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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/tupolev/tupolev.htm Was Russian Tupolev Airliner Shot Down Over Germany? Despite diligent analysis of the available video footage, no trace can be found of any debris from the DHL Boeing 757 alleged to have "collided" with the Russian Tupolev 154M near Ueberlingen Copyright Joe Vialls, 3 July 2002 Finding coherent details about the fatal crash of Bashkirian Airlines Flight BTS2937 near Ueberlingen in southern Germany at 0050 hrs on 1 July, has been very difficult. Worse still, finding any evidence of the DHL Boeing 757 alleged to have collided with the Tupolev 154 in mid air, has so far been impossible. Every one of the thousands of video frames viewed to date from the crash sites in southern Germany show only bits and pieces of Tupolev 154. Pictures of its tail assembly, engines, fuselage, and the highly distinctive 6-wheel undercarriage are there in abundance, but not a single solitary scrap of Boeing 757 can be seen anywhere. If two aircraft of the same type had collided in mid air, say two Tupolev 154s for example, then discriminating between the different aircraft wrecks would be almost impossible. But as the color photos further down this page show only too well, the Tupolev 154 and Boeing 757 are completely different in design. The engines, wings and undercarriage are different, as are the tail assemblies and even the cabin windows. To decide for ourselves whether the Bashkirian TU-154 really did collide in mid air as claimed, or was the victim of foul play, we will have to examine the available evidence far more carefully. First, who initially stated that the TU-154 collided with a Boeing 757? One of the first was DHL Europe, who issued the following statement: “Brussels (1 July 2002) - At approximately 0050LT today, a Boeing 757 registration number A9CDHL operated by DHL International EC, en route from Bahrain to Brussels was involved in an accident over the city of Ueberlingen on Lake Constance (Southern Germany). “A collision occurring between the DHL cargo plane and a Russian Tupolev passenger aircraft, operated by Bashkirian airlines, registered RA85816, has resulted in many casualties. The DHL aircraft was crewed by two pilots, a British national and a Canadian national, both based in Bahrain. There were no other people on board the DHL craft. During this difficult time our thoughts are with the families and friends of those who have either lost their lives or been seriously injured in such tragic circumstances. “It is too early to comment on the possible cause of the accident. At this time there is no indication of any technical or potential problems with the DHL craft. An investigation is underway and DHL is working with the Air Investigation Branch of the Civil Aviation Authority. DHL will release further information as it becomes available.” Fine so far. DHL in Europe knew its Boeing 757 had departed Bahrain on schedule, and clearly at that stage believed it had collided with the Bashkirian Tupolev 154. But did DHL Europe know the nature of the Boeing’s cargo, which has been variously and rather delicately described by middle east sources as “secure”, “classified”, “secret” and “extremely hazardous”? So the first question we have to ask is whether or not the hazardous cargo on board the DHL plane might have accidentally or intentionally led to its destruction shortly after departure from Bahrain. Could the 757 have exploded in mid air over the Persian Gulf, or perhaps been shot down by one of the several hundred fully-armed combat jets known to be in the area? We do not yet have any evidence to support this thesis, but the possibility must nonetheless be kept on the table. For if the Boeing 757 did indeed crash under conditions of strict secrecy in the Gulf area, it would then have to be “crashed again” for public consumption later. And what better way of disguising the true location of the crash, than to claim the debris was “muddled up” with the wreckage of Bashkirian Airlines Flight BTS2937 near Ueberlingen. Though entirely speculative at this stage, the "missing" Boeing 757, or rather its IFF transponder codes, would have been of immense value if there was deliberate intent to shoot down the Russian Tupolev. If an attack aircraft were to "assume the identity" of the Boeing by flying along the exact same track and using the exact same transponder codes, the single [sleepy] Swiss air traffic controller on duty would have been none the wiser. The Swiss controller would be expecting a scheduled flight on a particular flight plan, squawking a specific transponder code, and that would be the extent of his concern. Providing that someone flew the correct track and used the right codes there would be no cause for alarm or suspicion. It was twenty minutes past midnight local time, and air traffic controllers do not try to visually identify aircraft flying at 33,000 feet with a pair of binoculars. Time enough for an attack aircraft to launch a missile, switch off its transponder and then duck swiftly out of ground radar view. Now, if the DHL Boeing 757 really crashed near Ueberlingen the black box recorders would already have been found, and my work would be proved at best ill-informed and at worst a lie. Late yesterday Fox News claimed that all black boxes including those from the Boeing had been recovered and were now being examined by investigators. This is simply not true. Fifteen minutes ago on live real-time German satellite TV, local officials stated they had found the black box (1) from the Tupolev 154, but not from the Boeing 757. On the television, a line of boats could be seen slowly moving along Lake Constance looking for “bits of debris”. If by some impossible chance [explained later] the Boeing black boxes had fallen into Lake Constance, they would have been located in hours by their radio signals and recovered. Lake Constance is up to 300 feet deep in places, but that is child’s play compared to ocean recoveries from 2,000 feet and even deeper. So as things stand right now, 52 hours after the crash of Bashkirian Airlines Flight BTS2937, there is not a trace of wreckage from the DHL Boeing 757, nor any trace of its (2) black boxes. If a fishing boat suddenly recovers a Boeing black box tomorrow or the next day it’s OK to be cynical. By then someone will almost certainly have dropped a spare black box in the lake to be “discovered” by the locals. Now it is time to look closely at Bashkirian Airlines Flight BTS2937, a much-maligned Tupolev 154M, which the western media is currently slagging off as a very dangerous “old” airliner prone to multiple accidents. Really? This particular 154M was less than seven years old, had very low airframe hours, and was fitted with all the modern goodies including state-of-the-art collision avoidance radar. The reason for this VIP transport is simple. Bashkirian Airlines Flight BTS2937 was carrying extremely valuable passengers, in fact it was carrying the sons and daughters of Russia’s political oil elite. Yes, I did say “political oil elite”, i.e. the very same folk who have repeatedly and stubbornly rebuffed blatant American multinational attempts to hijack Russia’s oil reserves via pipelines slated for construction through Turkey, The Lebanon, and Pakistan. Make of this information what you will. To fully understand the enormity of the lies surrounding the crash, it is necessary to comprehend the dynamics of the two aircraft, and the resulting inertia and velocity at and after the point of mid air explosion or collision. Each aircraft weighed about 100 tons and was travelling at about 500 miles per hour. Believe me, if an aircraft of this weight explodes at 33,000 feet with a forward velocity of 500 miles per hour, it cannot and does not drop vertically to the ground. As in the case of Pan Am 103, the uncontrolled exploded mass of aircraft debris continues forwards as it is falling, and I have prepared two maps below to illustrate this effect. The map on the left shows you what the media says happened, while the map on the right shows you what must really have happened. There is a huge difference between the two. Bashkirian Airlines Flight BTS2937 was flying roughly north-east to south-west, and in order to actually fall to the ground in the immediate vicinity of Ueberlingen, must have exploded several miles back along its original track. For the sake of simplicity I have marked the point of “mid-air explosion” exactly the same distance back from the crash site as that found in the case of Pan Am 103, which exploded overhead the Solway Firth, before finally hitting the ground many miles further north in Lockerbie Village. Now see what this reality does to the ridiculous media claims of the DHL Boeing 757 “colliding with the Russian jet over Lake Constance”. Impossible! If there was a collision at all, then it took place several miles north-by-north-east of Ueberlingen, with the 100 ton Boeing 757 travelling roughly southeast to northwest at five hundred miles per hour. The resulting massive inertia would have ensured that most of the Boeing 757 debris came to earth roughly where I have shown it on the map, way to the north of Ueberlingen and nowhere near Lake Constance at all. This is the scientific reality of the situation, though skeptics might claim that the two jets hit exactly in the middle, thus completely canceling out the inertia of the other. Alas, this would only be partially possible if the two jets suffered a direct head-on collision, literally nose to nose, resulting in the fuselage sections of each aircraft being telescoped and compressed, with both falling to earth in a deadly eternal embrace as a single compact fused mass. That this cannot be the case, is proved by the crash pictures of the Tupolev at the top of this page. Not one piece of Tupolev 154M wreckage shows any sign at all of being impacted by another aircraft. There are no obvious cuts that could have been caused by the impact of another wing or tail plane leading edge, and there are no oblique indentations indicating a glancing blow. What little paint remains on the wreckage of Flight BTS2937, is completely unmarked. Furthermore, outward deformation of the fuselage strongly suggests an internal explosion in the cabin, or fuel tankage areas. So who really did what to who, and exactly why? At this stage it is impossible to say for sure, and the answer might take months to uncover, if it is uncovered at all. My sole reason for writing this report was to bring the grossly inaccurate media reportage to your attention. What you choose to do with this information, from this point onwards, is entirely your own affair. UPDATE 4 JULY 2002 Surprise surprise! Someone has "found" a piece of DHL wreckage, or what is claimed to be a part of DHL wreckage, in a German forest near "Owingen". Perhaps it really is wreckage and perhaps it is not.. Notice in the picture below this text, that the small piece of "DHL wreckage" is clear in the foreground, with fuzzy firemen in the distant background. It may be real, but I could have made a pic like this in ten minutes using Paint Shop Pro. It is most interesting to note perhaps, that three days after the crash, reporters are still only allowed to visit the crash sites with close police escorts. Sound a bit like a "guided tour" to a cynic like me... In my main article above, I omitted to mention [due to a lack of time and space] the other option for "substitution" if the Russian Tupolev was considered a valid target:- The old radar-evading "pilot fish" trick could have been used, where the attack plane flies just below and slightly behind the airliner, hiding in its larger radar shadow. This simple trick was practiced hundreds of times during the Cold War, as a means of delivering a small tactical nuclear weapon during a first-strike "sneak attack". The recently-admitted absence of the Swiss proximity radar [and only a single controller on duty at the time], is instructive in terms of this second alternate scenario. If an attack plane had been sitting in the 757's radar shadow for perhaps 50 or more miles, the two-man British/Canadian Boeing crew would have turned their own proximity radar off, because the warning noise would have been driving them nuts, and because they would have believed the equipment was defective. This would then have left the Russian Tupolev [and the attack plane] with the only working proximity radars in the entire region at twenty minutes past midnight on 1 July. Under these circumstances the attack plane would first ease back on the throttles, then probably pop a heatseeker into the Boeing 757, before launching a radar-guided missile at the Tupolev. Perhaps both at the same time. Remember that all modern attack planes can and do engage up to six different moving targets simultaneously. One second after multiple launch, the attack plane would duck behind the falling airliner debris to shield itself from ground radar view. And there you have it, though embarrassingly it would be impossible to simulate a true "mid air", and the wrecks would fall to earth many miles apart. There is no forest near Ueberlingen, so if the Boeing 757 fragment shown below is genuine, exactly where is it located? Try to focus on the Tupolev wreckage, which we know for certain is real. I repeat, there is absolutely no sign of cutting damage from a wing or tailplane leading edge, and no damage or paint scuffing from an oblique collision. Furthermore, outward deformation of the fuselage strongly suggests an internal explosion in the cabin, or fuel tankage areas. Believe me, this matter is far from over <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! 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