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Obviously, the gutter slime of the BushMob needed a war to salvage their disaster-bound, doomed Titanic of an Administration. - - - - - - - - Bin Laden Denies Role In Attack - He And Family Go Into Hiding By Luke Harding and Rory McCarthy in Islamabad Brian Whitaker and Richard Norton-Taylor The Guardian - London 9-17-1 Osama bin Laden has abandoned his main base near Kandahar in fear of attack by the US and has moved to an undisclosed location in the mountains, sources in the Afghan city said last night. The Saudi-born dissident's large family, together with his Arab followers, has also left the city, the sources added. His four wives and many children have taken refuge in the countryside, according to reports. Bin Laden and his men have apparently moved to one of their many hideouts in a remote part of the country. His decision to vacate the southern Afghan city was not only for his personal security, but to reduce the chances of civilian casualties in case of an attack, his aides said. In a statement faxed to the pro-Taliban Afghan Islamic Press (AIP) agency, Bin Laden yesterday denied having anything to do with last week's attacks in New York and Washington. "I am residing in Afghanistan. I have taken an oath of allegiance [to the Taliban's spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammad Omar] which does not allow me to do such things from Afghanistan," he claimed. "We have been blamed in the past, but we were not involved," he said. The fax, written in Arabic, was sent from a secret location, AIP said. In the past, Bin Laden has shifted base whenever there has been any threat of American retaliation, most recently last October after the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, in which 17 sailors were killed. He has several main bases inside Afghanistan - a large camp next to Kandahar airport, where several hundred of his Arab followers live, a smaller base in the Oruzgan mountains and a third camp near the south- eastern city of Jalalabad, cut into a rockface. But he is also believed to have a network of smaller hideouts, many of which were used by the mojahedin in the 1980s in their guerrilla war against Soviet troops. Afghanistan is a large country with mountains, deserts and remote valleys. One source said that Bin Laden had the choice of many isolated and secure sanctuaries, adding: "There are plenty of places to hide." Locating him is only one problem that the Bush administration faces. The US vice-president, Dick Cheney, said yesterday that he had "no doubt" that Bin Laden was the "prime suspect", but proving that he had directly instigated or funded last week's attacks on the US was likely to be another matter. Although no evidence linking Bin Laden to the attacks has been disclosed, reports yesterday linked one of the suspected hijackers to the suicide bomb attack on USS Cole. Newsweek and the Los Angeles Times said that Khalid al-Midhar, who died in the crash at the Pentagon, had earlier been captured by a surveillance video meeting one of the Cole suspects in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. But despite strong suspicions that Bin Laden was behind the attack on the warship in Aden, no specific evidence of his role has emerged. One of the most tantalising pointers is that Abdul al-Muhsin al- Taifi, named as one of the two suicide bombers in Yemen, was wanted for questioning about the 1998 bombing of the American embassy in Nairobi, for which Bin Laden has also been blamed. British intelligence sources say that Bin Laden's sympathisers have no formal structure, making it extremely difficult to penetrate his al-Qaida organisation or to find hard evidence against it. "It is an informal network which crosses international boundaries", one source said. The members do not see themselves as a part of a group and, unlike the IRA and other terrorist groups, they do not operate in cells. Rather they are a collection of individuals "inspired" by Bin Laden, the intelligence sources added. http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,553144,00.html ***** 9.18.01 NY, DC attacks likely inside job, as Reichstag fire was ! - Moscow Times -- "There is, however, one analogy that does not seem to have occurred to anyone: the burning of the Reichstag." -- Moscow Times Uh... That very analogy SURE as hell occurred to us, as our readers know! As for the rest of this article? It's excellent: we couldn't have put it better ourselves. - - - - - - - - http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2001/09/18/007.html Tuesday, Sep. 18, 2001. Page 13 Bin Laden? Better Be Sure By Boris Kagarlitsky The terrorist attack on New York has already been compared to Pearl Harbor and the loss of the Kursk submarine. Mikhail Gorbachev likened it to Chernobyl, which is probably a very accurate analogy in terms of the shock and ignominy experienced by the U.S. administration. In both cases, we saw incompetence and helplessness initially, followed by desperate attempts at official face-saving. There is, however, one analogy that does not seem to have occurred to anyone: the burning of the Reichstag. The anti-Arab and anti-Moslem hysteria that has followed around the globe in the wake of the catastrophe simply calls out for comparison with the events of the 1930s. The U.S. authorities immediately started the search for the guilty among Arabs, Osama bin Laden cropped up almost immediately as prime suspect and alternative versions have barely been entertained. In the minutes immediately following the explosions, it seems there was no doubt whatsoever regarding the "Arab" source of the attacks. However, the more evidence and arguments adduced in support of the "Arab version," the more shaky it seems to become. In a television appearance immediately after the explosions, the well- known pundit Vyacheslav Nikonov noted that the guilty would undoubtedly be found, and if not, they would be "nominated," adding cynically: "It would be in Russia's interest if the Taliban and bin Laden were nominated." To give him his due, Alexander Gordon -- who spoke on two TV programs -- pointed out that it could be far-right militia groups (such as those behind the Oklahoma City bombing) and not Islamic terrorists at all. Analysts have emphasised how easy it would be to carry out each individual element of the terrorist operation: smuggling knives aboard a plane, breaking into the cockpit, etc. However to coordinate all these actions in different parts of the country without making a single serious blunder is devilishly hard. The crime committed on Sept. 11 must have required enormous efforts in management, control and logistics. The strength of Islamic terrorism is in the simplicity of organization and its unpredictability. All groups operate autonomously. Even the destruction of command centers doesn't have a major impact, insofar as every one of Allah's warriors is capable of acting on his own. The attacks on New York and Washington were very carefully coordinated, the minutest details were thoroughly thought through, and at no stage were there serious lapses. It would appear that the operation was organized and carried out by people who had free passage around the country and were considered to be above suspicion. If they are professionals, they did not acquire their experience in underground terrorist groups. It cannot be excluded that the attacks were organized by forces within the United States, and this would have to be people with considerable military experience. Why is it that no seems even to consider a conspiracy by far-right groups as a possibility? The masterminds could easily have covertly used people of Arab nationality to carry out the attacks. Whoever it is behind the Washington and New York attacks, in Russia and Israel they have already played a role comparable to the burning of the Reichstag. Far-right politicians -- "upholders of the values of western civilisation" -- have already spoken out calling for revenge. Over and over, one and the same thing is repeated: "Moslems are subhuman barbarians and you cannot conduct negotiations with them. They are not like us, and thus our criteria of democracy and human rights do not apply to them." "No need to fear unpopular measures," some say. "No need to limit ourselves to democratic conventions," others chime in. At a minimum they are after: arrests without warrants, mass deportations and wide-scale searches. Already reports are coming from the United States of racist attacks against Islamic communities. It is clear that mass repressions will lead to mass resistance. That is how you make enemies. Do those who are trying to scare us with the Moslem threat really not understand that? They understand it full well. They simple believe that a final solution is possible -- if not globally, then at least on a more limited territory. As a maximum, they are baying for ethnic cleansing and genocide. Boris Kagarlitsky is a Moscow-based sociologist. ***** 9.18.01 FIB WAS tracking man linked to hijackings BEFORE 9.11! - They LIED! WHAT?! So... The "FIB" has actually been LYING, when they repeatedly maintained -- as have ALL relevant federal sectors and agencies -- they were completely and totally blind-sided by last Tuesday's so- called "terrorist" attacks in NYC and D.C.? Well, apparently they WERE fibbing, as it's now revealed that two weeks ago, they were right on the tail of someone they NOW have in custody, whom they claim was for certain closely connected to some of the hijackers! WOW! SO... No warnings, no prior knowledge of any kind, eh, Feds? - - - - - - - - FBI tracked man in custody 2 weeks before attacks September 18, 2001 Posted: 3:12 PM EDT (1952 GMT) http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/18/inv.investigation.terrorism/ WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Two weeks before the terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington, D.C., FBI agents were at a flight school in Oklahoma asking questions about a man now suspected of having a link to those attacks, sources said. The agents, sources said, were interested in Zacarias Moussaoui, who was arrested August 17 in Minnesota on an alleged passport violation. Moussaoui was in custody at the time of last week's attacks -- being held as a material witness -- but authorities are investigating whether he and others were part of a broader plot to hijack and crash even more jets. The disclosure came as at least four people are being held as material witnesses into the U.S. investigation into the September 11 terrorist attacks. More than 50 people are in government custody, held either as material witnesses to the investigation or on possible immigration violations. They are all being questioned about the attacks, the FBI said, and their level of cooperation has varied. Material witnesses are people who are not necessarily considered suspects but are believed to have valuable information and may pose a flight risk. Almost 200 other people are being sought for questioning in the case. Jetliner training in Oklahoma The fact that FBI agents were at the Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma, two weeks before any attacks would seem to contradict the agency's assertion that it was not aware of any connection between aviation schools and suspected terrorists. "There were no warning signs that I'm aware of that would indicate this type of operation in the country," FBI Director Robert Mueller said Monday. In Oklahoma, Moussaoui had apparently raised suspicious because he sought training in flying commercial jets despite having a lack of experience. The possibility that pilots were being trained for terrorist plots was revealed earlier this year during testimony at the trial of four men charged with the 1998 bombings of American embassies in Africa. U.S. prosecutors believe Osama bin Laden -- described as the "prime suspect" in the hijackings -- was behind that plot as well. He, in fact, was indicted for the 1998 bombings. U.S. investigators also believe that two of the dead World Trade Center hijackers had toured the Oklahoma facility, seeking flight training. Those two hijackers later enrolled in a Florida aviation school. In other developments in the investigation: the hijackers left behind materials suggesting they had back-up plans for their mission of terrorism, according to government sources. No details about the plans were given. The material was said to have been confiscated from one or more automobiles left at the airports where the hijackers began their suicide flights. It was not immediately known whether those automobiles included the car at Logan International Airport in Boston registered to Mohammed Atta, who was on the first jetliner that struck the World Trade Center. If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit: http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
