On 09/29/2014 03:13 PM, Michael Hamburg wrote:

> What do you think of a KDF that amounts to H(minmax((Alice’s identity,Alice’s 
> message),(Bob’s identity,Bob’s message), shared secret)

For clarification, the above is missing a close-paren, and "minmax()" i
probably more simply described as sort()

so i think Mike is asking about:

 H(sort((Alice's identity, Alice's message),
        (Bob's identity, Bob's message)),
   shared secret)

> It seems safer than the method you proposed, because it associates Alice’s 
> identity to her message, but the wormhole attack you proposed worked because 
> it confuses who sent which message.

        --dkg

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