-Caveat Lector-

8/8/02 9:55:40 AM, thew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>-Caveat Lector-
>
>Dude -
>Anti Israeli propaganda that is NOT based on any plan ever made by ANY
>Israeli, ever, is not source material - it is made up fantasy boogieman
>shit.
>
>I asked about Israeli motivations, you posited a reason based on Arab fears,
>not Israeli Desires. Even the article calls the idea of Greater Israel a
>fairy tale. That IS made up shit.
>
>>> Now your just making shit up. Has anyone ever claimed that?

Please recall your orignal question as I have faithfully recorded it for you.  You 
accused me
of "just making shit up", followed by the question "Has anyone ever claimed that?'

Interesting how there is a tendency on some peoples' part to obfuscation by inserting 
their
own distortions when confronted with the facts that I did NOT make anything up and
someone DID claim that there was a plan in someone's mind that they thought up (based
on some coin at least) and are therefore basing their claims on.

Have you forgotten which list you're on?  This is about "boogiemen" (and not the ones 
at
the local music hall).  Again, I do not take repsonsibility for anyone's thoughts, 
theories or
thickheadednesses.  Unless, of course, I acknowledge I am the originator of same.
However, if I ignore unpopular ideas (many if not most of which kind appear on this 
list), I
may as well go back to playing my flute.

How many years ago did Hatfield try to publish a mostly sympathetic biography of the
Shrub, in which he describes the Harken abortion?  How many years ago did the Shrubs
discredit him and enforce mass media censorship on St Martin's press to cease and 
desist
publication?  How many weeks will go by now WITHOUT a story about Shrub's sketchy
business dealings?  An unpopular subject for a long time, Harken has been and will be.

So far, Shrub has failed to adequately defend himself, demonstrating an inability to 
provide
controverting evidence.  So far, YOU have failed to provide anything in the way of
substantive evidence that the Arabs are wrong.  All we get is:

>Anti Israeli propaganda that is NOT based on any plan ever made by ANY
>Israeli, ever, is not source material - it is made up fantasy boogieman
>shit.

Where was this channeled from?  I don't know one way or another but I'm able to watch,
wait and listen just like I did with Shrub.  Emotionality expressed by ad hominems 
like the
title "Dude" just don't get it.  Unless there is uncontrovertible evidence to cancel 
out an
opposing opinion, we can only leave that opinion on the shelf until there is something 
other
than one's personal opinion -- hope -- desire -- inaccurate recollection -- and so 
forth to
make sense of the whole subject.  But we'll have the information available to refer to.

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