROUND THE WORLD, ARE MAKING
> PLANS
> >
> > TO COME TO WASHINGTON to tell the economic decision-makers that we
are
> not
> > going to close our eyes to their actions.  Please see the list at
> > http://www.a16.org.  We know that the injustices of the global
economy
>
> > were not born with the WTO, and are hardly the sole responsibility
of
> the
> > WTO.  The IMF and World Bank, more than any other institutions, are
> the
> > coercive powers which have shaped the present global economy, and
> which
> > gave birth to the WTO in the first place.
> >
> >       The reason that the Seattle mobilization was so effective was
> that
> > labor stood with the direct action folks, if not alongside, at least
> near
> > by.  The result was a story that could not be relegated to the back
> pages
> > or the cutting room floor.  The purpose of April 16 is to re-unite
> this
> > coalition.  Therefore the AFL-CIO together with the American
> Federation of
> > Government Employees (AFGE), United Electrical Workers (UE), United
> Steel
> > Workers (USWA) and the central labor > > councils of Washington DC,
San > > Francisco, and San Jose, are > > sponsoring a legal Rally and
March > > for
> Global
> > Justice.
> >
> > A week of activities is being planned, including Sunday April 9,
Jubilee 2000/USA mobilization for debt cancellation Wednesday April 12,
AFL-CIO lobbying day against China most favored
> nation
> > Saturday April 15, Latin America/> > Caribbean Solidarity Conference
> > Sunday April 16, Two Main Events:
> >       Legal Rally and March for Global Justice
> >     Direct Action for Global Justice
> > The schedule for the direct action will not be final until April 15.
> The
> > Legal Demo will assemble on The Ellipse, between the White House and
> the
> > Washington Monument, at 11:00 AM on April 16, 2000.  The tentative
schedule is 11:00 Music and cultural events 12:00 Speakers, with a song
or two 1:30 March
> > 3:30 Return to Ellipse, more talk, a > > few songs. 5:00 Disperse to
numerous > > receptions and SpokesCouncil April > > 18 11:00 - 1:00
Rally on the Ellipse
> >
> > Invited speakers include Members of Congress Dennis Kucinich and
> Cynthia
> > McKinney, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, AFGE President Bobby
> Harnage, UE
> > Secretary-Treasurer Robert L. Clark, > > Michael Moore, Amy Goodman,
DSA's
>
> > Horace Small, TransAfrica's Randall Robinson, Philippines Freedom
from
>
> > Debt leader Matet, India's Vanetta Gupta, South Africa's Dennis
> Brutus,
> > Kensington Welfare Rights' Cheri Honkala, and Public Citizen's Ralph
Nader.
> >
> > Please donate on-line at http://www.a16.org/form_support.html.
> >
> > Many of the organizations that played leading roles in organizing
the Seattle demonstrations -- Direct Action Network, the Ruckus Society,
Global Exchange, Rainforest Action Network, and others -- are
> organizing
> > for April 16 in Washington.  Caravans are being planned from as far
> away
> > as the West Coast and even from Winnipeg, Canada.  Experienced
> activists
> > from dozens of organizations have formed the Alliance for Global
> Justice
> > coalition with 10 working groups (e.g., communications, logistics,
outreach, labor, more being are added all the time) that have been
meeting regularly and making concrete plans.
> >
> > WE WILL BE SHOWING THAT U.S. ACTIVISTS KNOW ABOUT THE IMPACT OF
WORLD
> BANK
> > AND IMF PROGRAMS and stand in solidarity to demand an end to the
devastation they cause not only in the global South, but also here in
America.  Our partner organizations around the world have challenged
> these
> > destructive
> > policies in the streets for years.  Time and again they have asked
us
> what
> > we in the U.S. are doing to help them.  The strong showing made in
> Seattle
> > on behalf of the world's victims of savage corporate globalization
> gave a
> > new impetus to the movement for economic justice - both here and
> abroad.
> >
> > Please donate on-line at http://www.a16.org/form_support.html.
> >
> > The events in Seattle continue to reverberate through the corporate
boardrooms and the halls of power.  PRESIDENT CLINTON, speaking to the
>
> > heads of the world's richest transnational corporations in Davos,
Switzerland told them, "We cannot pretend that globalization is just
> about
> > economics."
> >
> > The Washington Post in its coverage of Clinton's Davos speech
opined: "Clinton's remarks seemed designed as a reminder that these
fears -
> even
> > expressed in unwelcome and sometimes > > violent ways, as they were
in
> Seattle
> > - have a legitimacy that deserves attention in the world's executive
suites and government ministries."  Of course the violence was almost
entirely police violence, but the Washington Post and the New York
> Times
> > are the keepers of "official reality," and in official reality it is
always the protesters who are violent.
> >
> > It is vital that the rulers of the world's economic system
understand clearly that Seattle was not a one-shot event and that now
they can
> return
> > to business as usual.  They must understand as well that the WTO, in
itself, is not the issue.  The issue is the rules that promote profits
over
> the
> > needs of people and the environment.
> >
> > AFL-CIO PRESIDENT JOHN SWEENEY, also > > in Davos, told the
corporate > > big-wigs, "Understand the message of > > Seattle ...  It
was a call for
> new
> > global rules, democratically developed.  Workers North and South
> marched
> > together.  And the many different voices made one clear statement:
Fundamental reform is needed."  On April 16 we will let them know that
>
> > fundamental change does not mean renaming their programs or other
> public
> > relations scams.  Fundamental reform > > means rules that empower
the
> people
> > of the world to make the
> > decisions about how they live their lives - not the transnational
> CEO's or
> > their purchased political leaders.
> >
> > Sweeney also warned them, "If the global system continues to
generate growing inequality, environmental destruction and a race to the
bottom
> for
> > working people, then it will generate an increasingly volatile
> reaction
> > that will make Seattle look tame."
> >
> > Sweeney's prediction is actually a description of events going on
> right
> > now.  We are not much aware of them because they do not often get
mentioned in our media.  The Zapatista uprising in Mexico, the recent
> coup
> > in Ecuador, the civil war in the Congo, the turmoil in Indonesia,
and
> the
> > threat of the U'Wa people to commit mass suicide, are all
expressions
> of
> > the social explosion that has arisen > > from the desperation caused
by
> the
> > policies of the World Bank, IMF, and > > their corporate directors.
> >
> > We are posting this message because WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT, BOTH MORAL
> AND
> > MATERIAL.  We need to know that you support this movement and these
actions.  And we need your financial contributions to make it all
possible.  We need to raise at least $50,000 between now and April 16.
>
> > Publicity and outreach
> > cost money.  We need a stage and sound system, phones and office
> space.
> > We need transportation subsidies for > > students and the
disadvantaged.
> Many
> > organizations are donating staff, copying, phones, postage, etc. to
> the
> > effort, but it is not enough.  We need your help.
> >
> > WE CANNOT LET THIS MEETING TAKE PLACE IN SECRET.  Government
officials
>
> > paving the way for corporate profits > > - all the while claiming to
work
> for
> > development and poverty reduction - must be put on notice: The
people power demonstrated in Seattle will not die.  We demand global
economic
>
> > justice for all.  Now!
> >
> > WE KNOW THAT CORPORATE GLOBALIZATION > > IS NO ACCIDENT.  The rules
that
> allow
> > multinational corporations to plunder resources, devastate
ecosystems,
>
> > exploit workers, and require policies that prioritize their profits
> are
> > made in meetings of Finance Ministers, Treasury officials, and Trade
Ministers.  Although the officials making these decisions represent
governments, many of them formally democratic, their blueprint is one
> of
> > corporate empowerment.  They just assume the people will accept that
greater profits for corporations will mean a better future for us all.
>
> >
> > MASSIVE DEMONSTRATIONS OF OPPOSITION > > TO THAT AGENDA at economic
> summits in
> > Vancouver, Birmingham (UK), Cologne, > > Geneva, and most recently
and > > importantly Seattle have shown that > > many, many people do not
accept
> this
> > logic.  This April we will continue to bring this message to the
decision-makers as they convene on US soil, making sure they
> understand
> > that resistance to their agenda is truly global.
> >
> > We need your support, both moral and > > material.  We need to know
that
> you
> > support this movement and these actions.  And we need your financial
contributions to make it all possible.  We need to raise at least
> $50,000
> > between now and April 16.  Publicity > > and outreach cost money.
We need
> a
> > stage and sound system, phones and office space.  We need
> transportation
> > subsidies for students and the disadvantaged.  Many organizations
are donating staff, copying, phones, postage, etc. to the effort, but it
> is
> > not enough.  We need your help.  And > > please show up on April
16.THIS
> NEW
> > CHALLENGE HAS INSPIRED AND ENERGIZED > > the Alliance for Global
Justice. > > Three weeks before the event, we are > > all pitching in.
We urge you to > > support this landmark event in the > > history of the
worldwide movement > > for economic justice by helping to > > support
the many added expenses > > involved with
> this
> > mobilization.
> >
> > PLEASE PLAN TO COME TO WASHINGTON IN > > APRIL!  We'll be putting
together
> a
> > week of teach-ins, training, and popular actions in advance of the
big
>
> > protest on April 16.
> >
> > Sunday April 9, Jubilee 2000/USA mobilization for debt cancellation
Wednesday April 12, AFL-CIO lobbying day against China most favored
> nation
> > Saturday April 15, Latin America/> > Caribbean Solidarity Conference
> > Sunday April 16, Two Main Events:
> >       Legal Rally and March for Global Justice
> >     Direct Action for Global Justice
> >
> > The Alliance for Global Justice is acting as the fiscal sponsor for
> the
> > April 16th Coalition.  Please donate > > on-line at
> > http://www.a16.org/form_support.html.
> > Or by check, made out to Mobilization for Global Justice/AGJ, 1247 E
Street SE, Washington DC 20003.
> >
> > Your donation is tax deductible.  Please be as generous as you can
for
>
> > this
> > one-time request.
> >
> > In Solidarity,
> >
> > David Schlein, National Vice President American Federation of
Government Employees
> >
> > Robert L. Clark, Secretary-Treasurer
> > United Electrical, Machine, and Radio Workers
> >
> > P.S.  To stay informed on the organizing efforts -- and to get
further
>
> > involved -- subscribe to our e-mail listserv by sending a blank
> message
> > from
> > your account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> visit
> > the coalition website at http://www.a16.org.
> >
>
>
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