On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 05:14:19PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:20:34PM +0000 I heard the voice of
> Yumekui Neru, and lo! it spake thus:
> > 
> > No luck with escapes. 
> > For what it is worth, commenting it out from NoBorder draws a border.
> 
> Well, you got me.  Next would be to drop a debug spike in to see
> whether it's triggering.  e.g., something like
> 
> (snip) 
> 
> to see what's actually going on when it gets there.  Get ready for a
> lot of output   :)
> 
> 
> > Maybe it starts iconified, but forcibly deiconifies itself if that
> > is even possible. A related (wine) application has a tendency to
> > raise itself as well.
> 
> Certainly possible; a program can trigger a Map for itself any time it
> wants; we can't stop it from doing that.

It does seem to be the application itself doing it, as the output is
StartIconified: rather than Not:.

Any reason it does not happen in 3.8.2 for me ?

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