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Log: Planet run at Wed Mar 12 00:00:01 GMT 2008 File Changes: Directory: /marketing/www/planet/ ================================= File [changed]: atom.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/atom.xml?r1=1.192&r2=1.193 Delta lines: +24 -64 --------------------- --- atom.xml 2008-03-11 18:00:26+0000 1.192 +++ atom.xml 2008-03-12 00:00:32+0000 1.193 @@ -5,9 +5,30 @@ <link rel="self" href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/atom.xml"/> <link href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/"/> <id>http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/atom.xml</id> - <updated>2008-03-11T18:00:18+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-03-12T00:00:24+00:00</updated> <generator uri="http://www.planetplanet.org/";>Planet/2.0 +http://www.planetplanet.org</generator> + <entry xml:lang="en"> + <title type="html">OpenOffice.org to Adopt LGPLv3 License</title> + <link href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/757"/> + <id>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/757</id> + <updated>2008-03-11T19:26:04+00:00</updated> + <content type="html"><p>The news first arrived last week that <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/openoffice_org_goes_to_lgplv3">OpenOffice.org will adopt LGPLv3 as of OOo 3.0 beta</a>.</p> +<p>This change and some other improvements are described in Simon Phipp&#8217;s post linked above.</p> +<p>He explains: &#8220;OpenOffice.org&#8217;s license will change to LGPLv3 as part of a broader set of changes intended to improve the OpenOffice.org community for everyone. Those changes also include a switch to the latest version of the standard Sun contributor agreement, with an addendum specifically tailored to the needs of the OpenOffice.org community. There&#8217;s increased latitude for documentation writers to publish their work on OpenOffice.org. And in future, plugins for OpenOffice.org may host their source code directly on the community site without copyright being shared, helping collaboration within the community.&#8221;</p></content> + <author> + <name>Benjamin Horst</name> + <uri>http://www.solidoffice.com</uri> + </author> + <source> + <title type="html">SolidOffice » OpenOffice.org</title> + <subtitle type="html">Home of The Tiny Guide to OpenOffice.org</subtitle> + <link rel="self" href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed"/> + <id>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed</id> + <updated>2008-03-12T00:00:07+00:00</updated> + </source> + </entry> + <entry> <title type="html">OpenOffice.org at OpenExpo in Bern, Switzerland</title> <link href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/03/openofficeorg-at-openexpo-in-bern.html"/> @@ -138,7 +159,7 @@ <subtitle type="html">Home of The Tiny Guide to OpenOffice.org</subtitle> <link rel="self" href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed"/> <id>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed</id> - <updated>2008-03-10T12:00:07+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-03-12T00:00:07+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> @@ -385,7 +406,7 @@ <title type="html">Lodahl's blog</title> <link rel="self" href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default/-/OpenOffice.org"/> <id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5198340507565233169</id> - <updated>2008-03-05T18:00:15+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-03-12T00:00:23+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> @@ -508,65 +529,4 @@ </source> </entry> - <entry xml:lang="en"> - <title type="html">Iâm confused, and Iâm not alone</title> - <link href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/244962432/"/> - <id>http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=448</id> - <updated>2008-03-03T17:04:49+00:00</updated> - <content type="html"><p><a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/author/maslett/">Matthew Aslett</a> of <a href="http://www.the451group.com/">The 451 Group</a> comments about the <a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/03/03/a-slight-difference-of-opinion/">Geneva BRM</a>. He is probably confused as much as I am, but he reports a number of opinions (including those that I&#8217;ve mentioned in my <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=447">previous post</a>).</p> -<p>I point out Matthew&#8217;s last two paragraphs:</p> -<blockquote><p>Admittedly I am quoting selectively, but you have to wonder whether a &#8220;standard&#8221; that has been through a process that divides opinion so much is worthy of the title, whatever the result. The most damning indictment, in my personal view, comes from Yoon Kit of the Malaysian delegation: -<p><em>We eventually found out that if any changes affected current implementations it would certainly be rejected. This seriously compromised any elegant solutions, and it forced us to be mindful of the &#8220;existing corpus of documents&#8221; in the wild. I donât believe that that should be our problem, but there was a large and vocal voting bloc which would oppose any changes to the spec which would &#8220;break&#8221; Ecma 376. [&#8230;]</em></p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>From my informal talks with Sam Ramji of Microsoft I&#8217;ve understood that the company has already started working at the code of Office 2007, in order to make the product more interoperable. This is confirmed by the following statement, which is included in the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-21ExpandInteroperabilityPR.mspx">press release</a> distributed on February 21 to support the conference call with Steve Ballmer, Ray Ozzie, Bob Muglia and Brad Smith (you know, they use Excel to sort the list alphabetically ;-), and the software includes a non standard &#8220;hierarchy filter&#8221;):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p><strong>Enhancing Office 2007 to provide greater flexibility of document formats</strong>. To promote user choice among document formats, Microsoft will design new APIs for the Word, Excel and PowerPoint applications in Office 2007 to enable developers to plug in additional document formats and to enable users to set these formats as their default for saving documents.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>As a logical consequence, once ECMA has started the standardization process for Microsoft OOXML it should have been clear that the process itself could have asked for substancial amendments to the document format, and that refusing or opposing such changes would have been simply not coherent with the process. -<p>Therefore, I&#8217;m quite surprised for Yoon Kit statement, because - if completely true (the only problem I see is the language one, as writing in English when it&#8217;s not your mother tongue is a daily challenge) - it goes not only against the principles of the standardization process but also against any reason. -<p>The fact that during the BRM there were substantial changes to the specifications seems to be confirmed by this short sentence from Microsoft <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2008/03/02/more-discussion-of-the-open-xml-brm.aspx">James Matusow</a> (which I find otherwise biased, and this is the reason why I decided to ignore his post before):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p>After 5 months of ongoing communications about the dispositions with NSBs around the world, the constructive, positive adoption of changes to the specification was the outcome of the BRM.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>This sounds logical to me. And it sounds logical that Microsoft is going to implement the changes once they have been approved, although this doesn&#8217;t mean that OOXML - once all the changes have been implemented - it&#8217;s going to be an interoperable standard, as the changes - many of them - are just one of the necessary steps in the right direction. -<p>I&#8217;m puzzled and confused&#8230; Any help?</p> -<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org">ECMA</a> has issued a <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org/news/TC45_current_work/BRM%20Results.htm">press release</a> about the Ballot Resolution Meeting, with a couple of paragraphs which clarify the outcome of the BRM:</p> -<blockquote><p>The final DIS 29500 text includes updated dispositions to a number of key comments, such as multi-part standard; transitional vs. strict conformance classes; more strict date system in spreadsheets based on the ISO standard; flexible units of measurement and very significant advances in accessibility, internationalization (BiDi) and multi-platform support. -<p>Several of the issues which will not be reflected into the final DIS text have been deferred to consideration during the maintenance phase, which, if the standard is approved would be managed by ISO/IEC JTC 1 with the active collaboration of Ecma International.</p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>Although I understand that a huge effort has been put by all the participants in order to get to this stage, I think that this is a result that doesn&#8217;t allow the standardization of OOXML, as there are still several issues unresolved.</p> -<div class="wlWriterSmartContent" id="scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:7981e881-1065-46a6-ada5-2f913dcc13f8">Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/brm" rel="tag">brm</a>,<a href="http://technorati.com/tags/ooxml" rel="tag">ooxml</a></div> -<p><map name="google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7"> -<area shape="rect" href="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/imgclick/448?pos=0" coords="1,2,367,28" /> -<area shape="rect" href="http://services.google.com/feedback/abg" coords="384,10,453,23" /></map> -<img usemap="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ItalosOOoBlog#google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7" border="0" src="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/ads?format=468x30_aff_img&amp;client=&amp;channel=&amp;output=png&amp;cuid=448&amp;url= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.italovignoli.org%2F%3Fp%3D448" /></p><p class="akst_link"><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=448&amp;akst_action=share-this" title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_448" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> -</p> - Tags: <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=communication" title="communication">communication</a>, <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=software" title="software">software</a><br /> - - Last posts on the same subject. - <ul class="st-related-posts"> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=286" title="The Year of the 3.0 (25 January 2008)">The Year of the 3.0</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=137" title="EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open (15 February 2008)">EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=352" title="Thoughts on Software IP and Patents (19 October 2007)">Thoughts on Software IP and Patents</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=65" title="Chi sono gli utenti di OpenOffice.org? 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Reflects my activity inside the OOo community.</subtitle> - <link rel="self" href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?feed=rss2"/> - <id>http://www.italovignoli.org/?feed=rss2</id> - <updated>2008-03-11T12:00:22+00:00</updated> - </source> - </entry> - </feed> File [changed]: index.html Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/index.html?r1=1.192&r2=1.193 Delta lines: +18 -57 --------------------- --- index.html 2008-03-11 18:00:26+0000 1.192 +++ index.html 2008-03-12 00:00:33+0000 1.193 @@ -34,8 +34,25 @@ <a href="rss20.xml"><img src="rss2.gif" alt="Link to RSS 2 feed" /></a> </div> -<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: March 11, 2008 06:00 PM GMT</em></p> +<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: March 12, 2008 12:00 AM GMT</em></p> +<h2>March 11, 2008</h2> +<h3> +<a href="http://www.solidoffice.com"; title="SolidOffice » OpenOffice.org"> +Benjamin Horst</a> : +<a href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/757";> +OpenOffice.org to Adopt LGPLv3 License</a> +</h3> +<p> +<p>The news first arrived last week that <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/openoffice_org_goes_to_lgplv3";>OpenOffice.org will adopt LGPLv3 as of OOo 3.0 beta</a>.</p> +<p>This change and some other improvements are described in Simon Phipp’s post linked above.</p> +<p>He explains: “OpenOffice.org’s license will change to LGPLv3 as part of a broader set of changes intended to improve the OpenOffice.org community for everyone. Those changes also include a switch to the latest version of the standard Sun contributor agreement, with an addendum specifically tailored to the needs of the OpenOffice.org community. There’s increased latitude for documentation writers to publish their work on OpenOffice.org. And in future, plugins for OpenOffice.org may host their source code directly on the community site without copyright being shared, helping collaboration within the community.”</p></p> +<p> +<em><a href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/757";>by Benjamin Horst at March 11, 2008 07:26 PM GMT</a></em> +</p> +<br /> +<hr /> +<br /> <h2>March 10, 2008</h2> <h3> <a href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/"; title="OpenOffice.org Marketing Blog"> @@ -444,62 +461,6 @@ <br /> <hr /> <br /> -<h3> -<a href="http://www.italovignoli.org"; title="Marketing OSS"> -Italo Vignoli</a> : -<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/244962432/";> -Iâm confused, and Iâm not alone</a> -</h3> -<p> -<p><a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/author/maslett/";>Matthew Aslett</a> of <a href="http://www.the451group.com/";>The 451 Group</a> comments about the <a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/03/03/a-slight-difference-of-opinion/";>Geneva BRM</a>. He is probably confused as much as I am, but he reports a number of opinions (including those that I’ve mentioned in my <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=447";>previous post</a>).</p> -<p>I point out Matthew’s last two paragraphs:</p> -<blockquote><p>Admittedly I am quoting selectively, but you have to wonder whether a “standard” that has been through a process that divides opinion so much is worthy of the title, whatever the result. The most damning indictment, in my personal view, comes from Yoon Kit of the Malaysian delegation: -<p><em>We eventually found out that if any changes affected current implementations it would certainly be rejected. This seriously compromised any elegant solutions, and it forced us to be mindful of the “existing corpus of documents” in the wild. I donât believe that that should be our problem, but there was a large and vocal voting bloc which would oppose any changes to the spec which would “break” Ecma 376. […]</em></p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>From my informal talks with Sam Ramji of Microsoft I’ve understood that the company has already started working at the code of Office 2007, in order to make the product more interoperable. This is confirmed by the following statement, which is included in the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-21ExpandInteroperabilityPR.mspx";>press release</a> distributed on February 21 to support the conference call with Steve Ballmer, Ray Ozzie, Bob Muglia and Brad Smith (you know, they use Excel to sort the list alphabetically ;-), and the software includes a non standard “hierarchy filter”):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p><strong>Enhancing Office 2007 to provide greater flexibility of document formats</strong>. To promote user choice among document formats, Microsoft will design new APIs for the Word, Excel and PowerPoint applications in Office 2007 to enable developers to plug in additional document formats and to enable users to set these formats as their default for saving documents.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>As a logical consequence, once ECMA has started the standardization process for Microsoft OOXML it should have been clear that the process itself could have asked for substancial amendments to the document format, and that refusing or opposing such changes would have been simply not coherent with the process. -<p>Therefore, I’m quite surprised for Yoon Kit statement, because - if completely true (the only problem I see is the language one, as writing in English when it’s not your mother tongue is a daily challenge) - it goes not only against the principles of the standardization process but also against any reason. -<p>The fact that during the BRM there were substantial changes to the specifications seems to be confirmed by this short sentence from Microsoft <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2008/03/02/more-discussion-of-the-open-xml-brm.aspx";>James Matusow</a> (which I find otherwise biased, and this is the reason why I decided to ignore his post before):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p>After 5 months of ongoing communications about the dispositions with NSBs around the world, the constructive, positive adoption of changes to the specification was the outcome of the BRM.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>This sounds logical to me. And it sounds logical that Microsoft is going to implement the changes once they have been approved, although this doesn’t mean that OOXML - once all the changes have been implemented - it’s going to be an interoperable standard, as the changes - many of them - are just one of the necessary steps in the right direction. -<p>I’m puzzled and confused… Any help?</p> -<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org";>ECMA</a> has issued a <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org/news/TC45_current_work/BRM%20Results.htm";>press release</a> about the Ballot Resolution Meeting, with a couple of paragraphs which clarify the outcome of the BRM:</p> -<blockquote><p>The final DIS 29500 text includes updated dispositions to a number of key comments, such as multi-part standard; transitional vs. strict conformance classes; more strict date system in spreadsheets based on the ISO standard; flexible units of measurement and very significant advances in accessibility, internationalization (BiDi) and multi-platform support. -<p>Several of the issues which will not be reflected into the final DIS text have been deferred to consideration during the maintenance phase, which, if the standard is approved would be managed by ISO/IEC JTC 1 with the active collaboration of Ecma International.</p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>Although I understand that a huge effort has been put by all the participants in order to get to this stage, I think that this is a result that doesn’t allow the standardization of OOXML, as there are still several issues unresolved.</p> -<div class="wlWriterSmartContent" id="scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:7981e881-1065-46a6-ada5-2f913dcc13f8">Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/brm"; rel="tag">brm</a>,<a href="http://technorati.com/tags/ooxml"; rel="tag">ooxml</a></div> -<p><map name="google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7"> -<area shape="rect" href="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/imgclick/448?pos=0"; coords="1,2,367,28" /> -<area shape="rect" href="http://services.google.com/feedback/abg"; coords="384,10,453,23" /></map> -<img usemap="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ItalosOOoBlog#google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7"; border="0" src="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/ads?format=468x30_aff_img&client=&channel=&output=png&cuid=448&url= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.italovignoli.org%2F%3Fp%3D448" /></p><p class="akst_link"><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=448&akst_action=share-this"; title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_448" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> -</p> - Tags: <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=communication"; title="communication">communication</a>, <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=software"; title="software">software</a><br /> - - Last posts on the same subject. - <ul class="st-related-posts"> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=286"; title="The Year of the 3.0 (25 January 2008)">The Year of the 3.0</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=137"; title="EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open (15 February 2008)">EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=352"; title="Thoughts on Software IP and Patents (19 October 2007)">Thoughts on Software IP and Patents</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=65"; title="Chi sono gli utenti di OpenOffice.org? 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Those changes also include a switch to the latest version of the standard Sun contributor agreement, with an addendum specifically tailored to the needs of the OpenOffice.org community. There&#8217;s increased latitude for documentation writers to publish their work on OpenOffice.org. And in future, plugins for OpenOffice.org may host their source code directly on the community site without copyright being shared, helping collaboration within the community.&#8221;</p></content:encoded> + <dc:date>2008-03-11T19:26:04+00:00</dc:date> +</item> <item rdf:about="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-1040995925811034"> <title>OOo Marketeers: OpenOffice.org at OpenExpo in Bern, Switzerland</title> <link>http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/03/openofficeorg-at-openexpo-in-bern.html</link> @@ -288,53 +296,5 @@ </div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/245095134" height="1" width="1" /></content:encoded> <dc:date>2008-03-03T21:31:05+00:00</dc:date> </item> -<item rdf:about="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=448";> - <title>Italo Vignoli: Iâm confused, and Iâm not alone</title> - <link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/244962432/</link> - <content:encoded><p><a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/author/maslett/">Matthew Aslett</a> of <a href="http://www.the451group.com/">The 451 Group</a> comments about the <a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/03/03/a-slight-difference-of-opinion/">Geneva BRM</a>. He is probably confused as much as I am, but he reports a number of opinions (including those that I&#8217;ve mentioned in my <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=447">previous post</a>).</p> -<p>I point out Matthew&#8217;s last two paragraphs:</p> -<blockquote><p>Admittedly I am quoting selectively, but you have to wonder whether a &#8220;standard&#8221; that has been through a process that divides opinion so much is worthy of the title, whatever the result. The most damning indictment, in my personal view, comes from Yoon Kit of the Malaysian delegation: -<p><em>We eventually found out that if any changes affected current implementations it would certainly be rejected. This seriously compromised any elegant solutions, and it forced us to be mindful of the &#8220;existing corpus of documents&#8221; in the wild. I donât believe that that should be our problem, but there was a large and vocal voting bloc which would oppose any changes to the spec which would &#8220;break&#8221; Ecma 376. [&#8230;]</em></p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>From my informal talks with Sam Ramji of Microsoft I&#8217;ve understood that the company has already started working at the code of Office 2007, in order to make the product more interoperable. This is confirmed by the following statement, which is included in the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-21ExpandInteroperabilityPR.mspx">press release</a> distributed on February 21 to support the conference call with Steve Ballmer, Ray Ozzie, Bob Muglia and Brad Smith (you know, they use Excel to sort the list alphabetically ;-), and the software includes a non standard &#8220;hierarchy filter&#8221;):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p><strong>Enhancing Office 2007 to provide greater flexibility of document formats</strong>. To promote user choice among document formats, Microsoft will design new APIs for the Word, Excel and PowerPoint applications in Office 2007 to enable developers to plug in additional document formats and to enable users to set these formats as their default for saving documents.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>As a logical consequence, once ECMA has started the standardization process for Microsoft OOXML it should have been clear that the process itself could have asked for substancial amendments to the document format, and that refusing or opposing such changes would have been simply not coherent with the process. -<p>Therefore, I&#8217;m quite surprised for Yoon Kit statement, because - if completely true (the only problem I see is the language one, as writing in English when it&#8217;s not your mother tongue is a daily challenge) - it goes not only against the principles of the standardization process but also against any reason. -<p>The fact that during the BRM there were substantial changes to the specifications seems to be confirmed by this short sentence from Microsoft <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2008/03/02/more-discussion-of-the-open-xml-brm.aspx">James Matusow</a> (which I find otherwise biased, and this is the reason why I decided to ignore his post before):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p>After 5 months of ongoing communications about the dispositions with NSBs around the world, the constructive, positive adoption of changes to the specification was the outcome of the BRM.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>This sounds logical to me. And it sounds logical that Microsoft is going to implement the changes once they have been approved, although this doesn&#8217;t mean that OOXML - once all the changes have been implemented - it&#8217;s going to be an interoperable standard, as the changes - many of them - are just one of the necessary steps in the right direction. -<p>I&#8217;m puzzled and confused&#8230; Any help?</p> -<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org">ECMA</a> has issued a <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org/news/TC45_current_work/BRM%20Results.htm">press release</a> about the Ballot Resolution Meeting, with a couple of paragraphs which clarify the outcome of the BRM:</p> -<blockquote><p>The final DIS 29500 text includes updated dispositions to a number of key comments, such as multi-part standard; transitional vs. strict conformance classes; more strict date system in spreadsheets based on the ISO standard; flexible units of measurement and very significant advances in accessibility, internationalization (BiDi) and multi-platform support. -<p>Several of the issues which will not be reflected into the final DIS text have been deferred to consideration during the maintenance phase, which, if the standard is approved would be managed by ISO/IEC JTC 1 with the active collaboration of Ecma International.</p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>Although I understand that a huge effort has been put by all the participants in order to get to this stage, I think that this is a result that doesn&#8217;t allow the standardization of OOXML, as there are still several issues unresolved.</p> -<div class="wlWriterSmartContent" id="scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:7981e881-1065-46a6-ada5-2f913dcc13f8">Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/brm" rel="tag">brm</a>,<a href="http://technorati.com/tags/ooxml" rel="tag">ooxml</a></div> -<p><map name="google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7"> -<area shape="rect" href="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/imgclick/448?pos=0" coords="1,2,367,28" /> -<area shape="rect" href="http://services.google.com/feedback/abg" coords="384,10,453,23" /></map> -<img usemap="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ItalosOOoBlog#google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7" border="0" src="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/ads?format=468x30_aff_img&amp;client=&amp;channel=&amp;output=png&amp;cuid=448&amp;url= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.italovignoli.org%2F%3Fp%3D448" /></p><p class="akst_link"><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=448&amp;akst_action=share-this" title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_448" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> -</p> - Tags: <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=communication" title="communication">communication</a>, <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=software" title="software">software</a><br /> - - Last posts on the same subject. - <ul class="st-related-posts"> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=286" title="The Year of the 3.0 (25 January 2008)">The Year of the 3.0</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=137" title="EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open (15 February 2008)">EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=352" title="Thoughts on Software IP and Patents (19 October 2007)">Thoughts on Software IP and Patents</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=65" title="Chi sono gli utenti di OpenOffice.org? 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Those changes also include a switch to the latest version of the standard Sun contributor agreement, with an addendum specifically tailored to the needs of the OpenOffice.org community. There&#8217;s increased latitude for documentation writers to publish their work on OpenOffice.org. And in future, plugins for OpenOffice.org may host their source code directly on the community site without copyright being shared, helping collaboration within the community.&#8221;</p></description> + <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:26:04 +0000</pubDate> +</item> +<item> <title>OOo Marketeers: OpenOffice.org at OpenExpo in Bern, Switzerland</title> <guid>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-1040995925811034</guid> <link>http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/03/openofficeorg-at-openexpo-in-bern.html</link> @@ -274,55 +283,6 @@ </div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/245095134" height="1" width="1" /></description> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate> </item> -<item> - <title>Italo Vignoli: Iâm confused, and Iâm not alone</title> - <guid>http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=448</guid> - <link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/244962432/</link> - <description><p><a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/author/maslett/">Matthew Aslett</a> of <a href="http://www.the451group.com/">The 451 Group</a> comments about the <a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2008/03/03/a-slight-difference-of-opinion/">Geneva BRM</a>. He is probably confused as much as I am, but he reports a number of opinions (including those that I&#8217;ve mentioned in my <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=447">previous post</a>).</p> -<p>I point out Matthew&#8217;s last two paragraphs:</p> -<blockquote><p>Admittedly I am quoting selectively, but you have to wonder whether a &#8220;standard&#8221; that has been through a process that divides opinion so much is worthy of the title, whatever the result. The most damning indictment, in my personal view, comes from Yoon Kit of the Malaysian delegation: -<p><em>We eventually found out that if any changes affected current implementations it would certainly be rejected. This seriously compromised any elegant solutions, and it forced us to be mindful of the &#8220;existing corpus of documents&#8221; in the wild. I donât believe that that should be our problem, but there was a large and vocal voting bloc which would oppose any changes to the spec which would &#8220;break&#8221; Ecma 376. [&#8230;]</em></p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>From my informal talks with Sam Ramji of Microsoft I&#8217;ve understood that the company has already started working at the code of Office 2007, in order to make the product more interoperable. This is confirmed by the following statement, which is included in the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-21ExpandInteroperabilityPR.mspx">press release</a> distributed on February 21 to support the conference call with Steve Ballmer, Ray Ozzie, Bob Muglia and Brad Smith (you know, they use Excel to sort the list alphabetically ;-), and the software includes a non standard &#8220;hierarchy filter&#8221;):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p><strong>Enhancing Office 2007 to provide greater flexibility of document formats</strong>. To promote user choice among document formats, Microsoft will design new APIs for the Word, Excel and PowerPoint applications in Office 2007 to enable developers to plug in additional document formats and to enable users to set these formats as their default for saving documents.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>As a logical consequence, once ECMA has started the standardization process for Microsoft OOXML it should have been clear that the process itself could have asked for substancial amendments to the document format, and that refusing or opposing such changes would have been simply not coherent with the process. -<p>Therefore, I&#8217;m quite surprised for Yoon Kit statement, because - if completely true (the only problem I see is the language one, as writing in English when it&#8217;s not your mother tongue is a daily challenge) - it goes not only against the principles of the standardization process but also against any reason. -<p>The fact that during the BRM there were substantial changes to the specifications seems to be confirmed by this short sentence from Microsoft <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonmatusow/archive/2008/03/02/more-discussion-of-the-open-xml-brm.aspx">James Matusow</a> (which I find otherwise biased, and this is the reason why I decided to ignore his post before):<br /> -<blockquote> -<p>After 5 months of ongoing communications about the dispositions with NSBs around the world, the constructive, positive adoption of changes to the specification was the outcome of the BRM.</p> -</blockquote> -<p>This sounds logical to me. And it sounds logical that Microsoft is going to implement the changes once they have been approved, although this doesn&#8217;t mean that OOXML - once all the changes have been implemented - it&#8217;s going to be an interoperable standard, as the changes - many of them - are just one of the necessary steps in the right direction. -<p>I&#8217;m puzzled and confused&#8230; Any help?</p> -<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>: <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org">ECMA</a> has issued a <a href="http://www.ecma-international.org/news/TC45_current_work/BRM%20Results.htm">press release</a> about the Ballot Resolution Meeting, with a couple of paragraphs which clarify the outcome of the BRM:</p> -<blockquote><p>The final DIS 29500 text includes updated dispositions to a number of key comments, such as multi-part standard; transitional vs. strict conformance classes; more strict date system in spreadsheets based on the ISO standard; flexible units of measurement and very significant advances in accessibility, internationalization (BiDi) and multi-platform support. -<p>Several of the issues which will not be reflected into the final DIS text have been deferred to consideration during the maintenance phase, which, if the standard is approved would be managed by ISO/IEC JTC 1 with the active collaboration of Ecma International.</p> -</p></blockquote> -<p>Although I understand that a huge effort has been put by all the participants in order to get to this stage, I think that this is a result that doesn&#8217;t allow the standardization of OOXML, as there are still several issues unresolved.</p> -<div class="wlWriterSmartContent" id="scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:7981e881-1065-46a6-ada5-2f913dcc13f8">Technorati Tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/brm" rel="tag">brm</a>,<a href="http://technorati.com/tags/ooxml" rel="tag">ooxml</a></div> -<p><map name="google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7"> -<area shape="rect" href="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/imgclick/448?pos=0" coords="1,2,367,28" /> -<area shape="rect" href="http://services.google.com/feedback/abg" coords="384,10,453,23" /></map> -<img usemap="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ItalosOOoBlog#google_ad_map_448_9e44ca10d031a5e7" border="0" src="http://imageads.googleadservices.com/pagead/ads?format=468x30_aff_img&amp;client=&amp;channel=&amp;output=png&amp;cuid=448&amp;url= http%3A%2F%2Fwww.italovignoli.org%2F%3Fp%3D448" /></p><p class="akst_link"><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=448&amp;akst_action=share-this" title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_448" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> -</p> - Tags: <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=communication" title="communication">communication</a>, <a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?tag=software" title="software">software</a><br /> - - Last posts on the same subject. - <ul class="st-related-posts"> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=286" title="The Year of the 3.0 (25 January 2008)">The Year of the 3.0</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=137" title="EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open (15 February 2008)">EclipseWorld 2008 Call for Speakers now open</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=352" title="Thoughts on Software IP and Patents (19 October 2007)">Thoughts on Software IP and Patents</a> (0)</li> - <li><a href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=65" title="Chi sono gli utenti di OpenOffice.org? 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