-Caveat Lector- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ulrich stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is an incestuous relationship that exists between the intelligence community and US corporations that develop the technology that fuels their spy systems. Many of the companies that receive the most important commercial intercepts are Lockheed, Boeing, Loral, TRW, and Raytheon who are actively involved in the development of Echelon. The collusion between the intelligence agencies and their contractors is frightening...it is a gross misuse of taxpayer resources and the intelligence agencies." As the recent Chinese security scandal indicates, companies such as Loral seem to have no qualms about "sharing" sensitive information which have dual uses-one military and one economic technology intelligence, with sworn enemies of the United States.
http://webnetarts.com/socialjustice/nsa.html ||||||||||||||||||||||||| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 2:48 pm Subject: Re: [psy-op] Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, and Echelon One of the emails you sent today mentions a tie between Rudi Dekker's flight school and a proposed aviation maintenance facility named Britannia to be placed in Lynchburg Virginia. Do you know if there is an old coldwar AT&T switching station in Lynchburg? It could be an old coldwar radar site. But it would be vintage coldwar AT&T equipment. That old equipment was decommissioned and sold to Iraq and Iran and Libya for use at their airports. China's interior uses it. That old equipment is the equipment that the mysterious PROMIS software Cassolaro was tracking down was adapted to use in weapon systems in Israel, Iraq and Libya as well as China interior. This was the equipment that Gerald Bull used to create the super gun for satellite launch. It is also the equipment that Hughes and Loral were trying to adapt to the US rocket program. Atta could read architectural drawings and there are reports that he was in Germany in regard to some architectural drawings of Saddam Airport. If that is true then I am not sure how they got to Germany. It is my understanding that the architect who designed Saddam Airport had his offices in the Alfred Murray Building. Rumors in the Iraqi opposition community say that Tim McVeigh had been sent into OKC with a shipment of guns. He was to park the rented truck full of guns at a predetermined spot, at a predetermined time and leave the keys under the visor. He was to meet with some Iraqi opposition people and pick up a mailing tube full of drawings (taken from an earlier raid on the architects offices in the Alfred Murrah Building). He was to continue to a post office and mail the tube to his PO Box in Kingman Arizona (I think I remembered that correctly). He was then to make 3 cell phone calls to advise the buyer of the guns that the tube had been picked up and sent. Those 2 cell phone calls were what triggered the explosions in the Alfred Murrah Building. According to Iraqi Opposition McVeigh did not trust his contact and did not send the docs to his PO Box but instead hid them. There were only 2 other copies of the documents in existence-the originals in Baghdad and a copy in a vault in a bank possibly in NY. The UNSCOM people were looking for the prints and were unable to get them. The prints seem to have disappeared from the vault prior to 911 This brings us to Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi diplomat named Al Ani who was expelled from Czechoslovakia. I don't remember the dates off hand BUT Atta was reported to be "gay." Whether Atta was gay or not is immaterial but the CIA does use gay bars as drops in the Arab community. Since homosexuality is a capital offense in many Arab nations the drop is arranged at the gay bar in order to be able to blackmail the contact later to make sure there is compliance at all times. But Iraq is a secular state. Though Hussein did allow religious executions on the basis of Homosexuality during the height of the sanctions, he has moved Iraq away from the religious extremists and back to secularization. Al Ani was believed to have taken pictures of US/CIA contacts in the Arab community with Atta in Czechoslovakia and was informing his office of who was contacting the US CIA when he was tailed by Czech police and expelled from the country for 'behavior unbecoming a diplomat.' Whether Ani was gay or not did not matter to Iraq because they are a secular state. That he was brave enough to enter a gay bar and take pictures that could out US and Arab agents probably gained him a medal. If you ever wonder why both the US and Czechoslovakia are tap dancing on this thing with Atta meeting with Iraqis in Prague, this is the might be the reason. So if the story I got from Iraqi Opposition sources is true, could Atta have been seeking a blueprints of Iraqi Airports to try to figure out how information gleaned from Huawei, the Chinese Company that had just installed fiber-optic cable in the Iraqi power plant, could be merged with information taken from the blueprints of Saddam International? After the OKC bombing, I was able to pick up a rumor that someone (not Iraqi) fled into Italy by plane and then drove over the border into Switzerland. From there I was not able to pick up anymore information. Provided that person existed could that person have been carrying the blueprints? Is this what Atta was looking for information on in a gay bar in Prague? If so how accurate were the prints? Add to this that President Chavez of Venezuela flew into Saddam Airport in Iraq. He was the first head of state to land at Saddam International since the Gulf War. Venezuela is in the US drug war and knowledge of how to circumvent radar ala Iraq might be the reason that US wanted Chavez out badly enough to stage an embarrassing coup. If there is coldwar equipment in Lynchburg, this might explain the reason for all the secrecy. http://www.iraq.net/erica/news-e/archives/00000029.htm (2001/12/17): "Czech PM affirms Atta meeting with al-Ani" Today's NYT carries an article dismissing the significance of and/or calling into doubt Mohammed Atta's three known trips to Prague (the first two in his first known attempt to enter the country in June 2000, just before his first trip to the US) and the third in April 2001. The NYT, citing "an intelligence official in Washington," suggests that Atta's meeting with the Iraqi intelligence official known as Ahmed al-Ani (identified by the NYT as an alias for Mohammad Khalil Ibrahim al-Ani) was insignificant, because al-Ani was a low-level official, or so the NYT asserts. Yet as one reader of "Iraq News" who writes about intelligence affairs remarked, "It is an absurd diversion to talk about the low-levelness of al-Ani. He was Iraq counsel, 2nd secretary of embassy, and the intelligence officer chosen [by the Czechs] for expulsion. In any case, he represented not himself (intelligence officers do not arrange free-lance trysts), but the government of Iraq."The NYT goes even further, citing a "major Czech paper"--Mlada Fronta Dnes--which reported that Atta may never even have been to Prague. Rather, the individual who traveled to Prague last April may have been a Pakistani with the same name, according to that report. Yet another reader, familiar with the Czech press, chanced to remark yesterday to "Iraq News" that that story in that paper was "totally unserious tabloid nonsense." Indeed, the Czech prime minister, Stanislav Gross, has already dismissed that story. Yesterday, CTK, the Czech Republic's principal press agency, quoting the Czech paper, "Pravo," reported as much. According to CTK, Gross, speaking about Atta and al-Ani stated, "There is no reason to change anything in the original stand." CTK further explained, "Some time ago Gross said that Atta, an Egyptian, had visited Prague twice last year. On another occasion, this spring, Atta met Ibrahim al-Ani, a former Iraqi consul and spy, who was expelled from the Czech Republic on 22 April." I. CZECH PM AFFIRMS ATTA MEETING WITH AL-ANI Minister insists suicide bomber did meet Iraqi consul in Czech capital - daily Prague CTK in English 1257 GMT 15 Dec 01 [FBIS Transcribed Excerpt]Minister insists suicide bomber did meet Iraqi consul in Czech capital - daily Excerpt from report in English by Czech news agency CTK Prague, 15 December: Muhammad Atta, one of the hijack suicide terrorists of 11 September, did meet an Iraqi diplomat in Prague this year, Interior Minister Stanislav Gross has told the daily Pravo in reaction to the media's recent information that Atta's meeting with the Iraqi consul had not been confirmed."According to my information, and mainly according to the information of the Czech counterintelligence service BIS [Security Intelligence Service], the source of our original stand, there is no reason to change anything in the original stand," today's issue of Pravo quotes Gross as saying.Some time ago Gross said that Atta, an Egyptian, had visited Prague twice last year. On another occasion, this spring, Atta met Ibrahim al-Ani, a former Iraqi consul and spy, who was expelled from the Czech Republic on 22 April, Gross said.According to some dailies, there is no evidence proving the last mentioned meeting. A BIS agent probably mistook Atta for an Iraqi businessman who resembled him, the papers wrote...[Description of Source: Prague CTK in English -- principal press agency][ED: Excerpts from original FBIS transcription] Question: What warning, if any, did the CIA receive from the National Reconnaissance Office concerning Arabs training on the fuselage of a passenger airliner at a terrorist training camp prior to September 11th, 2001? Answer: After Sabah Khalifa Khodada Alami, an Iraqi military officer, defected from Iraq in 1999 to Turkey. He now lives in Fort Worth, Texas. When he was debriefed, he described his training mission at Salman Pak, a military base about 21 miles from Baghdad that had been used for the testing of secret weapons, including chemical biological warfare agents, and paramilitary training for covert actions. Captain Sabah Khalifa Khodada Alami said that as late as 1998 he trained an elite commando team, Fedayeen Saddam, in airline hijacking and sabotage. Through a translator, Mr. Alami described, according to the Wall street Journal, a daily regimen of exercises on kidnapping, assassination, and -- using a Boeing 707 parked inside the complex -- how to hijack a plane or bus without weapons. He said that a separate group of non-Iraqis were being similarly trained by Saddam's intelligence service, the mukhabarat. Asked about the plane by an interviewer for Front Line, he said "Yes, there's a real whole 707 plane, a whole real plane, standing in the middle of the training area in this camp." Subsequently, a second Iraqi defector, a former intelligence officer who defected in early 2001 , described "Islamicists" training on a Boeing 707 parked in Salman Pak from about 1995 to as recently as September 2000. Neither defector said any efforts were made to hide or conceal the Boeing from satellite photography. And, according to Front Line, a former U.N. inspector who worked for the United Nations said that he saw the fuselage of an airliner at Salman Pak which was smaller than a Boeing. Whatever manufacture and size , there is agreement such a plane was in the Salman Pak complex. During this period, the base at Salman Pak was under surveillance of US KH-11 reconnaissance satellites which were providing intelligence on Iraq's possible weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological warfare equipment, to the CIA. The information about Salman Pak was also used publically by UNSCOM, the UN agency charged with monitoring Iraq's disposal of such weapons. Since Salman Pak was systematically photographed, if the defectors' accounts are accurate, the Boeing 707 would also have been routinely photographed between 1995 and 2000 many times. Given that Salman Pak was not an air base, a Boeing 707 on the ground there would have stood out like a sore thumb. It is also possible that the Arabs training on it were recognizable (unless training was only at night or they wore masks). After September 11th, a private US satellite photo company, Space Imaging, went through its archives and found a photo that included a plane parked in the Salman Pak compound. The National Reconnaissance Office collates, analyzes and distributes the intelligence gleaned from satellite imagery in Iraq. If it had pictures of an airliner, Boeing or whatever kind, permanently stationed inside the Salmon Pak complex, it is reasonable to assume that they would not have withheld them from the CIA. 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