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But those bent on posing China as "America's new major enemy" won't quit. In his new book Seeds of Fire, author Gordon Thomas claims that Beijing had an actual role in the 9-11 attacks. ===================================== this piece hardly stands as a rebuttal to THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE FOLLOWING: FACT: China bought four hundred million dollars worth of the very 757's that struck the World Trade Center. Someone needs to explain to me why this was done if these jets had just been shown to be vulnerable. Boeing signs huge China deal http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1574000/1574486.stm FACT: The international cabals we have been often speaking of (or CLUBS if you prefer) always seem to cross paths with Henry Kissinger. FACT: Last year, in the spring, Kissinger and his CFR buddies presented China with what was allegedly new incriminating evidence regarding the Tiennamen square incident years ago. You've heard a lot of mixed info on Lyndon LaRouche for sure. This is because his research department is phenomenal but his conclusions as to what to do about he world he paints with an accurate brush are questionable. It IS he that reports this information. Here is the url. Take it in context with the following two items. http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2001/2803_cfr.html FACT: Kissinger now sits as "top advisor" to a huge Chines oil firm. What does TOP advisor exactly mean unless he is calling the shots. http://www.cnooc.com.cn/english/news/news_detail.asp?idnews=352 FACT: THIS happened on September 6, 2001: "Chinese authorities shut down an outspoken Internet bulletin board last week after students posted messages about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre, officials announced yesterday." http://www.dfn.org/focus/china/baiyun.htm also see: "Hu Jintao was the "democracy" advocate for Tianamen Square who was arrested. I put that in quotation marks because the student's demonstrating were not demonstrating about democracy per se. They were medical student's protesting the US pharmaceutical complex experimenting on Chinese citzens and organ harvesting....." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/9815 FACT: Soon after September 11, "President" Bush embarked on a rather extensive trip to China, the details of which managed to not be disclosed. FACT: Jiang Zemin's personal jet was reported as being heavily bugged some months ago and they accused the U.S. If America WAS eavesdropping on Zemin's conversations it would seem to indicate that U.S. surveillance of key Chinese leaders had been increased or that the cautiousness of Chinese dignitaries had increased, either way indicating that the two giants were locked in, at least, a Pr battle. With the links throughout the rest of this text, I hope to demonstrate that there was a cyberwar going on that was at a crescendo on in August and September. Along with that, of course, goes an information war. see January 19, 2002 US caught bugging Jiang's jet http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg11609.html FACT: The western part of the United States, of a more zen mindset than the East, NEVER seems to be hit with terrorist attacks. Microsoft is also stronger in the west than the east, where AOL dominates more thoroughly. In the business arena and in public relations, they are often at odds with each other. FACT: The eastern U.S. powers have targetted Microsoft, for good or bad. FACT: Chinese persuaders are more likely to reach west coast CEO's than on the east coast. Gates now operates out of Seattle. FACT: The defenses that would have to have been subverted on September 11 are largely computerized. If you haven't seen this already, see: a piece of software and some behavior modivication http://rockymountain.indymedia.org/front.php3? article_id=2999&group=webcast FACT: Soon after September 11, the Department of Defense switched their computers to Apple operating systems which is highly incompatible with PC's, their software, and hence their modes of cyberattack. FACT: The DOD released stills show a jet fighter slamming into the pentagon but we cannot really tell WHOSE jet fighter it is. see: http://www.bosankoe.btinternet.co.uk/message.htm FACT: If this jet fighter is not of American origin, then it would explain why, in the throes of conspiracy propagation, they released it: to give intelligent investigators a hint. Unless this information came out under the auspices of eastern powers. Then it means that it is a "gentle" way of letting us in on the threat. The information that dawns slowly is the information less likely to invoke revolt. FACT: The geographic realities of the war in Afghanistan, the strengthened U.S. presence in the Phillipines, the recent battle between a South Korean and a North Korean ship, the courthship of India, and the courtship of Russia indicate a definite advancement upon the vicinity of the heart of Asia: China. FACT: The Taliban, while possibly not associated with September 11, would provide a convenient, temporary scapegoat. By invading Afghanistan, U.S. forces could advance on China. By enlisting the aid of India and Russia, both can hope to eventually be rid of their biggest and most immediate threat. By MAINTAINING STRONG RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL, we can utilize Mossad intelligence to keep track of a variety of Islamic nations that have shown stronger ties with China than any other major power. In this scenario, the Taliban could theoretically have played a role but if it did, it is likely that fabricating evidence to maintain a mandate would have been be unnecessary. ABOUT WORMS, VIRII, AND OTHER RECENT FORMS OF ELECTRONIC HARRASSMENT The online activist community has recently been struck by a barrage of various cyber-attacks. A vast majority of them have simulated activists' email addresses to send out pro-Israeli and anti- Palestinian propaganda. This would seem to implicate Israel and its allies right? Wrong. If Israel and its allies (like the behemoth that sits in D.C.) wanted to subvert American voices it would be easy. I submit that if a "Zionist" entity wanted to simulate our addies and cause havoc and to discredit us, "it" would undoubtedly be a bit smarter than to send out emails en masse of a nature known to be contrary to what we have all stood for loudly and firmly. This would automatically discredit the authenticity of such emails. Sending an email in your name to the very people that have already been receiving your ideas in such a manner that it is automatically deemed suspicious sounds a little more like an operation designed in reverse, i.e. by ANTI-Israelis. Please see the following: February 2, 2001 Chinese officials shut down 127 illegal Internet cafes http://www.dfn.org/news/news000131.htm#chinanet April 11, 2001 A Chinese Call to Hack U.S. http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,42982,00.html April 27, 2001 FBI Warns of Chinese Hack Threat http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,43417,00.html April 30, 2001 It's (Cyber) War: China vs. U.S. http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,43437,00.html JUNE 25, 2001 What Is Bill Gates Planning for China? Now that AOL has partnered with Legend, how will Microsoft respond? It isn't saying, which may mean a surprise is in store http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jun2001/nf20010625_598.htm JULY 9, 2001 AOL and China: Out One Door, In Another? As it makes a strategic withdrawal from Hong Kong, the Web giant may have plans to return with the help of Legend, its new mainland partner http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2001/nf2001079_790.htm Chinese computer giant Legend Holdings, AOL, and Microsoft � some bitter rivalry http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&q=Microsoft% 2CChina%2CAOL%2C2001%2CLegend August 1, 2001 China Tightens Internet Controls http://www.hrw.org/press/2001/08/china-0801.htm August 8, 2001 Computer infection troubles China http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/east/08/08/china.code.red/? related August 14, 2001 Anti-virus groups say the Leaves worm arrived as an e-mail that appeared to come from Microsoft as a security bulletin. It was discovered July 9. http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/08/14/hacking.arrest/ August 30, 2001 US May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship http://www.techtv.com/news/internet/story/0,24195,3345146,00.html August 30, 2001 AOL sued by Muslims over chat room harassment http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&q=% 22AOL+sued+by+Muslims+over+chat+room+harassment%22 August 30, 2001 Pentagon gives go-ahead to Grid http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2001/0827/web-dod-08-30-01.asp August 31, 2001 Code Red virus traced to China http://www.guardian.co.uk/internetnews/story/0,7369,545072,00.html August 31, 2001 Customs halts export to China, charges 2 http://www.politechbot.com/p-02453.html September 4, 2001 Bush Reverts to Satellites for China http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/3/210022.shtml September 5, 2001 Pentagon to Develop Anthrax http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/4/171823.shtml September 6, 2001 Feds Stop Seeking Microsoft Breakup http://speakout.com/activism/apstories/10102-1.html September 6, 2001 China Said Planning Military Buildup http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&q=% 22China+Said+Planning+Military+Buildup%22 September 7, 2001 China ready to deploy its first mobile ICBMs http://taiwansecurity.org/News/2001/WT-090601.htm September 7, 2001 'Code Blue' Worm Strikes in China, May Migrate http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/13405.html ~~~~~ Other pertinent links - AFTER September 11 Sep. 21, 2001 The change grants China's Web-using public access to the previously unviewable sites of The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, San Francisco Chronicle and Boston Globe, which were blocked as recently as Sunday. It was unclear exactly what day the unblocking occurred. http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,47017,00.html October 7, 2001 Chinese troops pour into Afghanistan http://www.google.com/search?q=% 22chinese+troops+pour+into+afghanistan%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8 November 21, 2001 China closes 17,000 Internet cafes http://www.dfn.org/focus/china/internetcafes-closed.htm December 27, 2001 China Moves Troops to Diffuse Indian War Threat http://www.paknews.com/flash.php?id=1&date1=2001-12-28 With a total media blackout of the actual fighting in Afghanistan, how are we to know if this report has any merit? It DOES fit a pattern. January 2002 China announces new Net regulations http://www.dfn.org/focus/china/shutdown.htm#jan2002 January 11, 2002 Pakistan gets first batch of Chinese fighter aircraft http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/3018 February 28, 2002 AMERICA'S WAR ON TERRORISM AND CHINESE STRATEGY http://china.jamestown.org/pubs/view/cwe_002_005_004.htm May 17, 2002 A news agency that just "picked up" Alexander Haig as a board member AFTER September 11 ceases to be critical of the Bush administration and totes the CFR party line on China. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/17/25858.shtml May 17, 2002 Chinese leaders seek allies against US encirclement http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/may2002/chin-m17.shtml Much more at http://www.google.com/search? q=China,August,2001,U.S.,computer&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF- 8&oe=UTF8&start=100&sa=N Want to know why Bill Cooper was REALLY killed? Judging by the following link, he knew China was behind September 11. Entries from September 8th, 9th, and 10th are missing from his newswire. http://www.williamcooper.com/vnsnewsarchives901a.html CYBER ATTACKS AND SEPT 11TH 2001 http://community-2.webtv.net/OOOHyaaa/CYBERATTACKS/ U.S. High Tech Trade with China and Hong Kong 1990-2000 http://www.tiaonline.org/marketdev/public_files/USITO_IT_Report_-_US- China_HT_Trade_Analysis.pdf Re: U.S. High Tech Trade with China and Hong Kong 1990-2000 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/10122 ~~~~~ Was the world trade center attacked with living hijackers or by remote control? ..or both? http://rockymountain.indymedia.org/front.php3? article_id=2999&group=webcast ALSO,... important snips from http://rockymountain.indymedia.org/front.php3? article_id=2998&group=webcast ~snip~ I have it on good information that Paul W. Lewis the American Baptist Missionary in Burma and Thailand to the Lahu and Akha was a CIA agent, upper management. ~snip~ I have searched widely on the net and there is almost no paper trail on Paul W (white?) Lewis on the web. He now lives in Claremont California at a misson retirement center but people also advise that he is a wealthy man. ~snip~ Source says Paul W. Lewis was involved in shipments worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars over the years. ~snip~ If this Lewis is the same guy in Yunna there is a large covert weapons facility in the interior of Yunnan that is reputed to be conducting human trials on biowepons AND those same labs are rumored to have created a SUPER Heroin using steroids to counteract the wasting common with heroine addiction. ~snip~ ...the steroid was hGH and it was a cloned source from... ~snip~ It was tainted with clostridium and it was killig people. Does any of this ring a bell... ~snip~ KYRGYZSTAN IS THREATENED WITH THE NEW KIND OF HEROIN http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/2229 consider the point that it is osama's creation potential propaganda ~snip~ Thanx for this.very unlikely it is Osama. Where does he have access to embrionic cloning facilities. I wonder if it is actually liquid or if they are referrring to the ability of the stuff to dissolve. In Europe the street stuff has to be cooked to dissolve it but this new stuff was smooth I understand. ~snipp~ In relation to this see: August 9, 2001 Government will promote IT in Azad Jammu and Kashmir http://www.most.gov.pk/frames/press_releases/aug9.htm September 12, 2001 China Will Help Pakistan In Setting Up of Technology Incubators http://www.most.gov.pk/frames/press_releases/sept12_2.htm October 3, 2001 Atta Holds Meeting With Microsoft http://www.most.gov.pk/frames/press_releases/oct23.htm Islamabad the October 23, 2001 Federal Minister for Science & Technology Prof. Atta-ur-Rahman who is visiting Paris held a meeting today with Mr. Jawwad Rahman, Regional Head of Microsoft. http://www.most.gov.pk/frames/press_releases/oct23.htm January 14, 2002 Pak-China Fund to be utilized for joint research http://www.most.gov.pk/frames/press_releases/PressReleases/Pak-China% 20Fund%20to%20be%20utilized%20for%20joint%20research%20-%2014-01- 2002.htm February 26, 2002 Pakistan and China to collaborate in IT, biotechnology http://www.most.gov.pk/frames/press_releases/PressReleases/Pakistan% 20and%20China%20to%20collaborate%20in%20IT,%20biotechnology%2026% 20Feb.htm March 2, 2002 Pakistan and Chine to intensify cooperation in biotechnology http://www.most.gov.pk/frames/press_releases/PressReleases/Pakistan% 20and%20Chine%20to%20intensify%20cooperation%20in%20biotechnology% 2002-03-02.htm ALSO FROM http://rockymountain.indymedia.org/front.php3? article_id=2998&group=webcast I doubt if you have heard of any of this news but it comes from the Shan Mountains and from the Middle east predates 911. I hop this will put things ins perspective for you. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/9604 ~snip~ For a time they were controlled by some drug lord camps in Cambodia. An Israeli by the name of Shaul Eisenberg was operating them will Pol Pot until his death in 97. I worked for Eisenberg in China.Our company was studying the viability of placing fiber optic cable for a telecom backbone in that cave network to service central asia. Since I had my Company in China seized I have had similar "threats". Vague disturbing coincidences. Odd phonecalls with taped messages, someone reading jokes...messages asking if I need health insurance, other tapes asking me to press 3 to find out about an art exhibit of Chinese art that was to begin in 2001...only they are still sending me the message, the abandoned truck left in the middle of the alley behind my house that the police did not ticket or move for 3 weeks even though the parking people came by 2ce a week for 3 weeks. The street cleaner had to go around the truck.. And there was another abondoned car behind my house with words like "Whore quit mess with our Homies or we are going to rape your black ass". But te best was after 911 when there was a HUGE sign outside my bedroom window that someone painted of the twin towers being hit with a plane and the words "Bitch are you happy now?" ~snip~ They like to scare you so don't scare. ~snip~ Did I tell you that I had sent some people to NY after word that some of my chinese employees had escaped China and had been employed to renovate the WTC? That was Sept 6 2001... ~snip~ The company was working on the developement of remote control aircraft and on Sept 6th I recieved word that some of my people may have been released o from china to work on a change over of ATC Radar. I was told they had been contacted to be in a work detail in the WTC which was being renovated. Ruppert Murdoch and Times warner had transferred some schema from ther office in Guangzhou to the US military for a test of the ROTHR radar system to be used on the Air traffic control system based in the naval station in Montauk NY. That magnetic ring in Montauk that controls the ATC system for the east coast has malfunctioned several times. CONCLUSIONS ============ Western powers may provoked an attack from China, deliberately. China responded lethally. Pakistan and China are creating the kinds of drugs that enslave. Now we know why it seemed absolutely imperative to the oil mafia to take the 2000 election. While western powers engage in warfare of a far less insidious nature (i.e. less guerrilla), NATO and its cronies wreak more destruction. I submit that this is essentially the repeating history of the battle between eastern and western mindsets. One is not more effective than another but one (I think you can guess which) is essentially imperialstic in its mission. The fact that this information has managed to not be included in the investigations of September 11, even by conspiracy buffs is a testament to the power of mass media to shape our views. He who controls the flow of information controls the type and amount of avenues of examination. On the day I was to release this piece, my yahoogroup "psy-op" came under heavy attack necessitating that I attend to some banning and investigation, neatly taking up much of my time. The PC world is buying time to stage some sort of defenses. My advice is to buy Apple. more at http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=189214 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! 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