-Caveat Lector- i was in touch with cooper a week or so before he was offed...he grew gradually more and more agitated [seemingly unexplainably if one ignores the harrassment he spoke of - methinks it grew and grew] - did you know that when police came to serve him an arrest warrant they did so at midnight...in the midst of what i consider to be the very real possibility that harrassment of bill was growing...it was very convenient to serve him papers at midnight so provoke him...after all...the police in the are admitted to causing a disturbance a bit away from bill's house to draw him out...they said it was because they didn't want to approach the house directly as bill was known to have said things like 'they will never take me alive'
given this, wouldn't it have made more sense to call first or to NOT serve the warrant at midnight but to be straight up and on the doorstep? reeks of a set up to me! --- "M. L. Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric -- here's Kenn "Steamshovel Press" Thomas, as opposed to > Kenn > "Crimgov" Thomas, duking it out with your old friend Don Ecker. > I'm > thinking that Kenn outpointed Officer Don in this little dance -- > which > is, I believe, a verbatim transmission of an exchange these guys > had over > at The Octopus list shortly after Cooper got shot dead. > Mike > Please send as far and wide as possible. > > Thanks, > > Robert Sterling > Editor, The Konformist > http://www.konformist.com > http://www.konformist.com/2002/cooper/cooper-kt.htm > http://www.konformist.com/2002/cooper/cooper-decker.htm > > http://www.konformist.com/2002/cooper/cooper-kt.htm > > Blues for Bill Cooper: > > Bill Cooper Beholds A Pale Horse Rider > > Kenn Thomas > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Editor, Steamshovel Press > > Jim Keith always wanted to be "a hip Bill Cooper", he said to me > on > several occasions. My own experience told me that there would > never > be more than one Milton William Cooper, who was shot to death by > deputies in Eager, Arizona on November 6. My attention was first > drawn to him by the title of his book, Behold A Pale Horse, which > was > also the title of the first draft of Danny Casolaro's Octopus > manuscript. Although I didn't share Jim's ambition, I did become > fascinated by his unusual outlook and I mourn his passing. > > I met Cooper on a couple of occasions at UFO conferences. He was > anything but "hip". In fact, he seemed to take great delight in > publicly insulting the conferees that had come to hear him speak. > > They, in turn, could not get enough of the insults. They lined up > to > attend the workshop following his lecture, which had a separate > attendance fee. It contrasted sharply with the half-dozen people > who > signed up for my modest effort to lecture on the UFO involvements > of > Wilhelm Reich. > > That happened before Cooper changed his mind about the > extraterrestrial presence. He was calling people "sheeple" then, > not > yet labeling them "ufoologists". At the conference I encountered > him > next, he was urging his fans to buy into billboard advertising > and > give him their proxy vote in decisions over what gets put on the > billboards. His messages would be more anti-NWO than pro-UFO. > About > UFOs, he later would write, "For many years I sincerely believed > that > an extraterrestrial threat existed and that it was the most > important > driving force behind world events. I was wrong and for that I > most > deeply and humbly apologize." > > He never abandoned his basic rant, however. "Many years ago I had > > access to a set of documents," wrote Cooper, "that I eventually > realized was the plan for the destruction of the United States of > > America and the formation of a socialist totalitarian world > government. The plan was contained within a set of Top Secret > documents with the title 'MAJESTYTWELVE'." His memories of this > were > chillingly detailed: "There was no space between majesty and > twelve." > As I have pointed out elsewhere, credible documentary evidence, > involving nobody's misremembered experience, exists that such a > group, MJ12, does or did indeed exist. > > I clashed with Cooper once in Rob Sterling's Konformist > newsletter. > He made some disparaging remarks about John Lennon, calling the > singer some kind of spokesman for world socialism. I had to point > out > to him that Lennon actually was a filthy rich, capitalist rock > star. > At another point, I was happy to pass along a tape of answering > machine messages left by Cooper on the machine of someone he > believed > stole the master video copy of his "Driver Did It" lecture - in > which > he claimed that William Greer, the driver of JFK's Lincoln on > November 22, turned and shot the president with a .45. The > answering > machine messages were hilarious in that each one reflected Cooper > > becoming progressively more drunk, and ended finally with him > threatening to visit the alleged thief to slash the tires of his > car. > > I even came to Cooper's defense over the JFK thing. A .45 slug > was > found on Elm Street. The Lincoln's brake lights do come on in the > > Zapruder film, suggesting that Greer did have some involvement in > the > conspiracy. True, Cooper was using an atrociously bad copy of the > Z- > film to "show" that Greer with a gun in his hand. (The full story > of > the "Driver Did It" theory is found in Lars Hanson's unpublished > affidavit on the subject.) But let's not throw the baby out with > the > bathwater, I argued. At the very least, Bill Cooper created a > cartoon > version of conspiracy reality that attracted more attention to > the > serious issues. by the way: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agentsmiley/message/720 > > Cooper was right in his broad strokes. He certainly was not alone > in > looking into the political and cultural environment and seeing an > > evil monster, and he was more articulate than most in getting > across > what that feels like. Cooper was no doubt right about the IRS > being a > legal fiction, and fully aware that it's a fiction protected by > the > brutal reality of police force. He thought it shouldn't be that > way. > His tax resistance was the concrete expression of opposition to > the > encroaching forces of oppression-an enemy shared by anti-WTO > demonstrators and the militias alike. Unlike many of those > weekend > warriors, Cooper took the bullet for what he believed in. > > Those who have been quick to point out that the shooting death of > > William Cooper did not arise from the federal indictments against > > him, but rather from the local police responding to Cooper's > dangerous behavior, ignore the close cooperation that exists > between > local police and federal authorities. But neither group has a > monopoly on bad schemes to capture and imprison harmless > citizens. > Cooper had lost a leg in military service. Feds or no, there were > > certainly other, non-lethal ways to get Bill Cooper under arrest. > > Those who admired Cooper, those who were appalled by him and the > rest > of us in between cannot help but wonder why his fate seemed > inevitable. > > > http://www.konformist.com/2002/cooper/cooper-decker.htm > > Don Ecker on Bill Cooper & Kenn Thomas > > (Don Ecker is a radio host and the Director of Research for UFO > Magazine) > > Bill Cooper Beholds A Pale Horse Rider > > While Kenn is getting all teary-eyed over Cooper, I fail to > seehim > mention anything on the police officer that Cooper gunned > > down. > > Deputy Robert Martinez was a Sheriff's Deputy with four years on > the > job. A Gulf War Veteran, U.S. Marine Corp, Martinez was a > tactical > officer at the time of the shooting. He was one of those guys who > try > to make it so the rest of us can sleep safely at night. He has a > wife > and three children waiting for him at home. > > What say Kenn? Why don't we all shed a few tears for Deputy > Martinez > and his family? > > Well, I suppose it was inevitable. Kenn does a teary-eyed obit on > > Bill Cooper. After giving the likes of another charlatan ( Sean > Morton ) the "benefit of doubt" with his crazy stories, I guess > Kenn > must be easy to impress. > > I do not mourn Coopers passing. I predicted an end like this for > Cooper 10 years ago. Why? Well I am doing an article on > assignment > for an international publication on this story so I am going to > hold > off for now. > > However.................... > > Milton William Cooper was a paranoid, lying and scheming > opportunist > who capitalized on the ignorance of the masses. He was an alcohol > > abuser and the police came to his home in Long Beach, California > several times for domestic disturbances when Cooper would be > under > the influence and abusing his wife. > don, you are definitely a piece of shit! you continue to maintain that the only people that get death threats are people who are off base...i can see why you don't experience the levels of harrasment that the people you attack do! http://www.konformist.com/2002/cooper/cooper-kt.htm http://www.konformist.com/2002/cooper/cooper-decker.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! 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