I wrote

> Anyhow I'll be grateful for a suggestion for something to go into .ctwmrc
> or to be run in an xterm window after ctwm starts up, or to be put in a
> ctwm menu item ....

I now suspect that the problem can't be fixed by changing contents of my files,
or the order of entries in .ctwmrc, etc.

I think the pipewire system files, which I did not install but came with fedora
update(s) are wrong somehow and perhaps also the alsa files on my PC.

I'll have to try to find out which pipewire and alsa files need to be installed
where, and which system files or directories (e.g. in /etc ?) need to have the
right contents to support alsa.

I guess I'm going to have to laboriously find all files and directories related
to pipewire and also and check their contents, in addition to finding out what
has to go into /etc and in my own files.

Or perhaps there is a way to remove all references to pipewire and go back to
alsa plus pulseaudio, which worked for many years.

When i wrote:

> If I launch iplayer and try to run something with sound and video the video
> plays, and the time slider moves, but there's no sound even with the volume
> slider set to full.

I should have been more explicit and called it bbc-iplayer:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/

Unfortunately I don't think it's available to people outside the UK.

The bbc world service (audio only) is available outside the uk,

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_world_service

but all I get from that when I try to play something is:

    "This content doesn't seem to be working"

Anyhow I'll see if I can find a useful set of instructions for setting up alsa
without pipeworks, or alsa and pulseaudio, which I previously used successfully
and can still use on an old laptop running fedora 31 and older PC running Fedora
29, both of which still have working audio.

But I can't go back to those versions of fedora on my 2 year old main PC because
I need to be able to run zoom!

Regretfully I may have to give my next zoom talk, on 21st January using 
windows10!

I presume I'm the only member of this list so far to have been clobbered by
system ugrades that brought in pipeworks? Or perhaps Fedora is the only version
of linux that has screwed up introduction of pipeworks.

Aaron
http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs

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