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--- Begin Message --- -Caveat Lector- Sutton never wrote a word he did not believe.
Most of what is written as history is a fairy tail. I have never seen the real WATERGATE story in print. And you will not find these insights into your questions below in print. In 1980 I was working for the publisher of Anthony Sutton, Johnny Johnson http://www.dcia.com/de-prop.html Reading that blue line will prepare you for the rest.
After working for Reagan as an alternative to the Tri-lats I was in the home office of Barry Goldwater the Monday after the REPUBLICAN CONVENTION where Reagan selected Bush as his VP. The administrative director was my political professor for almost 10 years. He had played a big role at the convention. When I told him what a betrayal the selection of Bush was he responded with these words. I KNOW. IT WAS A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. DAVID ROCKEFELLER SENT KISSINGER AND WALTER CRONKITE TO TELL REAGAN AT THE CONVENTION "THIS IS THE BRUSH THAT WE WILL USE TO TAR YOU IF YOU DO NOT TAKE BUSH AS VP."
Senator Goldwater responded in his keynote speech, addressing the largest audience in convention history, THERE ARE DARK FORCES WORKING WITHIN THE UNITED STATES TO SUBVERT THE CONSTITUTION. THIS MAY BE THE LAST REPUBLICAN CONVENTION AND IN TWO WEEKS THE LAST DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION.
As we were speaking the secretary was taking hundreds of calls all the same. She would say, YES THAT IS WHAT THE SENATOR SAID. YES HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE TRILATERAL COMMISSION. YES. YES. YES.
Not one newspaper in the country commented on this blockbuster remark!! There was dead silence on the TV. Senator Goldwater realized he would never have such an opportunity like this again and he gave up his opposition to the Rockfellers from this point on and made his accommodations.
The Paul Wirich/Rush Limbaugh brand of CONSERATIVISM is totally at odds with all of Goldwater's principals. Their brand is nothing more than a TROJAN HORSE for the Rockfeller Party line.
Brian Downing Quig
bakeknedeisen wrote:
I was obsessed with Sutton's writings 1978-81 which, that's right,
would have made me ages 9-12. I would tell my friends' parents that
offered me a glass of Coke "Coca-cola is a member of the Trilateral
Commission, of course not" and did book report/ presentation on
Carter as a pawn of a world government.
I was a staunch Reaganite then, which leads me to a speculation based
on vague memories – Sutton's book eventually led to discussion of the
Trilateral Commission on the corporate media in which candidates for
office would frequently be asked about membership to oligarchic
organizations, leading to buzz phrases like "No, I'm not a club
joiner myself" and "The Council on Foreign Relations meets very
infrequently.. I thought nothing of signing up."
This attention came in part from Sutton' s grass roots readership and
support – but I am wondering if he wasn't spinned for a `darker
purpose.' The 1980 race saw Trilateralist Carter running for
reelection in a race that Poppy Bush hoped would be his payoff for
getting Nixon and Nelson Rockefeller out of the way and making sure
that Carter stays red-eyed and praying on camera over the hostages
that Bush is keeping in Tehran. There was, though, at the time, a
ministerial conflict going on between the Bush gang and the `New
Right' which was Reagan, Paul Weyrich, Jesse Helms, Al Haig, John
Lehman, and the then `young Turks' of the House: Gingrich, Trent
Lott, Phil Crane, Vin Weber, etc.
Reagan was not a Trilateralist. Bush was not only one but the
quintessence of one, for reasons obvious both to those versed in his
CIA dealings and regular voters who saw his early attempts at
connecting with the hoi polloi after being in the inside so long.
Who would want Reagan rather than Bush? Defense contractors, because
of the aggressive mandate of Reagan's to accelerate post-Vietnam
military spending – bondholders longing for the increased spending
and lower taxes. Note that W. has learned this lesson and not only
shifted to the right on `moral' issues, but adapted Reagan's mantras
of tax cuts and huge defense increases rather than the Ford-
Bush `stay the course' policies.
So was Sutton hyped up to help Reagan, Boeing, and the bond markets?
After Reagan's victory, the media attention to the Trilateral
Commission died off, as the main players decided that they had to be
more secretive and not have world government organizations that met
formally and elected officers, etc. The situation stayed the same
but the official Commission was retired. This theory takes nothing
away from the importance of Sutton's writings.
--- In cia-drugs@y ..., "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:It's not hard to get non-profit or charitable or religious status,
but it has to be done according to an IRS formula. It looks
to me like obtaining a government franchise. It's also an
American style business formula, and does cede control
to people. You have to search out people you think you
can trust to let you run your org.
-Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: mcurb
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 10:25 AM
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Antony C. Sutton AND THE ROTTEN STATE OFOUR ART
Brian,
You have got to understand that charitable contributions are tax
deductible only if they are contributed to genuine charitable
organizations.
The IRS will gladly deduct my contributions to March of Dimes;
however, If I write down that I contributed $250 to AnthonySutton,they will not allow it.
In addition, If Sutton had applied for 501c3 status as acharitableentity, then his tax status would have been controlled by theverypeople whom he was atttempting to expose. His independence wouldhavebeen sacrificed. Ask Stanley Montieth about this stuff - he knows
better than anyone.
Mark C. Urban (shortened to)
M.C. Urban (shortened to)
mcurb (no scottish clan involvement whatsoever)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Brian Downing Quig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antony C. Sutton AND THE ROTTEN STATE OF OUR ART
>
> Kris,
>
> Below you are giving us one of the great deep dark secrets ofthetrade
> of independent research into the field of WHO REALLY RUNSTHINGS?> NOBODY PAYS FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE. WHAT IS MORE, THOSE WHOKNOWARE
> CANNIBALIZED BY THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO KNOW. I wish I had a
dollar for
> every blow hard who thought they were doing good by selling the
work of
> those like Anthony Sutton and giving back nothing. I wouldthenhave
> the money to publish my own research.
>
> I saw Sutton publish 28+ killer books all far above theexcellenceof
> all best selling books while not receiving anything for his
effort. It
> is hard to imagine what kept the man going.
>
> Why do the pathetic people not support researchers like thiswhenthey
> give copiously to the MARCH OF DIMES? The reason is FEAR.They donot
> want to give because they are afraid giving will produce
repercussions
> for them. Raising money to oppose the foul schemes ofbillionairesis
> so difficult that one can raise more putting the effort into
flipping
> burgers at McDONALDS.
>
> ALL THAT I KNOW IN TRUE OPPOSITION TO THE FOUL SCHEMES OF
BILLIONAIRES
> ARE SELF FINANCING STRUGGLING INDIVIDUALS.
>
> Brian Downing Quig
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 6/18/02 12:20:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]writes:> >
> >>AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT. i thought that was releasedearlyas an
> >>ebook somewhere.
> >>
> >
> > No, I have put and others have posted parts of it, but it wastheonly book
> >that was/is paying any royalties to Mr. Sutton.
> >
> >None of the sites on line nor CPA which has been selling someofhis books
> >have paid Mr. Sutton anything for the use of his works. It is
shameless. Mr
> >Sutton is/was not a wealthy man.
> >
> >Om
> >K
> >
> >
> >The books has much more than can be presented in etext. And is
available at
> >www.trineday.com
> >
> >
> >Please let us stay on topic and be civil.
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> >OM
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