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none of the below is an advocacy of anything, and none of the below precludes piggyback black ops designed to set the Jihadists up, but may contain some facts which have to be included in the mix. As I understand it, I'll look for a link, Atta was not the only hijacker Iraqi agents met with.I thought this was very astute stuff Bob, referring, of course, to what AA77 actually did:"Even in supposedly uncontrolled Class G airspace there are mil
areas unmarked on charts and therefore unknown to many
civilian pilots in them, so Andrews has to watch those
areas even if AA77 flew under 1200 feet to be evasive.
Atta's Iraqi contact might have met him a second time
with charts to help here, and speed limits apply. Here's
a loophole, and AA77 flew west from Dulles over mountains
and turned around, possibly to pick up this cover--http://pws.prserv.net/uncletom/gs/airspace.htm
"Most Class G airspace is that space from the surface up to 1200
feet. However, there are areas in mountainous terrain where
airspace outside the Victor Airways is Class G from the ground
to 14,500 feet AGL."While in Class G airspace, the following rules apply.
Operations Permitted - VFR
ATC Clearance Required - No !!!
Radio Contact Required - No !!!
Minimum Pilot Qualifications - Student !!!
Mode C Altitude Reporting Transponder required - No !!!"http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-1397683,00.html
Bin Laden Names Sept. 11 Hijackers
Friday December 21, 2001 3:30 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) - Osama bin Laden names some of the Sept. 11 hijackers and commends them to Allah, according to a more thorough translation by one of the experts hired by the government to review a videotape of the suspected terrorist.
A more leisurely review of the tape, which was released by the government last week, came up with ``a whole bunch of names,'' translator George Michael said Thursday in an interview with The Associated Press. He would identify only three: Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Wail Alshehri.
``You'll have to talk to the Pentagon about the rest,'' Michael said.
An independent translator, who is a native Saudi, told the AP that bin Laden also utters the name Alghamdi several times in reference to suspected hijackers Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi and Saeed Alghamdi.
Alshehri was on American Airlines flight 11, the first plane to hit the Twin Towers at the World Trade Center in New York; Alhamzi and Alhamzi were on American Airlines flight 77, which hit the Pentagon.
Federal investigators believe Ahmed and Hamza Alghamdi were aboard United Flight 175, the second plane to crash into the World Trade Center. Saeed Alghamdi died aboard United Flight 93, which crashed 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh....
Ali al-Ahmed, a Saudi who listened to the tape, told the AP that the visitor attaches the words ``jalad alhayaa'' - a phrase that some use to describe the Saudi religious police - to the smuggler's name.
Al-Ahmed's translation also claims that bin Ladens' guest delight in the support that several prominent Saudi clerics are giving to terrorists.
``Right at the time of the strike on America, he gave a very moving speech, Sheikh Abdulah al-Baraak,'' bin Laden said on the tape. ``And he deserves thanks for that.''
Al-Baraak teaches at a university in Saudi Arabia and acts as a religious advisor to government officials.
Any connection between bin Laden and a Saudi official would probably embarrass the Saudi government, which has given its support to the United States"
15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers obtained their US visas in Saudi Arabia.
http://www.iraqfoundation.org/news/2001/joctober/17_iraq.html
Mohamed Atta, 33, believed to be the pilot aboard the American Airlines flight that first struck the World Trade Center, met secretly twice last year with Iraqi intelligence agent Ahmed Samir Ahani — raising the possibility of Iraqi involvement in the suicide strikes that killed more than 5,000 people.
Atta lived at one time lived near the Florida site where deadly airborne exposures of the anthrax bacteria killed one man and infected another. He has been identified as the ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and Washington and as the head of a terrorist cell linked to fugitive Osama bin Laden.
The Iraqi agent later was expelled by Czech officials for activities they said conflicted with his diplomatic mission. Czech officials also are investigating whether Atta met with other Iraqi officials in Prague, including Farouk Hijazi, Saddam Hussein's former director of external security who also met with bin Laden.
http://multimedia.belointeractive.com/attack/binladen/0927meeting.html
09/26/2001
By JOHN J. LUMPKIN
Associated Press----- Original Message ----- WASHINGTON — A 1998 meeting between Osama bin Laden and a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Afghanistan is coming under new scrutiny as U.S. officials search for clues of a state sponsor of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/iraq/956-tni.htm:
Laurie Mylroie:
"The planned act was not as big as what subsequently occurred. . . Yousef
showed up on the scene. and escalated the initial plot. . . . Yousef used
[them]. . .as pawns and then immediately after the blast left the country."
[10]
That, indeed, is the most straightforward explanation of the [1993] World
Trade Center bombing: that it was an Iraqi intelligence operation, led by
Ramzi Yousef, with the local fundamentalists serving first as aides and then
as diversionary dupes.
Since Yousef's arrest and extradition to the United States, the evidence for
this explanation has, if anything, grown stronger. First of all, he is
clearly no fundamentalist. According to neighbors, he had a Filipina
girlfriend and enjoyed Manila's raucous night life.[11] Yousef's nationality
and ethnicity have also become known: He is a Pakistani Baluch.
The Baluch are a distinct ethnic group, speaking their own language, one of
several Middle Eastern peoples without their own homeland. They live in
eastern Iran and western Pakistan in inhospitable desert terrain over which
neither Tehran nor Islamabad exercises much control. Baluchistan is a haven
for smuggling, both of drugs and of arms. The Baluch are Sunni and are at
sharp odds with Tehran's Shia clerical regime. Through Iraq's many years of
conflict with Iran, first in the early 1970s and then during the Iran-Iraq
war a decade later, Iraqi intelligence developed close ties with the Baluch
on both sides of the Iranian-Pakistani border. Above all, it used them to
carry out terrorism against Iran.
Yousef's associates in Pakistan, too, were anti-Shia. This fact, taken
together with his Baluch ethnicity, make it nearly impossible that Iran
could be behind Yousef. The most recent inquiries, made since Yousef's
arrest, have reduced the question to two possibilities: He is a free-lancer
connected to a loose network of fundamentalists; or he worked for Iraq. [12]
Of Passports and Fingerprints
THE SINGLE MOST important piece of evidence pointing to Iraq is the passport
on which Yousef fled America. It was no ordinary passport.
On November 9,1992, just after the final green light for the bombing had
been given, Yousef reported to Jersey City., police that he had lost his
passport. He claimed to be Abdul Basit Mahmud Abdul Karim, a Pakistani born
and reared in Kuwait. Then, between December 3 and December 27, Yousef made
a number of calls to Baluchistan. Several of them were conference calls to a
few key numbers, a geographical plotting of which suggests that they were
related to Yousef's probable escape route--through Pakistani and Iranian
Baluchistan--across the Arabian Sea to Oman, after which the "telephone
trail" ends. After Yousef s arrest, a National Security Council staffer
confirmed to me that Yousef had indeed fled from the United States through
Baluchistan.
On December 31, 1992, Yousef went to the Pakistani consulate in New York
with photocopies of Abdul Basit's current and previous passports. Consistent
with his story to police in Jersey City, he claimed to have lost his
passport and asked for a new one. The consulate suspected his non-original
documentation enough to deny him a new passport. But it did provide him a
six-month, temporary passport and told him to straighten things out when he
returned "home." This turned out to be good enough for the purpose at hand.
By now it should be clear that the World Trade Center bomber's real name is
probably neither Ramzi Yousef nor Abdul Basit. After all, would someone
intending to blow up New York's tallest tower go to such trouble to get a
passport under his own name? Yousef was a man of many passports; he had
three on his person when he was arrested in Pakistan. Rather, it seems that
Ramzi Yousef risked going to the Pakistani consulate with such flimsy
documents because he wanted investigators to conclude that he was in fact
Abdul Basit, and so would stop trying to determine his real identity. And
that is pretty much what happened.
But why Abdul Basit Karim? Here we come to one of the most intriguing and
vital aspects of the case. Because there really was an Abdul Basit Karim, a
Pakistani born in Kuwait, who later attended Swansea Institute, a technical
school in Wales. After graduating in 1989 with a two-year degree in
computer-aided electronic engineering, he returned to a job in Kuwait's
planning ministry. As Abdul Basit and his family were permanent residents of
Kuwait, Kuwait's Interior Ministry maintained files on them. But the files
for Abdul Basit and his parents in Kuwait's Interior Ministry have been
tampered with. Key documents from the Kuwaiti files on Abdul Basit and his
parents are missing. There should be copies of the front pages of the
passports, including a picture, a notation of height, and so forth, but that
material is gone. There is also information in the file that should not be
there, especially a notation stating that Abdul Basit and his family left
Kuwait for Iraq on August 26, 1990, transiting to Iran at Salamchah (a
crossing point near Basra) on their way to Pakistani Baluchistan, where,
according to the file, they now live.
Who put that notation into Abdul Basit's file and why? Consider the
circumstances of the moment. The Kuwaiti government had ceased to exist, and
Iraq was an occupation authority; bent on establishing control over a
hostile population amid near-universal condemnation, as an American-led
coalition threatened war. The situation was chaotic as hundreds of thousands
of people were fleeing for their lives. While the citizens of Western
countries were pawns in a high stakes game, held hostage by Iraq, little
attention was paid to the multitude of Third World nationals bent on escape.
It truly boggles the imagination to believe that under such circumstances an
Iraqi bureaucrat was sitting calmly in Kuwait's Interior Ministry taking
down the flight plans--including the itinerary and final destination--of
otherwise non-descript Baluchis fleeing Kuwait. Rather, it looks as if Iraqi
intelligence put that information into Abdul Basit's file to make it appear
that he left Kuwait rather than died there, and that, like Ramzi Yousef, he
too was Baluch.
Moreover, Iraqi intelligence apparently switched fingerprint cards, removing
the original with Abdul Basit's fingerprints and replacing it with one
bearing those of Yousef. Fingerprints are decisive for investigators because
no two people's match. But the very fact that fingerprints are so decisive
makes them the perfect candidate for careful manipulation. Thus, after U.S.
authorities learned that Yousef had fled as Abdul Basit, they sent his
fingerprints (taken by the Immigration and Naturalization Service at JFF
airport when he was briefly detained for illegal entry) to Kuwait, asking if
they matched those of Abdul Basit. When the Kuwaitis said that they did,
everyone assumed the question settled--forgetting that Kuwait's files were
not secure during the Iraqi occupation.
Pakistan also maintains files on those of its citizens permanently resident
abroad, at the embassy in the country in which they live. On August 9,
Baghdad ordered all embassies in Iraq's "nineteenth province" to close. Most
did, including the Pakistani embassy. The files on Abdul Basit and his
family that should be in the Pakistani embassy in Kuwait are missing. The
Pakistani government now has no record of the family.
What does all this suggest? To me it suggests that Abdul Basit and his
family were in Kuwait when Iraq invaded in August 1990; that they probably
died then; and that Iraqi intelligence then tampered with their files to
create an alternative identity for Ramzi Yousef. Clearly, only Iraq could
reasonably have: 1) known of, or caused, the death of Abdul Basit and his
family; 2) tampered with Kuwait's Interior Ministry files, above all
switching the fingerprint cards; and 3) filched the files on Abdul Basit and
his family from the Pakistani embassy in Kuwait.
....MOST MEMBERS OF the U.S. national security bureaucracies think that
Saddam Hussein has largely lain low since the Gulf War, constrained by
economic sanctions and swift American reactions to his occasional feints to
the south. But if in February 1993, Saddam ordered his agents to try to
topple New York's tallest tower onto its twin, and if, in January 1995, Iraq
sponsored an effort to destroy eleven U.S. airplanes in the Far East, then
Saddam has not been quiescent.
This, simply put, is why it is important to find out who Ramzi Yousef is and
who may have put him up to his murderous work. Maybe Iraq had nothing to do
with him, despite all the circumstantial evidence suggesting otherwise. But
if it did, then the otherwise peculiar, bombastic, and extremely violent
statements emanating from Baghdad might make more sense than they at first
seem to.
In the fall of 1994, Baghdad's official press, in essence, threatened that
Saddam might use his remaining unconventional agents, biological and
chemical, for terrorism in America, or in missiles delivered against his
enemies in the region if and when he became fed up with sanctions.[14] On
September 29, 1994, following an otherwise cryptic statement of Saddam
Hussein's, the government newspaper, Babil, warned: "Does the United States
realize the meaning of every Iraqi becoming a missile that can cross to
countries and cities?"http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/21/iraq/index1.html
"Mylroie says Yousef's operations were a classic "false flag" in which actions are carried out in a way that makes others look responsible -- and Yousef, she believes, was almost certainly an Iraqi intelligence operative. She points particularly to the circumstances around his flight from the United States after his team of bombers set off their device in 1993 -- which had been intended to kill 250,000 people, toppling one tower into the other and releasing a deadly cloud of cyanide, but which only created a ball of flame that instead burned up the cyanide -- and in short order were arrested.
Yousef fled the country and flew to Karachi, Pakistan, with the passport of a Kuwaiti named Abdul Basit Karim. For the next two years he remained at large, but resurfaced in Manila when a batch of chemicals he was mixing for his next bombing plot caught fire. Forced to flee, he was apprehended a month later in Pakistan, thanks to information on a computer he left behind in the Philippines.
The details of the plot contained on that computer were chilling. Investigators found that Yousef was planning to plant bombs, comprised of a liquid explosive that could get past metal detectors, in coordinated fashion aboard a series of 11 American airliners scheduled to fly at roughly the same time over the Pacific Ocean."
Benazir Bhutto: "After the Russians left, they [the Taliban] told us that they had defeated one superpower and now they would defeat the other....I support Islamabad’s intention to end terrorism. We had warned Islamabad in 1998 that unless they distanced themselves from the Taliban, Pakistan could be in big trouble. Now is the time. The Taliban is ruling by force, it subjugates its women and mistreats everyone from missionaries to diplomats. We’ve got refugees still on our land—Afghans are scattered all over the world.After the first World Trade Center bombing [in 1993], we extradited Ramzi Yousef, and he confessed to making two assassination attempts on me. They were meddling heavily in Pakistani politics, and they saw Pakistan as a political and economic hinterland which could give them access to the rest of the world. They were very keen to stop my government."As I say, none of this precludes piggyback black ops - Saudi money is certainly not above the odd convenient windfall - but there is, obviously, a point at which a decision is made to fry, rather than finance, the Islamic Jihad - the assassination of Mubarak, for insance, is a goal the CIA would not have shared.From: BobSent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 5:42 AMSubject: [CIA-DRUGS] Andrews as FAA air-cop DCAs far as Andrews FCC control being asleep at the wheel, they
would not have a readiness problem since their vigilance is
required to coordinate between military and civilian air traffic
all the time. That is why they would have no problem of a lack
of integration of FCC control and military radar, either. And
another reason to put fighters in the air to figure out the 9/11
no transponder and off-course anomalies is that airborne
fighters extend the range and altitude capabilities of radar--http://www.jetsafety.com/stealthairspace.doc
Copyright 1994 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association.
SPECIAL-USE AIRSPACE
STEALTH AIRSPACE
What you don't know can hurt you.
BY PETER A. BEDELL
Reprinted with permission from the July 1994 issue of ``AOPA Pilot''An airspace specialist at Andrews AFB near Washington, D.C.,
says..."[An airborne] radar is capable of looking 80 miles"...
Remember to call your local air base or guard unit for information
on LATN areas, and retrieve a copy of a FLIP chart to see if any
SRs are in your area. A little planning is the safest way to keep
military and civilian traffic from unplanned rendezvous."Restricted areas on charts, but some mil areas are NOT on
charts, therefore mil and civilian pilots will be in the same areas
but civilian pilots don't know where they are, so Andrews
MUST monitor and do FAA control interventions 24/7, and
in a much larger area to the west than Dulles, so no excuses
about readiness or integration or waiting for "FAA" to call
when Andrews IS an FAA control entity always looking
over the shoulder of other FAA entities. What, NORAD
as intermediary all of a sudden, no way even if Andrews
had to be called by other DC area TRACONs. Even in
supposedly uncontrolled Class G airspace there are mil
areas unmarked on charts and therefore unknown to many
civilian pilots in them, so Andrews has to watch those
areas even if AA77 flew under 1200 feet to be evasive.
Atta's Iraqi contact might have met him a second time
with charts to help here, and speed limits apply. Here's
a loophole, and AA77 flew west from Dulles over mountains
and turned around, possibly to pick up this cover--http://pws.prserv.net/uncletom/gs/airspace.htm
"Most Class G airspace is that space from the surface up to 1200
feet. However, there are areas in mountainous terrain where
airspace outside the Victor Airways is Class G from the ground
to 14,500 feet AGL."While in Class G airspace, the following rules apply.
Operations Permitted - VFR
ATC Clearance Required - No !!!
Radio Contact Required - No !!!
Minimum Pilot Qualifications - Student !!!
Mode C Altitude Reporting Transponder required - No !!!And there is a very real danger requiring Andrews' readiness
and integration of FAA and mil control because military
training areas are not known to civilian pilots unless they
do a lot of homework they aren't informed how to do, so
military radar operators must be vigilant when military
planes are in the air.� Prohibited areas
� Restricted areas
� Warning Areas
� Military Operations Areas
� Alert Areas
� Controlled Firing Areas
� Military Training Routes
� Air Defense Identification Zone
� Temporary Restricted AreasDead links lead to dead meat civilian pilots since 9/11 even
if they want to do their homework--
gopher://venus.hyperk.com:2101/0/.aim-sources/FAAAIMP03031
gopher://venus.hyperk.com:2101/0/.aim-sources/FAAAIMP03032
gopher://venus.hyperk.com:2101/0/.aim-sources/FAAAIMP03033
gopher://venus.hyperk.com:2101/0/.aim-sources/FAAAIMP03034
gopher://venus.hyperk.com:2101/0/.aim-sources/FAAAIMP03035
gopher://venus.hyperk.com:2101/0/.aim-sources/FAAAIMP03036
gopher://venus.hyperk.com:2101/0/.aim-sources/FAAAIMP03041Also, relating to AA77 being off course in a wide area and
beyond Andrews' radar, not so, military airspace covers large
areas west beyond Dulles so that Andrews must use mil
radar and do FAA control for both military and civilian
traffic and do FAA control interventions to prevent crashes
in a much broader area than civilian FAA at airports. And
putting up fighters with radar to extend Andrews' view
is therefore an option and yet another reason to be ready
to scramble fighters without lala regard to shootdown.Link: Illustrating Andrews' role as FAA controller bossing civilian
commercial planes, small private planes, and fighters all
in the same context, and using superior military radar capability
of greater than 50 miles range integrated with their FAA flight
control role--all the hats all the badges not just for show but
all theoretical roles integrated in one fully deputized "FAA
control" entity which is also an AFB with two fighter squadrons
when the Blue Angels, Golden Knights and Thunderbirds aren't
there. Why was only a helicopter scrambled? It isn't NORAD's
place to say. Andrews AFB was the FAA control and fighter
base tasked without NORAD in the command loop as far as
response to designated anomalies, all in one, at least to get on
the scene in several minutes, SOP, without having to ask NORAD
or ponder a shoot-down possibility.-Bob
http://members.aol.com/rsacchi001/andrew/andrew.html
2000 ANDREWS AFB OPEN HOUSE
This year all three military demonstration teams (Blue Angels, Golden Knights,
Thunderbirds) were there. The military in general and Andrews AFB in particular
put a great deal of planning into this extravaganza. The one thing beyond the military's
control was the one thing that grounded the show. The weather made visibility below
minimums. The bad luck continued after the Open House ended. On 22 May, 2000
the USAF Thunderbirds departed Andrews AFB for Nellis AFB. When Thunderbird
No. 5 took off it couldn't find No. 4 on radar. Thunderbird No. 6 followed No. 5.
The flight may have taken them over the Vice-President's house, restricted airspace.
Then No. 5 and No. 6 flew within 700 feet vertically and 4,800 feet horizontally of an
American Airlines MD-80 jet. This was closer than the minimum allowed distance
(1,000' verticle x 3 mi. horizontal). The FAA controllers ordered the MD-80 to
climb 700 feet and turn right. No. 5 and No. 6 also flew within 100 feet vertically
and 1.83 miles horizontally of a private single-engine plane. Thunderbird No. 7 was
flying at 3,000 feet towards the Blue Ridge Mountains. This was below some of the
mountain peaks. Controllers ordered No. 7 to climb to 6,000 feet. Thunderbird No. 8
was also off course. No. 8 was 40 miles south of Washington when FAA controllers
directed the pilot to the correct course.Andrews as primary FAA control--
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/1999/99-2-001.html
Aircraft requesting clearance to operate in Class B airspace must remain clear until
ATC clearance is obtained from Washington and/or Andrews Approach Control...
two P-56 Prohibited Areas in downtown Washington, D.C....Naval Observatory/Vice
President?s Residence P-56 area in Northwest Washingtonhttp://www.edwards.af.mil/itea/papers01/sess12pp1.doc
ACTFAST has worldwide communication capabilities by being connected to
the global aviation data-link network. The global network is made up of landlines,
very high frequency data-link (VDL) ground stations, high frequency data-link
(HDL) ground stations, and communication satellite networks. The network provides
worldwide routing of ATC and AOC data to and from aircraft en route. Through
this vast network, ACTFAST can communicate with aircraft, ATC centers, and
AOCs throughout the world. ACTFAST is capable of performing the functions
of an ATC center. ACTFAST is also capable of emulating a generic AOC.Initial Demonstration Capability (IDC):
The IDC system, shown in Figure 3, has been in operation since September
2000. This system is currently being operated and maintained by the developing
organization (412 TW/DRP). The IDC system is composed of a single workstation
group (comprising three workstations) and three VHF radio integrated ARINC
ground stations (IAGS). The workstations are used for ATC, AOC, and test.
Three IAGS with five VHF transceivers total are currently operational. All
transceivers are configured for the ACARS (VDL Mode 0) message capability.
The ACARS transmission rate is at 2.4 kb/s. The salient characteristics are shown
in Table 1 for the IDC installation.To date the IDC system has been used to support testing for the following
organizations:89th Air Wing, Andrews AFB
Initial Operational Capability (IOC):
The IOC system, shown in Figure 4, will transition to operational status in
October 2001.In this scenario the aircraft under test flies in the R-2508 restricted airspace.
The following AFFTC/ARINC resources are required to execute this test:ACTFAST
ARINC Network Operation Center (NOC) and system test bed (STB)
ARINC STB audit file support
VDL ground station(s)
VDL test configuration (test frequencies and VDL mode)
Mission voice frequencies within R-2508
R-2508 airspace clearance
Test cards
Range Control Officer
Avionics test engineer.
The following data items are produced:
ACTFAST message log files
Gateway/router log files
VDL ground station audit files
STB audit files
Report of test results.
Avionics Platform System Integration Testing in National or International Airspace
In this scenario the aircraft under test flies outside the R-2508 restricted airspace,
in national airspace (NAS) or international airspace (IAS). The following
AFFTC/ARINC resources are required to execute this test:ACTFAST
ARINC NOC
ARINC NOC audit-file support
SATCOM phone number (for voice contact with aircrew) and test times
Airspace clearance with appropriate NAS or IAS ATC (not ACTFAST)
Test cards
Range Control Officer
Avionics test engineer.
The following data items are produced:
ACTFAST message log files
Gateway/router log files
NOC audit files
Report of test results.
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