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Log: Planet run at Wed May 14 19:00:13 BST 2008 File Changes: Directory: /marketing/www/planet/ ================================= File [changed]: atom.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/atom.xml?r1=1.443&r2=1.444 Delta lines: +43 -28 --------------------- --- atom.xml 2008-05-14 12:00:14+0000 1.443 +++ atom.xml 2008-05-14 18:00:17+0000 1.444 @@ -5,9 +5,47 @@ <link rel="self" href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/atom.xml"/> <link href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/"/> <id>http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/atom.xml</id> - <updated>2008-05-14T12:00:30+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-05-14T18:00:31+00:00</updated> <generator uri="http://www.planetplanet.org/";>Planet/2.0 +http://www.planetplanet.org</generator> + <entry xml:lang="en"> + <title type="html">The standard that was not and the Hague Declaration</title> + <link href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/"/> + <id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/</id> + <updated>2008-05-14T15:35:42+00:00</updated> + <content type="html"><p>We are on the 14 <sup>th</sup> of May and OOXML is an ISO standard. Slight problem: there is no known specification or definitive draft of that ISO standard. To be sure, we know what the first version of Ecma 376 looks like, and we know it pretty well, although it&#8217;s 6000 pages long. What we also know is that over a thousands of comments were being addressed during the Ballot Resolution Meeting in Geneva, although a great part of them did not find a satisfactory solution. Regardless of the slight glitch in the JTC-1 rules that was witnessed in Geneva, it is likely that these 1000 comments will require some thorough rewriting of the first and only known version of Ecma 376 in order to become an ISO standard.This point was addressed partly by <strike>forcing</strike> having the national standards bodies worldwide to approve that specification even without reading a second draft.Some people including me do find this situation to be extremely damageable both to the standardization processes and the burgeonning digital public sphere.</p> +<p>Some others take a more pragmatical approach, but even that one is very much telling about the whole OOXML farce. In this category, we find the OpenOffice.org project. Despite what Microsoft will tell you, <em>OpenOffice.org does not and will not provide OOXML « interoperability » .</em> <span>It will however provide an import filter that users will be able to use in order to import documents formatted in the format</span> <em>used by Microsoft Office 2007 and 2008 that bears the name of Microsoft Office Open XML(OOXML).</em> <span> </span>What this means is that the OpenOffice.org project has to work directly on the files edited and created by MS Office 2007 and 2008 in order to provide compatibility and <em>does not use the OOXML specification, as it is not implemented by MS Office 2007 and Microsoft Office 2008.</em> <span>So much for interoperability. </span>The jury is still out, by the way, on the search for OOXML implementations. The ones that exist are either broken or else very limited (even the famous Novell plugin). <span></span></p> +<p>Sometimes, life can unfold its course like a novel by Borges. Despite the fact that OOXML <em>does not exist ,</em> <span>the DIN has invited the Afnor committee to participate in its convergence committee. This committee is in charge of studying the compatibility issues between ODF 1.0 and OOXML. But since OOXML as an ISO standard does not exist, I can only imagine how interesting their work sessions can be:</span></p> +<p> </p><span>« -</span> <em>Say Herr Dingsbumms, what do you think about the capacity of OOXML to rename every existing concept humanity has created so far in its very own way?</em> +<li> <em>Herr Muschelschwantz, I think this is a great idea. But I don&#8217;t think it will map very well with the present ODF standard.</em></li> +<li> <em>And what about OOXML&#8217;s ability to deal with every known and spellable word in any past or present language?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is for sure a very interesting feature, Herr Muschelschwantz, but I think it&#8217;s too limited. We should work in the sense of having OOXML integrate every IMPOSSIBLE combination of letters, otherwise nobody will be using it.</em></li> +<li> <em>But Herr Dingsbumms, that feature is already included! You just have to imagine it and it pops up inside the spec!</em></li> +<li> <em>Really? Mein Gott! That&#8217;s is wunderbar! But tell me, how does all this map to ODF?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is a problem to be sure. We cannot map these features to ODF&#8230;</em>-Enters somebody from Microsoft-</li> +<li> <em>Gentlemen, we found a solution: we&#8217;ll label these features transitionnal while you think very hard about other mapping issues between OOXML and ODF and the solutions to these issues will be the ones you decide!</em></li> +<li> <em>Super! Well I think we worked very well today Herr Dingsbumms.</em></li> +<li> <em>Indeed Herr Muschelschwantz, what an interesting job we have! » </em></li> + +<p>That little episode being over now, I would like to tell you about an existing initiative: <a href="http://www.digistan.org/">The Digital Standards Group</a>, of which I am one of the proud co-founders, has published a manifesto called <a href="http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en">the Hague Declaration</a>. My respected colleague in this group, Andy Updegrove has written <a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog">a very nice introduction about it</a>.</p> +<p>In short, what does the Hague Declaration and the Digital Standards Organisation stand for? The Hague Declaration ackowledge the growing role of information technologies in the daily lives of citizens, businesses and governments worldwide. This growing importance should not be understimated, and neither should the amount of our rights and civic processes be underestimated too. This is how the Hague Declaration makes the case for the use of openness and freedom in software and networks, and does it by recommending the use of Free and Open Source Software and Open Standards. In fact, Open Standards, more than Open Source, is the focus of the Digital Standards Organisation. It thus calls governments and vendors to realize both the challenge and the opportunity of Open Standards as technology now governs increasing portions of our political, civic, and social lives.</p> +<p>By doing so, the Hague Declaration continues a worldwide conversation that has started with the development of OpenDocument Format. This conversation is far to be over; in fact, it is just starting, and everybody should take part in it, as vendors are rushing to propose evermore proprietary solutions relying on closed specifications, ultimately forcing us to relinquish our control over our data and our rights. </p> +<p>We hope you will join us by signing this manifesto.<br clear="left" /></p> +<p class="akst_link"><a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=67&akst_action=share-this" title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_67" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> +</p></content> + <author> + <name>Charles Schulz</name> + <uri>http://standardsandfreedom.net</uri> + </author> + <source> + <title type="html">Moved by Freedom - Powered by Standards » OOo Postings</title> + <subtitle type="html">A weblog by Charles-H. Schulz.</subtitle> + <link rel="self" href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed"/> + <id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed</id> + <updated>2008-05-14T18:00:16+00:00</updated> + </source> + </entry> + <entry xml:lang="en-us"> <title type="html">OpenSolaris running on popular Eee PC</title> <link href="http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/opensolaris_running_on_popular_eee"/> @@ -110,7 +148,7 @@ <subtitle type="html">A weblog by Charles-H. Schulz.</subtitle> <link rel="self" href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed"/> <id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed</id> - <updated>2008-05-13T12:00:15+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-05-14T18:00:16+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> @@ -128,7 +166,7 @@ <title type="html">jpmcc's shared items in Google Reader</title> <link rel="self" href="http://www.google.co.uk/reader/public/atom/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast"/> <id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id> - <updated>2008-05-14T12:00:17+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-05-14T18:00:18+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> @@ -217,7 +255,7 @@ <title type="html">jpmcc's shared items in Google Reader</title> <link rel="self" href="http://www.google.co.uk/reader/public/atom/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast"/> <id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id> - <updated>2008-05-14T12:00:17+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-05-14T18:00:18+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> @@ -443,30 +481,7 @@ <title type="html">jpmcc's shared items in Google Reader</title> <link rel="self" href="http://www.google.co.uk/reader/public/atom/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast"/> <id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id> - <updated>2008-05-14T12:00:17+00:00</updated> - </source> - </entry> - - <entry xml:lang="en"> - <title type="html">OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption in Malaysia</title> - <link href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/792"/> - <id>http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=792</id> - <updated>2008-04-30T11:41:55+00:00</updated> - <content type="html"><p>Colin Charles notes the government of Malaysia has progressed in its path to OpenOffice and ODF adoption in his post &#8220;<a href="http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2008/04/27/openofficeorg-and-odf-adoption-in-malaysia-thumbs-up">OpenOffice.org and ODF adoption in Malaysia - thumbs up!</a>&#8221;</p> -<p>&#8220;MAMPU, the Malaysian Administrative Modernisation and Management Planning Unit, decided that they were going to go OpenOffice.org and go ODF, and dump Microsoft Office by year-end 2008.&#8221;</p> -<p>The story gets even better, as many of Malaysia&#8217;s federal and state government agencies have already migrated to OpenOffice over the past few years, and more are planning to do so this year.</p> -<p>Colin Charles writes, &#8220;Now, you can hold them to their word, as they update a <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">Wiki page</a>, informing you about how many agencies are moving to OpenOffice.org. Big wins, once all of the Malaysian government related <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">agencies are on OpenOffice.org</a> (open source software in general). Again, read <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption</a>!&#8221;</p> -<p>Note the links in the above paragraph all point to the same location, but it&#8217;s well worth a visit to see the list of agencies that have rolled out OOo to hundreds or even thousands of their employees across the country.</p></content> - <author> - <name>Benjamin Horst</name> - <uri>http://www.solidoffice.com</uri> - </author> - <source> - <title type="html">SolidOffice » OpenOffice.org</title> - <subtitle type="html">Home of The Tiny Guide to OpenOffice.org</subtitle> - <link rel="self" href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed"/> - <id>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed</id> - <updated>2008-05-13T18:00:16+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-05-14T18:00:18+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> File [changed]: index.html Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/index.html?r1=1.443&r2=1.444 Delta lines: +34 -20 --------------------- --- index.html 2008-05-14 12:00:15+0000 1.443 +++ index.html 2008-05-14 18:00:18+0000 1.444 @@ -34,10 +34,43 @@ <a href="rss20.xml"><img src="rss2.gif" alt="Link to RSS 2 feed" /></a> </div> -<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: May 14, 2008 12:00 PM GMT</em></p> +<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: May 14, 2008 06:00 PM GMT</em></p> <h2>May 14, 2008</h2> <h3> +<a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net"; title="Moved by Freedom - Powered by Standards » OOo Postings"> +Charles Schulz</a> : +<a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/";> +The standard that was not and the Hague Declaration</a> +</h3> +<p> +<p>We are on the 14 <sup>th</sup> of May and OOXML is an ISO standard. Slight problem: there is no known specification or definitive draft of that ISO standard. To be sure, we know what the first version of Ecma 376 looks like, and we know it pretty well, although it’s 6000 pages long. What we also know is that over a thousands of comments were being addressed during the Ballot Resolution Meeting in Geneva, although a great part of them did not find a satisfactory solution. Regardless of the slight glitch in the JTC-1 rules that was witnessed in Geneva, it is likely that these 1000 comments will require some thorough rewriting of the first and only known version of Ecma 376 in order to become an ISO standard.This point was addressed partly by <strike>forcing</strike> having the national standards bodies worldwide to approve that specification even without reading a second draft.Some people including me do find this situation to be extremely damageable both to the standardization processes and the burgeonning digital public sphere.</p> +<p>Some others take a more pragmatical approach, but even that one is very much telling about the whole OOXML farce. In this category, we find the OpenOffice.org project. Despite what Microsoft will tell you, <em>OpenOffice.org does not and will not provide OOXML « interoperability » .</em> <span>It will however provide an import filter that users will be able to use in order to import documents formatted in the format</span> <em>used by Microsoft Office 2007 and 2008 that bears the name of Microsoft Office Open XML(OOXML).</em> <span> </span>What this means is that the OpenOffice.org project has to work directly on the files edited and created by MS Office 2007 and 2008 in order to provide compatibility and <em>does not use the OOXML specification, as it is not implemented by MS Office 2007 and Microsoft Office 2008.</em> <span>So much for interoperability. </span>The jury is still out, by the way, on the search for OOXML implementations. The ones that exist are either broken or else very limited (even the famous Novell plugin). <span></span></p> +<p>Sometimes, life can unfold its course like a novel by Borges. Despite the fact that OOXML <em>does not exist ,</em> <span>the DIN has invited the Afnor committee to participate in its convergence committee. This committee is in charge of studying the compatibility issues between ODF 1.0 and OOXML. But since OOXML as an ISO standard does not exist, I can only imagine how interesting their work sessions can be:</span></p> +<p> </p><span>« -</span> <em>Say Herr Dingsbumms, what do you think about the capacity of OOXML to rename every existing concept humanity has created so far in its very own way?</em> +<li> <em>Herr Muschelschwantz, I think this is a great idea. But I don’t think it will map very well with the present ODF standard.</em></li> +<li> <em>And what about OOXML’s ability to deal with every known and spellable word in any past or present language?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is for sure a very interesting feature, Herr Muschelschwantz, but I think it’s too limited. We should work in the sense of having OOXML integrate every IMPOSSIBLE combination of letters, otherwise nobody will be using it.</em></li> +<li> <em>But Herr Dingsbumms, that feature is already included! You just have to imagine it and it pops up inside the spec!</em></li> +<li> <em>Really? Mein Gott! That’s is wunderbar! But tell me, how does all this map to ODF?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is a problem to be sure. We cannot map these features to ODF…</em>-Enters somebody from Microsoft-</li> +<li> <em>Gentlemen, we found a solution: we’ll label these features transitionnal while you think very hard about other mapping issues between OOXML and ODF and the solutions to these issues will be the ones you decide!</em></li> +<li> <em>Super! Well I think we worked very well today Herr Dingsbumms.</em></li> +<li> <em>Indeed Herr Muschelschwantz, what an interesting job we have! » </em></li> + +<p>That little episode being over now, I would like to tell you about an existing initiative: <a href="http://www.digistan.org/";>The Digital Standards Group</a>, of which I am one of the proud co-founders, has published a manifesto called <a href="http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en";>the Hague Declaration</a>. My respected colleague in this group, Andy Updegrove has written <a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog";>a very nice introduction about it</a>.</p> +<p>In short, what does the Hague Declaration and the Digital Standards Organisation stand for? The Hague Declaration ackowledge the growing role of information technologies in the daily lives of citizens, businesses and governments worldwide. This growing importance should not be understimated, and neither should the amount of our rights and civic processes be underestimated too. This is how the Hague Declaration makes the case for the use of openness and freedom in software and networks, and does it by recommending the use of Free and Open Source Software and Open Standards. In fact, Open Standards, more than Open Source, is the focus of the Digital Standards Organisation. It thus calls governments and vendors to realize both the challenge and the opportunity of Open Standards as technology now governs increasing portions of our political, civic, and social lives.</p> +<p>By doing so, the Hague Declaration continues a worldwide conversation that has started with the development of OpenDocument Format. This conversation is far to be over; in fact, it is just starting, and everybody should take part in it, as vendors are rushing to propose evermore proprietary solutions relying on closed specifications, ultimately forcing us to relinquish our control over our data and our rights. </p> +<p>We hope you will join us by signing this manifesto.<br clear="left" /></p> +<p class="akst_link"><a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=67&akst_action=share-this"; title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_67" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> +</p></p> +<p> +<em><a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/";>by Charles at May 14, 2008 03:35 PM GMT</a></em> +</p> +<br /> +<hr /> +<br /> +<h3> <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/"; title="Erwin's StarOffice Tango"> Erwin Tenhumberg</a> : <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/opensolaris_running_on_popular_eee";> @@ -388,25 +421,6 @@ <br /> <hr /> <br /> -<h2>April 30, 2008</h2> -<h3> -<a href="http://www.solidoffice.com"; title="SolidOffice » OpenOffice.org"> -Benjamin Horst</a> : -<a href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/792";> -OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption in Malaysia</a> -</h3> -<p> -<p>Colin Charles notes the government of Malaysia has progressed in its path to OpenOffice and ODF adoption in his post “<a href="http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2008/04/27/openofficeorg-and-odf-adoption-in-malaysia-thumbs-up";>OpenOffice.org and ODF adoption in Malaysia - thumbs up!</a>”</p> -<p>“MAMPU, the Malaysian Administrative Modernisation and Management Planning Unit, decided that they were going to go OpenOffice.org and go ODF, and dump Microsoft Office by year-end 2008.”</p> -<p>The story gets even better, as many of Malaysia’s federal and state government agencies have already migrated to OpenOffice over the past few years, and more are planning to do so this year.</p> -<p>Colin Charles writes, “Now, you can hold them to their word, as they update a <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption";>Wiki page</a>, informing you about how many agencies are moving to OpenOffice.org. Big wins, once all of the Malaysian government related <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption";>agencies are on OpenOffice.org</a> (open source software in general). Again, read <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption";>OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption</a>!”</p> -<p>Note the links in the above paragraph all point to the same location, but it’s well worth a visit to see the list of agencies that have rolled out OOo to hundreds or even thousands of their employees across the country.</p></p> -<p> -<em><a href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/792";>by Benjamin Horst at April 30, 2008 11:41 AM GMT</a></em> -</p> -<br /> -<hr /> -<br /> <a id="disclaimer" name="disclaimer"></a> <p><em>Disclaimer: all views expressed on this page are those of the individual contributors, and may not reflect the views of the File [changed]: opml.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/opml.xml?r1=1.443&r2=1.444 Delta lines: +1 -1 ------------------- --- opml.xml 2008-05-14 12:00:15+0000 1.443 +++ opml.xml 2008-05-14 18:00:19+0000 1.444 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ <opml version="1.1"> <head> <title>Marketing Planet</title> - <dateModified>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:00:30 +0000</dateModified> + <dateModified>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:00:31 +0000</dateModified> <ownerName>Marketing Project</ownerName> <ownerEmail>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</ownerEmail> </head> File [changed]: rss10.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/rss10.xml?r1=1.261&r2=1.262 Delta lines: +26 -11 --------------------- --- rss10.xml 2008-05-14 06:00:13+0000 1.261 +++ rss10.xml 2008-05-14 18:00:19+0000 1.262 @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@ <items> <rdf:Seq> + <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/"; /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/opensolaris_running_on_popular_eee"; /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=799"; /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5198340507565233169.post-999217676869903400" /> @@ -32,11 +33,35 @@ <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.mealldubh.org/?p=503"; /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=793"; /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="tag:google.com,2005:reader/item/dcf42b176f7111fa" /> - <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=792"; /> </rdf:Seq> </items> </channel> +<item rdf:about="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/";> + <title>Charles Schulz: The standard that was not and the Hague Declaration</title> + <link>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/</link> + <content:encoded><p>We are on the 14 <sup>th</sup> of May and OOXML is an ISO standard. Slight problem: there is no known specification or definitive draft of that ISO standard. To be sure, we know what the first version of Ecma 376 looks like, and we know it pretty well, although it&#8217;s 6000 pages long. What we also know is that over a thousands of comments were being addressed during the Ballot Resolution Meeting in Geneva, although a great part of them did not find a satisfactory solution. Regardless of the slight glitch in the JTC-1 rules that was witnessed in Geneva, it is likely that these 1000 comments will require some thorough rewriting of the first and only known version of Ecma 376 in order to become an ISO standard.This point was addressed partly by <strike>forcing</strike> having the national standards bodies worldwide to approve that specification even without reading a second draft.Some people including me do find this situation to be extremely damageable both to the standardization processes and the burgeonning digital public sphere.</p> +<p>Some others take a more pragmatical approach, but even that one is very much telling about the whole OOXML farce. In this category, we find the OpenOffice.org project. Despite what Microsoft will tell you, <em>OpenOffice.org does not and will not provide OOXML « interoperability » .</em> <span>It will however provide an import filter that users will be able to use in order to import documents formatted in the format</span> <em>used by Microsoft Office 2007 and 2008 that bears the name of Microsoft Office Open XML(OOXML).</em> <span> </span>What this means is that the OpenOffice.org project has to work directly on the files edited and created by MS Office 2007 and 2008 in order to provide compatibility and <em>does not use the OOXML specification, as it is not implemented by MS Office 2007 and Microsoft Office 2008.</em> <span>So much for interoperability. </span>The jury is still out, by the way, on the search for OOXML implementations. The ones that exist are either broken or else very limited (even the famous Novell plugin). <span></span></p> +<p>Sometimes, life can unfold its course like a novel by Borges. Despite the fact that OOXML <em>does not exist ,</em> <span>the DIN has invited the Afnor committee to participate in its convergence committee. This committee is in charge of studying the compatibility issues between ODF 1.0 and OOXML. But since OOXML as an ISO standard does not exist, I can only imagine how interesting their work sessions can be:</span></p> +<p> </p><span>« -</span> <em>Say Herr Dingsbumms, what do you think about the capacity of OOXML to rename every existing concept humanity has created so far in its very own way?</em> +<li> <em>Herr Muschelschwantz, I think this is a great idea. But I don&#8217;t think it will map very well with the present ODF standard.</em></li> +<li> <em>And what about OOXML&#8217;s ability to deal with every known and spellable word in any past or present language?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is for sure a very interesting feature, Herr Muschelschwantz, but I think it&#8217;s too limited. We should work in the sense of having OOXML integrate every IMPOSSIBLE combination of letters, otherwise nobody will be using it.</em></li> +<li> <em>But Herr Dingsbumms, that feature is already included! You just have to imagine it and it pops up inside the spec!</em></li> +<li> <em>Really? Mein Gott! That&#8217;s is wunderbar! But tell me, how does all this map to ODF?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is a problem to be sure. We cannot map these features to ODF&#8230;</em>-Enters somebody from Microsoft-</li> +<li> <em>Gentlemen, we found a solution: we&#8217;ll label these features transitionnal while you think very hard about other mapping issues between OOXML and ODF and the solutions to these issues will be the ones you decide!</em></li> +<li> <em>Super! Well I think we worked very well today Herr Dingsbumms.</em></li> +<li> <em>Indeed Herr Muschelschwantz, what an interesting job we have! » </em></li> + +<p>That little episode being over now, I would like to tell you about an existing initiative: <a href="http://www.digistan.org/">The Digital Standards Group</a>, of which I am one of the proud co-founders, has published a manifesto called <a href="http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en">the Hague Declaration</a>. My respected colleague in this group, Andy Updegrove has written <a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog">a very nice introduction about it</a>.</p> +<p>In short, what does the Hague Declaration and the Digital Standards Organisation stand for? The Hague Declaration ackowledge the growing role of information technologies in the daily lives of citizens, businesses and governments worldwide. This growing importance should not be understimated, and neither should the amount of our rights and civic processes be underestimated too. This is how the Hague Declaration makes the case for the use of openness and freedom in software and networks, and does it by recommending the use of Free and Open Source Software and Open Standards. In fact, Open Standards, more than Open Source, is the focus of the Digital Standards Organisation. It thus calls governments and vendors to realize both the challenge and the opportunity of Open Standards as technology now governs increasing portions of our political, civic, and social lives.</p> +<p>By doing so, the Hague Declaration continues a worldwide conversation that has started with the development of OpenDocument Format. This conversation is far to be over; in fact, it is just starting, and everybody should take part in it, as vendors are rushing to propose evermore proprietary solutions relying on closed specifications, ultimately forcing us to relinquish our control over our data and our rights. </p> +<p>We hope you will join us by signing this manifesto.<br clear="left" /></p> +<p class="akst_link"><a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=67&akst_action=share-this" title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_67" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> +</p></content:encoded> + <dc:date>2008-05-14T15:35:42+00:00</dc:date> +</item> <item rdf:about="http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/opensolaris_running_on_popular_eee";> <title>Erwin Tenhumberg: OpenSolaris running on popular Eee PC</title> <link>http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/opensolaris_running_on_popular_eee</link> @@ -238,15 +263,5 @@ <dc:date>2008-05-01T12:09:46+00:00</dc:date> <dc:creator>Joost Andrae</dc:creator> </item> -<item rdf:about="http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=792";> - <title>Benjamin Horst: OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption in Malaysia</title> - <link>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/792</link> - <content:encoded><p>Colin Charles notes the government of Malaysia has progressed in its path to OpenOffice and ODF adoption in his post &#8220;<a href="http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2008/04/27/openofficeorg-and-odf-adoption-in-malaysia-thumbs-up">OpenOffice.org and ODF adoption in Malaysia - thumbs up!</a>&#8221;</p> -<p>&#8220;MAMPU, the Malaysian Administrative Modernisation and Management Planning Unit, decided that they were going to go OpenOffice.org and go ODF, and dump Microsoft Office by year-end 2008.&#8221;</p> -<p>The story gets even better, as many of Malaysia&#8217;s federal and state government agencies have already migrated to OpenOffice over the past few years, and more are planning to do so this year.</p> -<p>Colin Charles writes, &#8220;Now, you can hold them to their word, as they update a <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">Wiki page</a>, informing you about how many agencies are moving to OpenOffice.org. Big wins, once all of the Malaysian government related <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">agencies are on OpenOffice.org</a> (open source software in general). Again, read <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption</a>!&#8221;</p> -<p>Note the links in the above paragraph all point to the same location, but it&#8217;s well worth a visit to see the list of agencies that have rolled out OOo to hundreds or even thousands of their employees across the country.</p></content:encoded> - <dc:date>2008-04-30T11:41:55+00:00</dc:date> -</item> </rdf:RDF> File [changed]: rss20.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/rss20.xml?r1=1.261&r2=1.262 Delta lines: +26 -11 --------------------- --- rss20.xml 2008-05-14 06:00:14+0000 1.261 +++ rss20.xml 2008-05-14 18:00:19+0000 1.262 @@ -8,6 +8,32 @@ <description>Marketing Planet - http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/</description> <item> + <title>Charles Schulz: The standard that was not and the Hague Declaration</title> + <guid>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/</guid> + <link>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/05/14/the-standard-that-was-not-and-the-hague-declaration/</link> + <description><p>We are on the 14 <sup>th</sup> of May and OOXML is an ISO standard. Slight problem: there is no known specification or definitive draft of that ISO standard. To be sure, we know what the first version of Ecma 376 looks like, and we know it pretty well, although it&#8217;s 6000 pages long. What we also know is that over a thousands of comments were being addressed during the Ballot Resolution Meeting in Geneva, although a great part of them did not find a satisfactory solution. Regardless of the slight glitch in the JTC-1 rules that was witnessed in Geneva, it is likely that these 1000 comments will require some thorough rewriting of the first and only known version of Ecma 376 in order to become an ISO standard.This point was addressed partly by <strike>forcing</strike> having the national standards bodies worldwide to approve that specification even without reading a second draft.Some people including me do find this situation to be extremely damageable both to the standardization processes and the burgeonning digital public sphere.</p> +<p>Some others take a more pragmatical approach, but even that one is very much telling about the whole OOXML farce. In this category, we find the OpenOffice.org project. Despite what Microsoft will tell you, <em>OpenOffice.org does not and will not provide OOXML « interoperability » .</em> <span>It will however provide an import filter that users will be able to use in order to import documents formatted in the format</span> <em>used by Microsoft Office 2007 and 2008 that bears the name of Microsoft Office Open XML(OOXML).</em> <span> </span>What this means is that the OpenOffice.org project has to work directly on the files edited and created by MS Office 2007 and 2008 in order to provide compatibility and <em>does not use the OOXML specification, as it is not implemented by MS Office 2007 and Microsoft Office 2008.</em> <span>So much for interoperability. </span>The jury is still out, by the way, on the search for OOXML implementations. The ones that exist are either broken or else very limited (even the famous Novell plugin). <span></span></p> +<p>Sometimes, life can unfold its course like a novel by Borges. Despite the fact that OOXML <em>does not exist ,</em> <span>the DIN has invited the Afnor committee to participate in its convergence committee. This committee is in charge of studying the compatibility issues between ODF 1.0 and OOXML. But since OOXML as an ISO standard does not exist, I can only imagine how interesting their work sessions can be:</span></p> +<p> </p><span>« -</span> <em>Say Herr Dingsbumms, what do you think about the capacity of OOXML to rename every existing concept humanity has created so far in its very own way?</em> +<li> <em>Herr Muschelschwantz, I think this is a great idea. But I don&#8217;t think it will map very well with the present ODF standard.</em></li> +<li> <em>And what about OOXML&#8217;s ability to deal with every known and spellable word in any past or present language?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is for sure a very interesting feature, Herr Muschelschwantz, but I think it&#8217;s too limited. We should work in the sense of having OOXML integrate every IMPOSSIBLE combination of letters, otherwise nobody will be using it.</em></li> +<li> <em>But Herr Dingsbumms, that feature is already included! You just have to imagine it and it pops up inside the spec!</em></li> +<li> <em>Really? Mein Gott! That&#8217;s is wunderbar! But tell me, how does all this map to ODF?</em></li> +<li> <em>That is a problem to be sure. We cannot map these features to ODF&#8230;</em>-Enters somebody from Microsoft-</li> +<li> <em>Gentlemen, we found a solution: we&#8217;ll label these features transitionnal while you think very hard about other mapping issues between OOXML and ODF and the solutions to these issues will be the ones you decide!</em></li> +<li> <em>Super! Well I think we worked very well today Herr Dingsbumms.</em></li> +<li> <em>Indeed Herr Muschelschwantz, what an interesting job we have! » </em></li> + +<p>That little episode being over now, I would like to tell you about an existing initiative: <a href="http://www.digistan.org/">The Digital Standards Group</a>, of which I am one of the proud co-founders, has published a manifesto called <a href="http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en">the Hague Declaration</a>. My respected colleague in this group, Andy Updegrove has written <a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog">a very nice introduction about it</a>.</p> +<p>In short, what does the Hague Declaration and the Digital Standards Organisation stand for? The Hague Declaration ackowledge the growing role of information technologies in the daily lives of citizens, businesses and governments worldwide. This growing importance should not be understimated, and neither should the amount of our rights and civic processes be underestimated too. This is how the Hague Declaration makes the case for the use of openness and freedom in software and networks, and does it by recommending the use of Free and Open Source Software and Open Standards. In fact, Open Standards, more than Open Source, is the focus of the Digital Standards Organisation. It thus calls governments and vendors to realize both the challenge and the opportunity of Open Standards as technology now governs increasing portions of our political, civic, and social lives.</p> +<p>By doing so, the Hague Declaration continues a worldwide conversation that has started with the development of OpenDocument Format. This conversation is far to be over; in fact, it is just starting, and everybody should take part in it, as vendors are rushing to propose evermore proprietary solutions relying on closed specifications, ultimately forcing us to relinquish our control over our data and our rights. </p> +<p>We hope you will join us by signing this manifesto.<br clear="left" /></p> +<p class="akst_link"><a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=67&akst_action=share-this" title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_67" class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a> +</p></description> + <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:35:42 +0000</pubDate> +</item> +<item> <title>Erwin Tenhumberg: OpenSolaris running on popular Eee PC</title> <guid>http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/opensolaris_running_on_popular_eee</guid> <link>http://blogs.sun.com/dancer/entry/opensolaris_running_on_popular_eee</link> @@ -224,17 +250,6 @@ </p></description> <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:09:46 +0000</pubDate> </item> -<item> - <title>Benjamin Horst: OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption in Malaysia</title> - <guid>http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=792</guid> - <link>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/792</link> - <description><p>Colin Charles notes the government of Malaysia has progressed in its path to OpenOffice and ODF adoption in his post &#8220;<a href="http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2008/04/27/openofficeorg-and-odf-adoption-in-malaysia-thumbs-up">OpenOffice.org and ODF adoption in Malaysia - thumbs up!</a>&#8221;</p> -<p>&#8220;MAMPU, the Malaysian Administrative Modernisation and Management Planning Unit, decided that they were going to go OpenOffice.org and go ODF, and dump Microsoft Office by year-end 2008.&#8221;</p> -<p>The story gets even better, as many of Malaysia&#8217;s federal and state government agencies have already migrated to OpenOffice over the past few years, and more are planning to do so this year.</p> -<p>Colin Charles writes, &#8220;Now, you can hold them to their word, as they update a <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">Wiki page</a>, informing you about how many agencies are moving to OpenOffice.org. Big wins, once all of the Malaysian government related <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">agencies are on OpenOffice.org</a> (open source software in general). Again, read <a href="http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/desktop/OpenOffice.org/openoffice-adoption">OpenOffice.org and ODF Adoption</a>!&#8221;</p> -<p>Note the links in the above paragraph all point to the same location, but it&#8217;s well worth a visit to see the list of agencies that have rolled out OOo to hundreds or even thousands of their employees across the country.</p></description> - <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:41:55 +0000</pubDate> -</item> </channel> </rss> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
