> On Jul 6, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Mike Pumford <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 06/07/2020 16:07, Martin Husemann wrote:
>> Stupid question: are there now actually x86 boards that do *not* have a real
>> serial on-board? I have not seen any so far (none of the new ones come with
>> an external connector of course, but they can be added easily unless it is
>> a notebook).
> A quick look around suggests that some of the very high end gaming ones 
> don't. Also assuming users will actually be able to find a cable to actually 
> hook up the motherboard COM port is optimistic. You would probably have to 
> get one second hand these days and if I remember correctly there are 2 
> incompatible pinouts for the 10 pin header. :(

Just in case anyone cares (I was looking to order one recently), there are 
definitely two pinouts.  One is the so-called AT/Everex pinout, the other is 
the so-called DTK/Intel pinout.  They are described here among other places:

https://pinoutguide.com/Motherboard/rs232_header_pinout.shtml

Cheers,
Brook

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