-Caveat Lector-

Dear Mermaid, I do not know if the silver holographic
square on credit cards  has any purpose or not. Do you or
does anyone reading this? Regardless, the ID card is a step
towards a mandatory smart-card citizen ID - gradualism,etc.

Mermaid, it is nice to have people from other countries in
this group. It is good to have news from other places & to
know that there are a raggle taggle thinking few there as
well.

I am sending an interesting article, if you have not
already read it.

                        Sincerely,
                                                molli



> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 5:00 PM
> > Subject: The Real Agenda
> >
> >
> > BUSH'S REAL AGENDA - TO CREATE WORLD DICTATORSHIP
WITHIN
> > FIVE YEARS
> >
> > Michael C. Ruppert
> >
> > Zbigniew Brzezinski /CFR/Grand Chessboard
> >
> > Nov 20, 2001
> >
> >
> >
> > "The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as
the
> > CFR, The Trilateral Commission __ founded by Brzezinski
> > for David Rockefeller __ and the Bilderberger Group,
have
> > prepared for and are now moving to implement open world
> > dictatorship within the next five years. They are not
> > fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against
> > citizens." __ Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D., former
German
> > defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO
> > Secretary General Manfred Werner
> >
> > >"[Brzezinski notes], quite clearly (p.53) that any
nation
> > >that might become predominant in Central Asia would
> > >directly threaten the current U.S. control of oil
> > >resources in the Persian Gulf. In reading the book it
> > >becomes clear why the U.S. had a direct motive for the
> > >looting of some $300 billion in Russian assets during
the
> > >1990s, destabilizing Russia's currency (1998) and
> > >ensuring that a weakened Russia would have to look
> > >westward to Europe for economic and political
survival,
> > >rather than southward to Central Asia. A dependent
Russia
> > >would lack the military, economic and political clout
to
> > >exert influence in the region and this weakening of
> > >Russia would explain why Russian President Vladimir
Putin
> > >has been such a willing ally of U.S. efforts to date."
> >
> > Zbigniew Brzezinski and the CFR Put War Plans In a 1997
> > Book
> >
> >
> >
> > It Is "A Blueprint for World Dictatorship," Says a
Former
> > German Defense and NATO Official Who Warned of Global
> > Domination in 1984, in an Exclusive Interview With FTW
> >
> > by Michael C. Ruppert
> >
> > [Copyright 2001. All Rights Reserved, Michael C.
Ruppert
> > and From The Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com
May
> > be copied or distributed for nonprofit purposes only.
> > Posting on any ".com" web site is prohibited without
> > express written consent from the author.]
> >
> > "THE GRAND CHESSBOARD _ American Primacy And It's
> > Geostrategic Imperatives," Zbigniew Brzezinski, Basic
> > Books, 1997.
> >
> > These are the very first words in the book: "Ever since
> > the continents started interacting politically, some
five
> > hundred years ago, Eurasia has been the center of world
> > power." __ p. xiii.
> >
> > Eurasia is all of the territory east of Germany and
> > Poland, stretching all the way through Russia and China
to
> > the Pacific Ocean. It includes the Middle East and most
of
> > the Indian subcontinent. The key to controlling
Eurasia,
> > says Brzezinski, is controlling the Central Asian
> > Republics. And the key to controlling the Central Asian
> > republics is Uzbekistan. Thus, it comes as no surprise
> > that Uzbekistan was forcefully mentioned by President
> > George W. Bush in his address to a joint session of
> > Congress just days after the attacks of September 11 as
> > the very first place that the U.S. military would be
> > deployed.
> >
> > As FTW has documented in previous stories, major
> > deployments of U.S. and British forces had taken place
> > before the attacks. And the U.S. Army and the CIA had
been
> > active in Uzbekistan for several years. There is now
> > evidence that what the world is witnessing is a cold
and
> > calculated war plan __ at least four years in the
making
> > __ and that, from reading Brzezinski's own words about
> > Pearl Harbor, the World Trade Center attacks were just
the
> > trigger needed to set the final conquest in motion.
> >
> >
> >
> > FTW, November 7, 2001, 1200 PST _ There's a quote often
> > attributed to Allen Dulles after it was noted that the
> > final 1964 report of the Warren Commission on the
> > assassination of JFK contained dramatic
inconsistencies.
> > Those inconsistencies, in effect, disproved the
> > Commission's own final conclusion that Lee Harvey
Oswald
> > acted alone on November 22, 1963. Dulles, a career spy,
> > Wall Street lawyer, the CIA director whom JFK had fired
> > after the 1961 Bay of Pigs fiasco __ and the Warren
> > Commission member who took charge of the investigation
and
> > final report __ is reported to have said, "The American
> > people don't read."
> >
> > Some Americans do read. So do Europeans and Asians and
> > Africans and Latin Americans.
> >
> > World events since the attacks of September 11, 2001
have
> > not only been predicted, but also planned, orchestrated
> > and __ as their architects would like to believe __
> > controlled. The current Central Asian war is not a
> > response to terrorism, nor is it a reaction to Islamic
> > fundamentalism. It is in fact, in the words of one of
the
> > most powerful men on the planet, the beginning of a
final
> > conflict before total world domination by the United
> > States leads to the dissolution of all national
> > governments. This, says Council on Foreign Relations
(CFR)
> > member and former Carter National Security Advisor,
> > Zbigniew Brzezinski, will lead to nation states being
> > incorporated into a new world order, controlled solely
by
> > economic interests as dictated by banks, corporations
and
> > ruling elites concerned with the maintenance (by
> > manipulation and war) of their power. As a means of
> > intimidation for the unenlightened reader who happens
upon
> > this frightening plan __ the plan of the CFR __
Brzezinski
> > offers the alternative of a world in chaos unless the
U.S.
> > controls the planet by whatever means are necessary and
> > likely to succeed.
> >
> >
> > This position is corroborated by Dr. Johannes B.
Koeppl,
> > Ph.D. a former German defense ministry official and
> > advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred
Werner.
> > On November 6, he told FTW, "The interests behind the
Bush
> > Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral
Commission
> > __ founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller __ and
the
> > Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now
moving
> > to implement open world dictatorship within the next
five
> > years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They
are
> > fighting against citizens."
> >
> > Brzezinski's own words __ laid against the current
> > official line that the United States is waging a war to
> > end terrorism __ are self_incriminating. In an ongoing
> > series of articles, FTW has consistently established
that
> > the U.S. government had foreknowledge of the World
Trade
> > Center attacks and chose not to stop them because it
> > needed to secure public approval for a war that is now
in
> > progress. It is a war, as described by Vice President
Dick
> > Cheney, "that may not end in our lifetimes." What that
> > means is that it will not end until all armed groups,
> > anywhere in the world, which possess the political,
> > economic or military ability to resist the imposition
of
> > this dictatorship, have been destroyed.
> >
> > These are the "terrorists" the U.S. now fights in
> > Afghanistan and plans to soon fight all over the globe.
> >
> > Before exposing Brzezinski (and those he represents)
with
> > his own words, or hearing more from Dr. Koeppl, it is
> > worthwhile to take a look at Brzezinski's background.
> >
> > According to his resume Brzezinski, holding a 1953
Ph.D.
> > from Harvard, lists the following achievements:
> >
> > __ Counselor, Center for Strategic and International
> > Studies __ Professor of American Foreign Policy, Johns
> > Hopkins University __ National Security Advisor to
> > President Jimmy Carter (1977_81)
> >
> > __ Trustee and founder of the Trilateral Commission
> >
> > __ International advisor of several major US/Global
> > corporations
> >
> > __ Associate of Henry Kissinger
> >
> > __ Under Ronald Reagan _ member of NSC_Defense
Department
> > Commission on Integrated Long_Term Strategy
> >
> > __ Under Ronald Reagan _ member of the President's
Foreign
> > Intelligence Advisory Board
> >
> > __ Past member, Board of Directors, The Council on
Foreign
> > Relations
> >
> > __ 1988 _ Co_chairman of the Bush National Security
> > Advisory Task Force.
> >
> > Brzezinski is also a past attendee and presenter at
> > several conferences of the Bliderberger group __ a
> > non_partisan affiliation of the wealthiest and most
> > powerful families and corporations on the planet.
> >
> > The Grand Chessboard
> >
> > Brzezinski sets the tone for his strategy by describing
> > Russia and China as the two most important countries __
> > almost but not quite superpowers __ whose interests
that
> > might threaten the U.S. in Central Asia. Of the two,
> > Brzezinski considers Russia to be the more serious
threat.
> > Both nations border Central Asia. In a lesser context
he
> > describes the Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Iran and Kazakhstan
as
> > essential "lesser" nations that must be managed by the
> > U.S. as buffers or counterweights to Russian and
Chinese
> > moves to control the oil, gas and minerals of the
Central
> > Asian Republics
> >
> > (Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan).
> >
> > He also notes, quite clearly (p.53) that any nation
that
> > might become predominant in Central Asia would directly
> > threaten the current U.S. control of oil resources in
the
> > Persian Gulf. In reading the book it becomes clear why
the
> > U.S. had a direct motive for the looting of some $300
> > billion in Russian assets during the 1990s,
destabilizing
> > Russia's currency (1998) and ensuring that a weakened
> > Russia would have to look westward to Europe for
economic
> > and political survival, rather than southward to
Central
> > Asia. A dependent Russia would lack the military,
economic
> > and political clout to exert influence in the region
and
> > this weakening of Russia would explain why Russian
> > President Vladimir Putin has been such a willing ally
of
> > U.S. efforts to date. (See FTW Vol. IV, No. 1 _ March
31,
> > 2001)
> >
> > An examination of selected quotes from "The Grand
> > Chessboard," in the context of current events reveals
the
> > darker agenda behind military operations that were
planned
> > long before September 11th, 2001.
> >
> > "The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed
a
> > tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time
ever,
> > a non_Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key
arbiter
> > of Eurasian power relations but also as the world's
> > paramount power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet
> > Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a
> > Western Hemisphere power, the United States, as the
sole
> > and, indeed, the first truly global power. (p. xiii)
> >
> > "But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian
> > challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and
thus
> > of also challenging America. The formulation of a
> > comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is
> > therefore the purpose of this book. (p. xiv)
> >
> > "The attitude of the American public toward the
external
> > projection of American power has been much more
> > ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement
in
> > World War II largely because of the shock effect of the
> > Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. (pp 24_5)
> >
> > "For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia.
Now
> > a non_Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia __ and
> > America's global primacy is directly dependent on how
long
> > and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian
> > continent is sustained. (p.30)
> >
> > "America's withdrawal from the world or because of the
> > sudden emergence of a successful rival __ would produce
> > massive international instability. It would prompt
global
> > anarchy." (p.30)
> >
> > "In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is
> > critical. Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and
is
> > geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia
would
> > control two of the world's three most advanced and
> > economically productive regions. A mere glance at the
map
> > also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost
> > automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering
the
> > Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically
peripheral
> > to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of
the
> > world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's
> > physical wealth is there as well, both in its
enterprises
> > and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per
cent
> > of the world's GNP and about three_fourths of the
world's
> > known energy resources." (p.31)
> >
> > "Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify
the
> > geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the
> > power to cause a potentially important shift in the
> > international distribution of power and to decipher the
> > central external goals of their respective political
> > elites and the likely consequences of their seeking to
> > attain them; second, to formulate specific U.S.
policies
> > to offset, co_opt, and/or control the above. (p.40)
> >
> > "To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the
more
> > brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand
imperatives
> > of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and
> > maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep
> > tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the
> > barbarians from coming together." (p.40)
> >
> > "Henceforth, the United States may have to determine
how
> > to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push
America
> > out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as
a
> > global power." (p.55)
> >
> > "Uzbekistan _ with its much more ethnically homogeneous
> > population of approximately 25 million and its leaders
> > emphasizing the country's historic glories __ has
become
> > increasingly assertive in affirming the region's new
> > postcolonial status." (p.95)
> >
> > "Thus, even the ethnically vulnerable Kazakhstan joined
> > the other Central Asian states in abandoning the
Cyrillic
> > alphabet and replacing it with Latin script as adapted
> > earlier by Turkey. In effect, by the mid_1990s a bloc,
> > quietly led by Ukraine and comprising Uzbekistan,
> > Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan and sometimes also Kazakhstan,
> > Georgia and Moldova, had informally emerged to obstruct
> > Russian efforts to use the CIS as the tool for
political
> > integration." (p.114)
> >
> > "Hence, support for the new post_Soviet states __ for
> > geopolitical pluralism in the space of the former
Soviet
> > empire __ has to be an integral part of a policy
designed
> > to induce Russia to exercise unambiguously its European
> > option. Among these states. Three are geopolitically
> > especially important: Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, and
> > Ukraine." (p. 121)
> >
> > "Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most
> > populous of the central Asian states, represents the
major
> > obstacle to any renewed Russian control over the
region.
> > Its independence is critical to the survival of the
other
> > Central Asian states, and it is the least vulnerable to
> > Russian pressures." (p.121)
> >
> > Referring to an area he calls the "Eurasian Balkans"
and a
> > 1997 map in which he has circled the exact location of
the
> > current conflict __ describing it as the central region
of
> > pending conflict for world dominance __ Brzezinski
writes:
> > "Moreover, they [the Central Asian Republics] are of
> > importance from the standpoint of security and
historical
> > ambitions to at least three of their most immediate and
> > more powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey and
Iran,
> > with China also signaling an increasing political
interest
> > in the region. But the Eurasian Balkans are infinitely
> > more important as a potential economic prize: an
enormous
> > concentration of natural gas and oil reserves is
located
> > in the region, in addition to important minerals,
> > including gold." (p.124)
> >
> > The world's energy consumption is bound to vastly
increase
> > over the next two or three decades. Estimates by the
U.S.
> > Department of energy anticipate that world demand will
> > rise by more than 50 percent between 1993 and 2015,
with
> > the most significant increase in consumption occurring
in
> > the Far East. The momentum of Asia's economic
development
> > is already generating massive pressures for the
> > exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy
and
> > the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are
> > known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that
> > dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North
> > Sea." (p.125)
> >
> > "Kazakhstan is the shield and Uzbekistan is the soul
for
> > the region's diverse national awakenings." (p.130)
> >
> > "Uzbekistan is, in fact, the prime candidate for
regional
> > leadership in Central Asia." (p.130)
> >
> > "Once pipelines to the area have been developed,
> > Turkmenistan's truly vast natural gas reserves augur a
> > prosperous future for the country's people. (p.132)
> >
> > "In fact, an Islamic revival __ already abetted from
the
> > outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia __ is
> > likely to become the mobilizing impulse for the
> > increasingly pervasive new nationalisms, determined to
> > oppose any reintegration under Russian __ and hence
> > infidel __ control." (p.133).
> >
> > "For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain
> > Geostrategic depth through political influence in
> > Afghanistan __ and to deny to Iran the exercise of such
> > influence in Afghanistan and Tajikistan __ and to
benefit
> > eventually from any pipeline construction linking
Central
> > Asia with the Arabian Sea." (p.139)
> >
> > "Moreover, sensible Russian leaders realize that the
> > demographic explosion underway in the new states means
> > that their failure to sustain economic growth will
> > eventually create an explosive situation along Russia's
> > entire southern frontier." (p.141) [This would explain
why
> > Putin would welcome U.S. military presence to stabilize
> > the region.]
> >
> > "Turkmenistan has been actively exploring the
construction
> > of a new pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan to
the
> > Arabian Sea." (p.145)
> >
> > "It follows that America's primary interest is to help
> > ensure that no single power comes to control this
> > geopolitical space and that the global community has
> > unhindered financial and economic access to it." (p148)
> >
> > "China's growing economic presence in the region and
its
> > political stake in the area's independence are also
> > congruent with America's interests." (p.149)
> >
> > "America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia
is
> > the globe's central arena. Hence, what happens to the
> > distribution of power on the Eurasian continent will be
of
> > decisive importance to America's global primacy and to
> > America's historical legacy." (p.194)
> >
> > "the Eurasian Balkans __ threatens to become a cauldron
of
> > ethnic conflict and great __power rivalry." (p.195)
> >
> > "Without sustained and directed American involvement,
> > before long the forces of global disorder could come to
> > dominate the world scene. And the possibility of such a
> > fragmentation is inherent in the geopolitical tensions
not
> > only of today's Eurasia but of the world more
generally."
> > (p.194)
> >
> > "With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and
Asia,
> > any successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as
a
> > whole and be guided by a Geostrategic design." (p.197)
> >
> > "That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order
> > to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could
> > eventually seek to challenge America's primacy." (p.198)
> >
> > "The most immediate task is to make certain that no state
> > or combination of states gains the capacity to expel the
> > United States from Eurasia or even to diminish
> > significantly its decisive arbitration role." (p.198)
> >
> > "In the long run, global politics are bound to become
> > increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic
> > power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is
> > not only the first, as well as the only, truly global
> > superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last."
> > (p.209)
> >
> > "Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly
> > multi_cultural society, it may find it more difficult to
> > fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in
> > the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived
> > direct external threat." (p.211) [Emphasis added]
> >
> > The Horror _ And Comments From Someone Who Worked With
> > Brzezinski
> >
> > Brzezinski's book is sublimely arrogant. While singing the
> > praises of the IMF and the World Bank, which have
> > economically terrorized nations on every continent, and
> > while totally ignoring the worldwide terrorist actions of
> > the U.S. government that have led to genocide; cluster
> > bombings of civilian populations from Kosovo, to Laos, to
> > Iraq, to Afghanistan; the development and battlefield use
> > of both biological and chemical agents such as Sarin gas;
> > and the financial rape of entire cultures it would leave
> > the reader believing that such actions are for the good of
> > mankind.
> >
> > While seconded from the German defense ministry to NATO in
> > the late 1970s, Dr. Johannes Koeppl __ mentioned at the
> > top of this article __ traveled to Washington on more than
> > one occasion. He also met with Brzezinski in the White
> > House on more than one occasion. His other Washington
> > contacts included Steve Larabee from the CFR, John J.
> > McCloy, former CIA Director, economist Milton Friedman,
> > and officials from Carter's Office of Management and
> > Budget. He is the first person I have ever interviewed who
> > has made a direct presentation at a Bliderberger
> > conference and he has also made numerous presentations to
> > sub_groups of the Trilateral Commission. That was before
> > he spoke out against them.
> >
> > His fall from grace was rapid after he realized that
> > Brzezinski was part of a group intending to impose a world
> > dictatorship. "In 1983/4 I warned of a takeover of world
> > governments being orchestrated by these people. There was
> > an obvious plan to subvert true democracies and selected
> > leaders were not being chosen based upon character but
> > upon their loyalty to an economic system run by the elites
> > and dedicated to preserving their power.
> >
> > "All we have now are pseudo_democracies."
> >
> > Koeppl recalls meeting U.S. Congressman Larry McDonald in
> > Nuremburg in the early 80s. McDonald, who was then
> > contemplating a run for the Presidency, was a severe
> > critic of these elites. He was killed in the Russian
> > shootdown of Korean Air flight 007 in 1985. Koeppl
> > believes that it might have been an assassination. Over
> > the years many writers have made these allegations about
> > 007 and the fact that someone with Koeppl's credentials
> > believes that an entire plane full of passengers would be
> > destroyed to eliminate one man offers a chilling opinion
> > of the value placed on human life by the powers that be.
> >
> > In 1983, Koeppl warned, through Op_Ed pieces published in
> > NEWSWEEK and elsewhere, that Brzezinski and the CFR were
> > part of an effort to impose a global dictatorship. His
> > fall from grace was swift. "It was a criminal society that
> > I was dealing with. It was not possible to publish anymore
> > in the so_called respected publications. My 30 year career
> > in politics ended.
> >
> > "The people of the western world have been trained to be
> > good consumers; to focus on money, sports cars, beauty,
> > consumer goods. They have not been trained to look for
> > character in people. Therefore what we need is education
> > for politicians, a form of training that instills in them
> > a higher sense of ethics than service to money. There is
> > no training now for world leaders. This is a shame because
> > of the responsibility that leaders hold to benefit all
> > mankind rather than to blindly pursue destructive paths.
> >
> > "We also need education for citizens to be more efficient
> > in their democracies, in addition to education for
> > politicians that will create a new network of elites based
> > upon character and social intelligence."
> >
> > Koeppl, who wrote his 1989 doctoral thesis on NATO
> > management, also authored a 1989 book __ largely ignored
> > because of its controversial revelations __ entitled "The
> > Most Important Secrets in the World." He maintains a
> > German language web site at www.antaris.com and he can be
> > reached by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > As to the present conflict Koeppl expressed the gravest
> > concerns, "This is more than a war against terrorism. This
> > is a war against the citizens of all countries. The
> > current elites are creating so much fear that people don't
> > know how to respond. But they must remember. This is a
> > move to implement a world dictatorship within the next
> > five years. There may not be another
> >
> > chance."
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > ------- End of forwarded message -------
> >
>
>
>
>



-Caveat Lector-

Hi Molli
well it has a silver holographic square thingy on the front like you get on
a credit card.But as far as i know there is no magnetic strip on the back
ill have to check later.
The mermaid xx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Molli Wolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] id cards


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Dear Mermaid, Do you know if your daughter's ID card is a
> smart card, with personal info encoded in a magnetic strip
> on the back like a credit card?
>
Molli
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 1/13/02 3:37:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Anyone else on this list live in britain and have kids with these
obscene
> identity cards?
>
> Do they have this in the states? >>
>
> Not yet. At present, they issue school ID Cards to all the students. The
> stated reason is so the administration can tell who is a student and who
is
> not.
> BHoward
>
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