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From: "Edward Britton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Hay, don't kill the messenger.  I just passed it on. :-)

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>  Personally, and while agreeing with you at least in principle (in my
saner
> moments),  I'm a bit surprised we don't see even more of this
neo-tribalistic sabre > rattling.

I think we're seeing more of it now than ever, or, in "ever" I mean really
in the last 20 years or so.

> As for averting any coming conflict between us WASPS and the "devilish
> Islamic" world, my solution is relatively simple; stay the hell out of the
> rest of the world's business unless we or ours are attacked.  Then and
only
> then will we have any claim to "righteous indignation."  (Yes, the
> preceding statement ignores--temporarily--the potential for retaliation on
> the basis of our past misdeeds.)

Yep, that's my take. I know it's seen as isolationist, but, holy ... well,
my goodness, at least it eliminates the potential for further misdeeds, and
puts that squarely on the table when talking peace. Don't like the US? Don't
come here. But then again that also makes trade negotiations difficult,
especially if there are tariffs involved, and I'm not a true libertarian in
that sense. It's complicated to be sure, but at least not selling arms to
other nations (which goes along with the trade situation - we are the
largest arms dealer in the world), and without supporting foreign wars in
any sense, then we do have a leg upon which to stand. Right now all we have
is a crutch, and that is splintering.

> Nevertheless, and somewhat safely assuming that the hawkish mind will have
> its way, the issue is not really about fighting a billion Muslims; it's
> about eliminating a billion Muslims. There's a big, and ominous,
> difference.  I think you missed the suggestion embedded within the
author's
> title.

Hmmm ... so the difference is more *convincing* a billion Muslims that
they're wrong? Or maybe I'm missing what it is that you, as the messenger,
are suggesting. And don't take my own tone there as ominous - I am pretty
sure that I know what the author is suggesting, but, then what do you, as
messenger, suggest? I know we don't always ask that of each other here, and
not trying to put you on the spot. Or are you rather illustrating the
author's suggestion as ominous?

- jt

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