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goldi316 wrote:

> http://www.vectorsite.net/twgas3.html
>

The following info from the author is taken from another page of the
above article, which I found to be totally silent on the US history of
Biological and Chemical Warfare.  One would get the impression from
reading this rather incomplete history that the US has NEVER been
involved with this pernicious form of weapons development.  It is
especially telling in the section on Iraq that the author does not
mention (did he not know?) that the US SUPPLIED Iraq with the materials
and equipment to build their program.  When reading this information,
please keep in mind that it is biased.

http://www.vectorsite.net/twgas4.html#m3

[4.3] COMMENTS, SOURCES, & REVISION HISTORY

* My sole involvement with chemical weapons was the gas training I was
provided during my US Army Basic Combat Training
session at Ford Ord, California, in the fall of 1972. All trainees were
required to go into a room full of CS aerosol powder and
inhale it to give them an appreciation of what gas can do, a training
technique that goes back to gas training in WWI.

I compare being tear-gassed to having my head shoved into a bucket full
of hot pepper sauce and chili powder and being forced
to inhale and swallow. It was very effective training, as I haven't
forgotten it in thirty years.

We were also given familiarization with the use of gas masks, though the
only full-body protection we had available was to put
on a rain poncho, and were given a short training session with atropine
auto-injectors and, I vaguely recall, decontamination
powders.

I read a book on CB warfare while I was in the Army and was amused at
the experiments with hallucinogenic gases.
Recreational drug use was widespread and blatant in the US Army in the
early 1970s, though there was a crackdown later in
the decade. I joked with a pal that if our guys were attacked with
hallucinogenic gases, they'd tear off their gas masks and
inhale as much as they could, and the enemy wouldn't be able to tell the
difference.

* Concerning the use of CS powder in Vietnam: I once met a fellow who
said they used it to render VC bunkers uninhabitable.
If US soldiers simply blew up the bunkers, the hole and position were
still basically intact and could easily be restored to
effectiveness. According to my acquaintance, however, the VC hated CS,
and instead of demolishing the bunkers he and his
team built charges with a combination of explosive and CS that
thoroughly dispersed the powder through the bunker.

The VC wouldn't use the bunker again. I speculate that they had been
trained to believe that the powder was lethal, or that the
Americans were likely to sooner or later sneak in other gases that were
lethal.

* Experiences with natural biotoxins gives me a great respect for what
they could do if used as a weapon. In the early 1980s, I
had a session for a few months where everything seemed to go wrong at
once, with troubles including food poisoning and
contact with poison oak.

The food poisoning involved an all-night session in agony that I
visualized at the time was being under torture. After a few hours
of it, I would have given away any secret to make it stop. In the
morning, I was purged, drained, white, and feeble. I suspect I
would have been killed if I had been old or in bad health.

Poison oak exposure itself resulted in no more than a severe red,
itching, swollen rash that took about a week to subside, though
I had a friend who took a dose of it and had an allergic reaction, with
his face hideously puffed up. However, after the worst of
my exposure was over I kept having minor relapses on my forearms and
facial areas. Some of the oily toxins had rubbed off on
doorknobs and the like, and I had to give my apartment a thorough
cleaning to put a stop to the relapses.

When I finally found out what mustard gas was and what it could do while
writing this document, I recollected I'd been through
an experience that gave me a mild taste of what it was like.

* This document evolved out of some notes taken from a six-part
historical television documentary titled SCIENCE AT WAR,
broadcast on the US History Channel in 1999, which included individual
installments on chemical and biological warfare. The
installment on chemical warfare focused strongly on the tragedy of Fritz
and Clara Haber, which is such a neatly Shakespearian
melodrama that I found it a bit hard to believe. However, the facts do
bear it out.

More formal sources for this document include:

     A HIGHER FORM OF KILLING by Robert Harris and Jeremy Paxman, Hill &
Wang, 1982. This is one of the
     best-known books on bio-chemical warfare, and this document owes a
great deal to it. It is a detailed and thorough book,
     though the authors do not have deep technical backgrounds and seem
to tend towards overstatement.

     BIOHAZARD by Ken Alibek with Stephen Handelman, Random House, 1999.
This is a largely biographical book that
     has some interesting bits of information. For example, Alibek says
that the extensive immunizations and repeated
     decontaminations he endured while working for Biopreparat gave him
the widest range of allergies of anyone he'd ever
     met, and destroyed his sense of smell and the ability to produce
skin oils. He lives on a troublesome regimen of
     medications and skin lotions.

     "The Whore Of Babylon And The Horseman Of Plague", THE ECONOMIST,
12 April 1997, 79:82.

     "Terrorism's Next Wave" by David E. Kaplan, US NEWS & WORLD REPORT,
17 November 1997, 28:31.

     "Bombs, Gas, And Microbes: The Desperate Efforts To Block The Road
To Doomsday", THE ECONOMIST, 6 June
     1998, 23:25.

     "Biological Warfare Against Crops" by Paul Rogers, Simon Whitby,
and Malcolm Dando, SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN,
     June 1999, 70:75.

     "Germ Warfare Takes On Strategic Dimensions" by Paul Mann, AVIATION
WEEK, 4 September 2000, 91:92.

     "Down To The Wire On Bioweapons Talks" by Richard Stone, AAAS
SCIENCE, 20 July 2001, 414:416.

The MitreTech website has a wide range of well-organized and rather
technical materials on biological and chemical warfare.
The section on chemical agents on the MitreTech site provides a number
of strong warnings that trying to synthesize a CB
agent is extremely dangerous. I have not included such warnings in this
document, as there is almost no prospect that anyone
could use this survey to actually produce a CB agent.

I have doubts such warnings make sense. To be sure, an organization has
to provide such fine print to avoid bad press, but the
idea that somebody who tried to make CB in his basement would not know
it was dangerous, and having taken that step, would
be inclined to heed warnings, seems very hard to believe.

* In early versions of this document, I used the term "biochemical
weapons" as a lump term for "chemical and biological
weapons", but I got some complaints about it since it was technically
misleading, and eliminated that usage in the v1.0.3 revision
in favor of the "CB" acronym. It was just too tiresome an issue to want
to make much of an issue of.

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