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Log: Planet run at Mon Nov 10 00:00:14 GMT 2008 File Changes: Directory: /marketing/www/planet/ ================================= File [changed]: atom.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/atom.xml?r1=1.1145&r2=1.1146 Delta lines: +23 -23 --------------------- --- atom.xml 2008-11-09 18:00:32+0000 1.1145 +++ atom.xml 2008-11-10 00:00:38+0000 1.1146 @@ -5,9 +5,29 @@ <link rel="self" href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/atom.xml"/> <link href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/"/> <id>http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/atom.xml</id> - <updated>2008-11-09T18:00:31+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-11-10T00:00:37+00:00</updated> <generator uri="http://www.planetplanet.org/";>Planet/2.0 +http://www.planetplanet.org</generator> + <entry> + <title type="html">OpenOffice.org Conference 2008 â everything is different</title> + <link href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/11/openofficeorg-conference-2008.html"/> + <id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-750788243565343955</id> + <updated>2008-11-09T19:23:02+00:00</updated> + <content type="html">Attending <a href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/">the 6th OpenOffice.org conference</a> is a special experience. This when I compare it with the three previous conferences I attended.<br /><br />For the first time in the history of the open source project, the conference is held in a non European country. In this way, the project shows its world wide strength. Emphasize this strength, is something that can be trusted to be done the Chinese speakers. At least 8 representatives from (semi-) governmental organizations, IT-industry and education did so: "open source is important for the own industry and people". OpenOffice.org is closed into the hearts and the project fully supported.<br /><br />Also, the use of open source software helps fighting software piracy. This was underlined by Prof. Ni Guangnan from one of the universities. The light tintling is his eyes revealed that he understands quite well, that this is not the kind of 'fighting' Microsoft has in mind...<br /><br />As for my personal opinion, also has to be mentioned that every Chinese speaker emphasized the importance of protecting the environment and the desired role of ICT in this field. More directly related to the OpenOffice.org project, was the speech from Hu Caiyong, general manager from Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Technology Co. Ltd., short: Redflag 2000. Their product RedOffice knows a large adoption by national, regional and locale governments. With Redflag 2000 more than two hundred people work on RedOffice, which is based on OpenOffice.org. Last year Redflag 2000 and Sun Microsystems, the founder of the OpenOffice.org-project, signed an arrangement and from then on the cooperation intensifies, and people from Beijing and Hamburg work more together on areas as quality (QA) and development.<br /><br />But let me stick to China for another moment. Beijing also is the location for the few hundred people counting IBM team that works on Symphony, the OpenOffice.org 1-based product in the Lotus-family. Symphony's version 1.2 has just been released and Michael Karasick, manager of the Symphony team, showed their road-map for integration of their work in the main OpenOffice.org 3 code line.<br /><br />So there I sit, as representative of a small European country, looking at the impressive Asian presence. Louis Suarez-Potts, OOo-community manager, added a bit with the example of a Indian region, of which he found out recently that more than a million children at primary schools use OpenOffice.org. It is been distributed there on CD-ROM by the government. It is available in many Indian languages. The Malaysian government, to mentions something else, saved 9.5 million dollar in the last year, just by making the choice for the right office suite.<br />Here in the Netherlands all and everyone seems addicted to Microsoft products. Success stories do exist, but only after years the migrations really are starting up. Market in The Netherlands is much tougher that in Asia.<br /><br />The contribution of Michael Bemmer, general manager at Sun Hamburg, however gave me more faith. The Sun developers work with a clear vision on the future of office productivity. Apart from the already existing possibilities for collaboration and document management, integrating with OpenOffice.org, work is continuing for easier integration with much more software, will the suite be modularised, are tool for web-document integration on their way, is the function for Extensions enhanced. etcetera. And this all for a program that already enables seamless working amongst different platforms, which can be extended by using a variety of scripting and programming languages, supports more that a hundred languages for end users, has more than 8 years history, delivers a quality release 4 times a year, ⦠And that all apart from the independent document standard ODF, which is widely supported.<br /><br />After the applause for the opening ceremony, I merge in the crowd counting more than four hundred attendants. That also is more than last years. And I meet friends and people I know from France, Italy, Spain, Germany, America, Japan, China, Indonesia, Sweden, ⦠With them, I start coping the program, which with four parallel sessions gives many hard choices to make. And without any doubt, our Chines hosts will make sure that we get everything else we need, and more.<br /><br />Now it is Sunday evening. And looking back, I can give not only credits to them, but also to the those who presented at the conference. People from Sun, RedFlag 2000, Novell, IBM, people from the various countries and projects, and independent developers working with the people from Sun, all did a tremendous job with interesting talks, that much can be learnt from. It was good to see the quality with which some Chinese speakers were able to do their presentation. Not all of them of course â it is obvious that English is quite difficult for some. On the other hand, in my opinion also the presenting skills from some of our western European friends can easily be improved; something to keep in mind. Finally, after three days of conferencing, a wonderful closing diner, with great artists to entertain us, there were two days of tours. Seen lots of beautiful things. Of course a bit in a rush, so not surprisingly our guide concluded that we should come again, and than not for work but on only for enjoying the country and the people. Which is a good suggestion. People are friendly, youth is sparking, much to enjoy.<br /><br />Thanks to all who made this happen and many greeting from our Chinese friends,<br />Cor<br /><br />Cor Nouws is active member of the <a href="http://nl.openoffice.org">Dutch/Flanders OpenOffice.org-community</a> and also serves on the OpenOffice.org-Community Council. He is founder and director of a Dutch supplier of training/consultancy for OpenOffice.org.</content> + <author> + <name>floeff</name> + <email>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</email> + <uri>http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/</uri> + </author> + <source> + <title type="html">OpenOffice.org Marketing Blog</title> + <subtitle type="html">News and interesting stories about OpenOffice.org and other open source solutions.</subtitle> + <link rel="self" href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default"/> + <id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632</id> + <updated>2008-11-10T00:00:28+00:00</updated> + </source> + </entry> + <entry xml:lang="en"> <title type="html">Lies, damn lies, and Bouncer statistics</title> <link href="http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/11/08/lies-damn-lies-and-bouncer-statistics/"/> @@ -483,7 +503,7 @@ <title type="html">jpmcc's shared items in Google Reader</title> <link rel="self" href="http://www.google.co.uk/reader/public/atom/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast"/> <id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id> - <updated>2008-11-09T18:00:20+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-11-10T00:00:21+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> @@ -503,7 +523,7 @@ <subtitle type="html">News and interesting stories about OpenOffice.org and other open source solutions.</subtitle> <link rel="self" href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default"/> <id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632</id> - <updated>2008-11-04T06:00:25+00:00</updated> + <updated>2008-11-10T00:00:28+00:00</updated> </source> </entry> @@ -540,24 +560,4 @@ </source> </entry> - <entry> - <title type="html">Malaga Manifesto 2008-10-22</title> - <link href="http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2008/10/malaga-manifesto-2008-10-22.html"/> - <id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649039904546083564.post-3023422284292050806</id> - <updated>2008-10-22T18:48:05+00:00</updated> - <content type="html"><strong>Malaga Manifesto<br /><br />Question</strong>:<br />How do we form communities, participatory groups, that are self-sustainable? For in the last two days we've heard many discussions about how this or that gov't is supporting Libre Software. But we have heard no solutions to this, besides making the source available. That seems to me just another way of looking to the market for solutions. And I do not think that works. <br />So what I would like to propose here is the draft of a manifesto on the formation of sustainable participatory communities. I use the term &#x201c;participatory&#x201d; because FOSS is specific to software, but we all know, at least we all want to believe that libre software communities are but one instance.<br />The principles:<br />&#x2022; <strong>Do today what can be done tomorrow and the day after, or planning for the future in every act.</strong> This means that it's indefensible to pollute your local environment (or even your neighbour's) because that kills the future, yours and his.<br />&#x2022; <strong>Do things in the consciousness of others (con la conscienca de los otros).</strong> This means that you have to engage others in what you do. The future is like another country, and it could be near or far. We wont' last forever, Kurzweill or not; and what we do, if we want to engage others, and I think we do, as the age of gross egotism is dead, I hope, must be done in ways that enable others to sit at the same table as you. Call this the commensal principle, and it is the hope of the commons.<br /><blockquote>(Forget about forgetting the past or declaring history bunk; capitalism's short memory is our long life. Razing the past to build the future never works because the past remembers us even as we try to forget it in the fiction of the present and future.)<br /></blockquote>&#x2022; <strong>Do what you can now, and don't wait for some sign, revolution, spectacle of catastrophe.</strong> We have the tools to act, we have the sense, and we all know what has to be done. But I at least don't want local communities of fascists acting on the spur of their own distorted beliefs. I want communities of freedom, based on the principles of individual freedom and responsibility and acting in conjunction with others. <br />Freedom and responsibility, communities of freedom: Freedom without responsibility is a version of what the Victorians would derisively call the American "Do as you like" ideology. Freedom without responsibility is the death of community, and we can see some fine examples of it today, in the blood money flooding Wall Street and now Main Street. (What me worry? ideology, is another way of putting it, if flippant.)<br />The inverse, responsibility without freedom doesn't work, it's fascism. We've had enough of that and it always keeps nations, people down, benighted. Consider it community without possibility, an impossible community. The goal is rather liberty and community, community and liberty, not one or the other, and one not privileged over the other. (If the American revolution brought liberty without the claim of community--the US got federation, instead--the French revolution introduced the necessity of community as a crucial element of freedom. But as history has shown, it's a balance, a negotiation, a narrative. And elements of the triad gt lost. This is why I believe we need to renew that social contract, revive the egalit&#x00e9;, fraternit&#x00e9;, libert&#x00e9; as goals and practices.)<br />So, I assert--the need for developing communities of liberty for establishing sustainable systems of production. This is true whether we speak of energy, food, or Foss, and in practice, each instance will have its own archive of examples, contexts, but one logical effect would be to respect local markets, wisdom and to connect disparate communities, for as the M&#x00e1;laga conference shows, the world is connected<br /><br /></content> - <author> - <name>oulipo</name> - <email>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</email> - <uri>http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/</uri> - </author> - <source> - <title type="html">ooo-speak</title> - <subtitle type="html">Mostly on OpenOffice.org, FOSS, and everything else.</subtitle> - <link rel="self" href="http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default"/> - <id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649039904546083564</id> - <updated>2008-11-07T00:00:25+00:00</updated> - </source> - </entry> - </feed> File [changed]: index.html Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/index.html?r1=1.1152&r2=1.1153 Delta lines: +16 -15 --------------------- --- index.html 2008-11-09 18:00:33+0000 1.1152 +++ index.html 2008-11-10 00:00:39+0000 1.1153 @@ -37,8 +37,23 @@ <a href="rss20.xml"><img src="rss2.gif" alt="Link to RSS 2 feed" /></a> </div> -<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: November 09, 2008 06:00 PM GMT</em></p> +<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: November 10, 2008 12:00 AM GMT</em></p> +<h2>November 09, 2008</h2> +<h3> +<a href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/"; title="OpenOffice.org Marketing Blog"> +OOo Marketeers</a> : +<a href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/11/openofficeorg-conference-2008.html";> +OpenOffice.org Conference 2008 â everything is different</a> +</h3> +<p> +Attending <a href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/";>the 6th OpenOffice.org conference</a> is a special experience. This when I compare it with the three previous conferences I attended.<br /><br />For the first time in the history of the open source project, the conference is held in a non European country. In this way, the project shows its world wide strength. Emphasize this strength, is something that can be trusted to be done the Chinese speakers. At least 8 representatives from (semi-) governmental organizations, IT-industry and education did so: "open source is important for the own industry and people". OpenOffice.org is closed into the hearts and the project fully supported.<br /><br />Also, the use of open source software helps fighting software piracy. This was underlined by Prof. Ni Guangnan from one of the universities. The light tintling is his eyes revealed that he understands quite well, that this is not the kind of 'fighting' Microsoft has in mind...<br /><br />As for my personal opinion, also has to be mentioned that every Chinese speaker emphasized the importance of protecting the environment and the desired role of ICT in this field. More directly related to the OpenOffice.org project, was the speech from Hu Caiyong, general manager from Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Technology Co. Ltd., short: Redflag 2000. Their product RedOffice knows a large adoption by national, regional and locale governments. With Redflag 2000 more than two hundred people work on RedOffice, which is based on OpenOffice.org. Last year Redflag 2000 and Sun Microsystems, the founder of the OpenOffice.org-project, signed an arrangement and from then on the cooperation intensifies, and people from Beijing and Hamburg work more together on areas as quality (QA) and development.<br /><br />But let me stick to China for another moment. Beijing also is the location for the few hundred people counting IBM team that works on Symphony, the OpenOffice.org 1-based product in the Lotus-family. Symphony's version 1.2 has just been released and Michael Karasick, manager of the Symphony team, showed their road-map for integration of their work in the main OpenOffice.org 3 code line.<br /><br />So there I sit, as representative of a small European country, looking at the impressive Asian presence. Louis Suarez-Potts, OOo-community manager, added a bit with the example of a Indian region, of which he found out recently that more than a million children at primary schools use OpenOffice.org. It is been distributed there on CD-ROM by the government. It is available in many Indian languages. The Malaysian government, to mentions something else, saved 9.5 million dollar in the last year, just by making the choice for the right office suite.<br />Here in the Netherlands all and everyone seems addicted to Microsoft products. Success stories do exist, but only after years the migrations really are starting up. Market in The Netherlands is much tougher that in Asia.<br /><br />The contribution of Michael Bemmer, general manager at Sun Hamburg, however gave me more faith. The Sun developers work with a clear vision on the future of office productivity. Apart from the already existing possibilities for collaboration and document management, integrating with OpenOffice.org, work is continuing for easier integration with much more software, will the suite be modularised, are tool for web-document integration on their way, is the function for Extensions enhanced. etcetera. And this all for a program that already enables seamless working amongst different platforms, which can be extended by using a variety of scripting and programming languages, supports more that a hundred languages for end users, has more than 8 years history, delivers a quality release 4 times a year, ⦠And that all apart from the independent document standard ODF, which is widely supported.<br /><br />After the applause for the opening ceremony, I merge in the crowd counting more than four hundred attendants. That also is more than last years. And I meet friends and people I know from France, Italy, Spain, Germany, America, Japan, China, Indonesia, Sweden, ⦠With them, I start coping the program, which with four parallel sessions gives many hard choices to make. And without any doubt, our Chines hosts will make sure that we get everything else we need, and more.<br /><br />Now it is Sunday evening. And looking back, I can give not only credits to them, but also to the those who presented at the conference. People from Sun, RedFlag 2000, Novell, IBM, people from the various countries and projects, and independent developers working with the people from Sun, all did a tremendous job with interesting talks, that much can be learnt from. It was good to see the quality with which some Chinese speakers were able to do their presentation. Not all of them of course â it is obvious that English is quite difficult for some. On the other hand, in my opinion also the presenting skills from some of our western European friends can easily be improved; something to keep in mind. Finally, after three days of conferencing, a wonderful closing diner, with great artists to entertain us, there were two days of tours. Seen lots of beautiful things. Of course a bit in a rush, so not surprisingly our guide concluded that we should come again, and than not for work but on only for enjoying the country and the people. Which is a good suggestion. People are friendly, youth is sparking, much to enjoy.<br /><br />Thanks to all who made this happen and many greeting from our Chinese friends,<br />Cor<br /><br />Cor Nouws is active member of the <a href="http://nl.openoffice.org";>Dutch/Flanders OpenOffice.org-community</a> and also serves on the OpenOffice.org-Community Council. He is founder and director of a Dutch supplier of training/consultancy for OpenOffice.org.</p> +<p> +<em><a href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/11/openofficeorg-conference-2008.html";>by floeff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at November 09, 2008 07:23 PM GMT</a></em> +</p> +<br /> +<hr /> +<br /> <h2>November 08, 2008</h2> <h3> <a href="http://www.mealldubh.org"; title="Meall Dubh » OpenOffice.org"> @@ -491,20 +506,6 @@ <br /> <hr /> <br /> -<h3> -<a href="http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/"; title="ooo-speak"> -Louis Suarez-Potts</a> : -<a href="http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2008/10/malaga-manifesto-2008-10-22.html";> -Malaga Manifesto 2008-10-22</a> -</h3> -<p> -<strong>Malaga Manifesto<br /><br />Question</strong>:<br />How do we form communities, participatory groups, that are self-sustainable? For in the last two days we've heard many discussions about how this or that gov't is supporting Libre Software. But we have heard no solutions to this, besides making the source available. That seems to me just another way of looking to the market for solutions. And I do not think that works. <br />So what I would like to propose here is the draft of a manifesto on the formation of sustainable participatory communities. I use the term “participatory” because FOSS is specific to software, but we all know, at least we all want to believe that libre software communities are but one instance.<br />The principles:<br />• <strong>Do today what can be done tomorrow and the day after, or planning for the future in every act.</strong> This means that it's indefensible to pollute your local environment (or even your neighbour's) because that kills the future, yours and his.<br />• <strong>Do things in the consciousness of others (con la conscienca de los otros).</strong> This means that you have to engage others in what you do. The future is like another country, and it could be near or far. We wont' last forever, Kurzweill or not; and what we do, if we want to engage others, and I think we do, as the age of gross egotism is dead, I hope, must be done in ways that enable others to sit at the same table as you. Call this the commensal principle, and it is the hope of the commons.<br /><blockquote>(Forget about forgetting the past or declaring history bunk; capitalism's short memory is our long life. Razing the past to build the future never works because the past remembers us even as we try to forget it in the fiction of the present and future.)<br /></blockquote>• <strong>Do what you can now, and don't wait for some sign, revolution, spectacle of catastrophe.</strong> We have the tools to act, we have the sense, and we all know what has to be done. But I at least don't want local communities of fascists acting on the spur of their own distorted beliefs. I want communities of freedom, based on the principles of individual freedom and responsibility and acting in conjunction with others. <br />Freedom and responsibility, communities of freedom: Freedom without responsibility is a version of what the Victorians would derisively call the American "Do as you like" ideology. Freedom without responsibility is the death of community, and we can see some fine examples of it today, in the blood money flooding Wall Street and now Main Street. (What me worry? ideology, is another way of putting it, if flippant.)<br />The inverse, responsibility without freedom doesn't work, it's fascism. We've had enough of that and it always keeps nations, people down, benighted. Consider it community without possibility, an impossible community. The goal is rather liberty and community, community and liberty, not one or the other, and one not privileged over the other. (If the American revolution brought liberty without the claim of community--the US got federation, instead--the French revolution introduced the necessity of community as a crucial element of freedom. But as history has shown, it's a balance, a negotiation, a narrative. And elements of the triad gt lost. This is why I believe we need to renew that social contract, revive the egalité, fraternité, liberté as goals and practices.)<br />So, I assert--the need for developing communities of liberty for establishing sustainable systems of production. This is true whether we speak of energy, food, or Foss, and in practice, each instance will have its own archive of examples, contexts, but one logical effect would be to respect local markets, wisdom and to connect disparate communities, for as the Málaga conference shows, the world is connected<br /><br /></p> -<p> -<em><a href="http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2008/10/malaga-manifesto-2008-10-22.html";>by oulipo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at October 22, 2008 06:48 PM BST</a></em> -</p> -<br /> -<hr /> -<br /> <a id="disclaimer" name="disclaimer"></a> <p><em>Disclaimer: all views expressed on this page are those of the individual contributors, and may not reflect the views of the File [changed]: opml.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/opml.xml?r1=1.1145&r2=1.1146 Delta lines: +1 -1 ------------------- --- opml.xml 2008-11-09 18:00:33+0000 1.1145 +++ opml.xml 2008-11-10 00:00:39+0000 1.1146 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ <opml version="1.1"> <head> <title>Marketing Planet</title> - <dateModified>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:00:32 +0000</dateModified> + <dateModified>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:00:38 +0000</dateModified> <ownerName>Marketing Project</ownerName> <ownerEmail>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</ownerEmail> </head> File [changed]: rss10.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/rss10.xml?r1=1.521&r2=1.522 Delta lines: +8 -8 ------------------- --- rss10.xml 2008-11-09 00:00:28+0000 1.521 +++ rss10.xml 2008-11-10 00:00:40+0000 1.522 @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@ <items> <rdf:Seq> + <rdf:li rdf:resource="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-750788243565343955" /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.mealldubh.org/?p=602"; /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=905"; /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=492"; /> @@ -32,11 +33,17 @@ <rdf:li rdf:resource="tag:google.com,2005:reader/item/035b8bbda8ea7970" /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-5810109651492029295" /> <rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=490"; /> - <rdf:li rdf:resource="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649039904546083564.post-3023422284292050806" /> </rdf:Seq> </items> </channel> +<item rdf:about="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-750788243565343955"> + <title>OOo Marketeers: OpenOffice.org Conference 2008 â everything is different</title> + <link>http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/11/openofficeorg-conference-2008.html</link> + <content:encoded>Attending <a href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/">the 6th OpenOffice.org conference</a> is a special experience. This when I compare it with the three previous conferences I attended.<br /><br />For the first time in the history of the open source project, the conference is held in a non European country. In this way, the project shows its world wide strength. Emphasize this strength, is something that can be trusted to be done the Chinese speakers. At least 8 representatives from (semi-) governmental organizations, IT-industry and education did so: "open source is important for the own industry and people". OpenOffice.org is closed into the hearts and the project fully supported.<br /><br />Also, the use of open source software helps fighting software piracy. This was underlined by Prof. Ni Guangnan from one of the universities. The light tintling is his eyes revealed that he understands quite well, that this is not the kind of 'fighting' Microsoft has in mind...<br /><br />As for my personal opinion, also has to be mentioned that every Chinese speaker emphasized the importance of protecting the environment and the desired role of ICT in this field. More directly related to the OpenOffice.org project, was the speech from Hu Caiyong, general manager from Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Technology Co. Ltd., short: Redflag 2000. Their product RedOffice knows a large adoption by national, regional and locale governments. With Redflag 2000 more than two hundred people work on RedOffice, which is based on OpenOffice.org. Last year Redflag 2000 and Sun Microsystems, the founder of the OpenOffice.org-project, signed an arrangement and from then on the cooperation intensifies, and people from Beijing and Hamburg work more together on areas as quality (QA) and development.<br /><br />But let me stick to China for another moment. Beijing also is the location for the few hundred people counting IBM team that works on Symphony, the OpenOffice.org 1-based product in the Lotus-family. Symphony's version 1.2 has just been released and Michael Karasick, manager of the Symphony team, showed their road-map for integration of their work in the main OpenOffice.org 3 code line.<br /><br />So there I sit, as representative of a small European country, looking at the impressive Asian presence. Louis Suarez-Potts, OOo-community manager, added a bit with the example of a Indian region, of which he found out recently that more than a million children at primary schools use OpenOffice.org. It is been distributed there on CD-ROM by the government. It is available in many Indian languages. The Malaysian government, to mentions something else, saved 9.5 million dollar in the last year, just by making the choice for the right office suite.<br />Here in the Netherlands all and everyone seems addicted to Microsoft products. Success stories do exist, but only after years the migrations really are starting up. Market in The Netherlands is much tougher that in Asia.<br /><br />The contribution of Michael Bemmer, general manager at Sun Hamburg, however gave me more faith. The Sun developers work with a clear vision on the future of office productivity. Apart from the already existing possibilities for collaboration and document management, integrating with OpenOffice.org, work is continuing for easier integration with much more software, will the suite be modularised, are tool for web-document integration on their way, is the function for Extensions enhanced. etcetera. And this all for a program that already enables seamless working amongst different platforms, which can be extended by using a variety of scripting and programming languages, supports more that a hundred languages for end users, has more than 8 years history, delivers a quality release 4 times a year, ⦠And that all apart from the independent document standard ODF, which is widely supported.<br /><br />After the applause for the opening ceremony, I merge in the crowd counting more than four hundred attendants. That also is more than last years. And I meet friends and people I know from France, Italy, Spain, Germany, America, Japan, China, Indonesia, Sweden, ⦠With them, I start coping the program, which with four parallel sessions gives many hard choices to make. And without any doubt, our Chines hosts will make sure that we get everything else we need, and more.<br /><br />Now it is Sunday evening. And looking back, I can give not only credits to them, but also to the those who presented at the conference. People from Sun, RedFlag 2000, Novell, IBM, people from the various countries and projects, and independent developers working with the people from Sun, all did a tremendous job with interesting talks, that much can be learnt from. It was good to see the quality with which some Chinese speakers were able to do their presentation. Not all of them of course â it is obvious that English is quite difficult for some. On the other hand, in my opinion also the presenting skills from some of our western European friends can easily be improved; something to keep in mind. Finally, after three days of conferencing, a wonderful closing diner, with great artists to entertain us, there were two days of tours. Seen lots of beautiful things. Of course a bit in a rush, so not surprisingly our guide concluded that we should come again, and than not for work but on only for enjoying the country and the people. Which is a good suggestion. People are friendly, youth is sparking, much to enjoy.<br /><br />Thanks to all who made this happen and many greeting from our Chinese friends,<br />Cor<br /><br />Cor Nouws is active member of the <a href="http://nl.openoffice.org">Dutch/Flanders OpenOffice.org-community</a> and also serves on the OpenOffice.org-Community Council. He is founder and director of a Dutch supplier of training/consultancy for OpenOffice.org.</content:encoded> + <dc:date>2008-11-09T19:23:02+00:00</dc:date> + <dc:creator>floeff</dc:creator> +</item> <item rdf:about="http://www.mealldubh.org/?p=602";> <title>John McCreesh: Lies, damn lies, and Bouncer statistics</title> <link>http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/11/08/lies-damn-lies-and-bouncer-statistics/</link> @@ -324,12 +331,5 @@ </div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/428898841" height="1" width="1" /></content:encoded> <dc:date>2008-10-22T20:02:25+00:00</dc:date> </item> -<item rdf:about="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649039904546083564.post-3023422284292050806"> - <title>Louis Suarez-Potts: Malaga Manifesto 2008-10-22</title> - <link>http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2008/10/malaga-manifesto-2008-10-22.html</link> - <content:encoded><strong>Malaga Manifesto<br /><br />Question</strong>:<br />How do we form communities, participatory groups, that are self-sustainable? For in the last two days we've heard many discussions about how this or that gov't is supporting Libre Software. But we have heard no solutions to this, besides making the source available. That seems to me just another way of looking to the market for solutions. And I do not think that works. <br />So what I would like to propose here is the draft of a manifesto on the formation of sustainable participatory communities. I use the term &#x201c;participatory&#x201d; because FOSS is specific to software, but we all know, at least we all want to believe that libre software communities are but one instance.<br />The principles:<br />&#x2022; <strong>Do today what can be done tomorrow and the day after, or planning for the future in every act.</strong> This means that it's indefensible to pollute your local environment (or even your neighbour's) because that kills the future, yours and his.<br />&#x2022; <strong>Do things in the consciousness of others (con la conscienca de los otros).</strong> This means that you have to engage others in what you do. The future is like another country, and it could be near or far. We wont' last forever, Kurzweill or not; and what we do, if we want to engage others, and I think we do, as the age of gross egotism is dead, I hope, must be done in ways that enable others to sit at the same table as you. Call this the commensal principle, and it is the hope of the commons.<br /><blockquote>(Forget about forgetting the past or declaring history bunk; capitalism's short memory is our long life. Razing the past to build the future never works because the past remembers us even as we try to forget it in the fiction of the present and future.)<br /></blockquote>&#x2022; <strong>Do what you can now, and don't wait for some sign, revolution, spectacle of catastrophe.</strong> We have the tools to act, we have the sense, and we all know what has to be done. But I at least don't want local communities of fascists acting on the spur of their own distorted beliefs. I want communities of freedom, based on the principles of individual freedom and responsibility and acting in conjunction with others. <br />Freedom and responsibility, communities of freedom: Freedom without responsibility is a version of what the Victorians would derisively call the American "Do as you like" ideology. Freedom without responsibility is the death of community, and we can see some fine examples of it today, in the blood money flooding Wall Street and now Main Street. (What me worry? ideology, is another way of putting it, if flippant.)<br />The inverse, responsibility without freedom doesn't work, it's fascism. We've had enough of that and it always keeps nations, people down, benighted. Consider it community without possibility, an impossible community. The goal is rather liberty and community, community and liberty, not one or the other, and one not privileged over the other. (If the American revolution brought liberty without the claim of community--the US got federation, instead--the French revolution introduced the necessity of community as a crucial element of freedom. But as history has shown, it's a balance, a negotiation, a narrative. And elements of the triad gt lost. This is why I believe we need to renew that social contract, revive the egalit&#x00e9;, fraternit&#x00e9;, libert&#x00e9; as goals and practices.)<br />So, I assert--the need for developing communities of liberty for establishing sustainable systems of production. This is true whether we speak of energy, food, or Foss, and in practice, each instance will have its own archive of examples, contexts, but one logical effect would be to respect local markets, wisdom and to connect disparate communities, for as the M&#x00e1;laga conference shows, the world is connected<br /><br /></content:encoded> - <dc:date>2008-10-22T18:48:05+00:00</dc:date> - <dc:creator>oulipo</dc:creator> -</item> </rdf:RDF> File [changed]: rss20.xml Url: http://marketing.openoffice.org/source/browse/marketing/www/planet/rss20.xml?r1=1.521&r2=1.522 Delta lines: +8 -8 ------------------- --- rss20.xml 2008-11-09 00:00:28+0000 1.521 +++ rss20.xml 2008-11-10 00:00:40+0000 1.522 @@ -8,6 +8,14 @@ <description>Marketing Planet - http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/</description> <item> + <title>OOo Marketeers: OpenOffice.org Conference 2008 â everything is different</title> + <guid>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-750788243565343955</guid> + <link>http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2008/11/openofficeorg-conference-2008.html</link> + <description>Attending <a href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/">the 6th OpenOffice.org conference</a> is a special experience. This when I compare it with the three previous conferences I attended.<br /><br />For the first time in the history of the open source project, the conference is held in a non European country. In this way, the project shows its world wide strength. Emphasize this strength, is something that can be trusted to be done the Chinese speakers. At least 8 representatives from (semi-) governmental organizations, IT-industry and education did so: "open source is important for the own industry and people". OpenOffice.org is closed into the hearts and the project fully supported.<br /><br />Also, the use of open source software helps fighting software piracy. This was underlined by Prof. Ni Guangnan from one of the universities. The light tintling is his eyes revealed that he understands quite well, that this is not the kind of 'fighting' Microsoft has in mind...<br /><br />As for my personal opinion, also has to be mentioned that every Chinese speaker emphasized the importance of protecting the environment and the desired role of ICT in this field. More directly related to the OpenOffice.org project, was the speech from Hu Caiyong, general manager from Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Technology Co. Ltd., short: Redflag 2000. Their product RedOffice knows a large adoption by national, regional and locale governments. With Redflag 2000 more than two hundred people work on RedOffice, which is based on OpenOffice.org. Last year Redflag 2000 and Sun Microsystems, the founder of the OpenOffice.org-project, signed an arrangement and from then on the cooperation intensifies, and people from Beijing and Hamburg work more together on areas as quality (QA) and development.<br /><br />But let me stick to China for another moment. Beijing also is the location for the few hundred people counting IBM team that works on Symphony, the OpenOffice.org 1-based product in the Lotus-family. Symphony's version 1.2 has just been released and Michael Karasick, manager of the Symphony team, showed their road-map for integration of their work in the main OpenOffice.org 3 code line.<br /><br />So there I sit, as representative of a small European country, looking at the impressive Asian presence. Louis Suarez-Potts, OOo-community manager, added a bit with the example of a Indian region, of which he found out recently that more than a million children at primary schools use OpenOffice.org. It is been distributed there on CD-ROM by the government. It is available in many Indian languages. The Malaysian government, to mentions something else, saved 9.5 million dollar in the last year, just by making the choice for the right office suite.<br />Here in the Netherlands all and everyone seems addicted to Microsoft products. Success stories do exist, but only after years the migrations really are starting up. Market in The Netherlands is much tougher that in Asia.<br /><br />The contribution of Michael Bemmer, general manager at Sun Hamburg, however gave me more faith. The Sun developers work with a clear vision on the future of office productivity. Apart from the already existing possibilities for collaboration and document management, integrating with OpenOffice.org, work is continuing for easier integration with much more software, will the suite be modularised, are tool for web-document integration on their way, is the function for Extensions enhanced. etcetera. And this all for a program that already enables seamless working amongst different platforms, which can be extended by using a variety of scripting and programming languages, supports more that a hundred languages for end users, has more than 8 years history, delivers a quality release 4 times a year, ⦠And that all apart from the independent document standard ODF, which is widely supported.<br /><br />After the applause for the opening ceremony, I merge in the crowd counting more than four hundred attendants. That also is more than last years. And I meet friends and people I know from France, Italy, Spain, Germany, America, Japan, China, Indonesia, Sweden, ⦠With them, I start coping the program, which with four parallel sessions gives many hard choices to make. And without any doubt, our Chines hosts will make sure that we get everything else we need, and more.<br /><br />Now it is Sunday evening. And looking back, I can give not only credits to them, but also to the those who presented at the conference. People from Sun, RedFlag 2000, Novell, IBM, people from the various countries and projects, and independent developers working with the people from Sun, all did a tremendous job with interesting talks, that much can be learnt from. It was good to see the quality with which some Chinese speakers were able to do their presentation. Not all of them of course â it is obvious that English is quite difficult for some. On the other hand, in my opinion also the presenting skills from some of our western European friends can easily be improved; something to keep in mind. Finally, after three days of conferencing, a wonderful closing diner, with great artists to entertain us, there were two days of tours. Seen lots of beautiful things. Of course a bit in a rush, so not surprisingly our guide concluded that we should come again, and than not for work but on only for enjoying the country and the people. Which is a good suggestion. People are friendly, youth is sparking, much to enjoy.<br /><br />Thanks to all who made this happen and many greeting from our Chinese friends,<br />Cor<br /><br />Cor Nouws is active member of the <a href="http://nl.openoffice.org">Dutch/Flanders OpenOffice.org-community</a> and also serves on the OpenOffice.org-Community Council. He is founder and director of a Dutch supplier of training/consultancy for OpenOffice.org.</description> + <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:23:02 +0000</pubDate> + <author>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (floeff)</author> +</item> +<item> <title>John McCreesh: Lies, damn lies, and Bouncer statistics</title> <guid>http://www.mealldubh.org/?p=602</guid> <link>http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/11/08/lies-damn-lies-and-bouncer-statistics/</link> @@ -312,14 +320,6 @@ </div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/428898841" height="1" width="1" /></description> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate> </item> -<item> - <title>Louis Suarez-Potts: Malaga Manifesto 2008-10-22</title> - <guid>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4649039904546083564.post-3023422284292050806</guid> - <link>http://ooo-speak.blogspot.com/2008/10/malaga-manifesto-2008-10-22.html</link> - <description><strong>Malaga Manifesto<br /><br />Question</strong>:<br />How do we form communities, participatory groups, that are self-sustainable? For in the last two days we've heard many discussions about how this or that gov't is supporting Libre Software. But we have heard no solutions to this, besides making the source available. That seems to me just another way of looking to the market for solutions. And I do not think that works. <br />So what I would like to propose here is the draft of a manifesto on the formation of sustainable participatory communities. I use the term &#x201c;participatory&#x201d; because FOSS is specific to software, but we all know, at least we all want to believe that libre software communities are but one instance.<br />The principles:<br />&#x2022; <strong>Do today what can be done tomorrow and the day after, or planning for the future in every act.</strong> This means that it's indefensible to pollute your local environment (or even your neighbour's) because that kills the future, yours and his.<br />&#x2022; <strong>Do things in the consciousness of others (con la conscienca de los otros).</strong> This means that you have to engage others in what you do. The future is like another country, and it could be near or far. We wont' last forever, Kurzweill or not; and what we do, if we want to engage others, and I think we do, as the age of gross egotism is dead, I hope, must be done in ways that enable others to sit at the same table as you. Call this the commensal principle, and it is the hope of the commons.<br /><blockquote>(Forget about forgetting the past or declaring history bunk; capitalism's short memory is our long life. Razing the past to build the future never works because the past remembers us even as we try to forget it in the fiction of the present and future.)<br /></blockquote>&#x2022; <strong>Do what you can now, and don't wait for some sign, revolution, spectacle of catastrophe.</strong> We have the tools to act, we have the sense, and we all know what has to be done. But I at least don't want local communities of fascists acting on the spur of their own distorted beliefs. I want communities of freedom, based on the principles of individual freedom and responsibility and acting in conjunction with others. <br />Freedom and responsibility, communities of freedom: Freedom without responsibility is a version of what the Victorians would derisively call the American "Do as you like" ideology. Freedom without responsibility is the death of community, and we can see some fine examples of it today, in the blood money flooding Wall Street and now Main Street. (What me worry? ideology, is another way of putting it, if flippant.)<br />The inverse, responsibility without freedom doesn't work, it's fascism. We've had enough of that and it always keeps nations, people down, benighted. Consider it community without possibility, an impossible community. The goal is rather liberty and community, community and liberty, not one or the other, and one not privileged over the other. (If the American revolution brought liberty without the claim of community--the US got federation, instead--the French revolution introduced the necessity of community as a crucial element of freedom. But as history has shown, it's a balance, a negotiation, a narrative. And elements of the triad gt lost. This is why I believe we need to renew that social contract, revive the egalit&#x00e9;, fraternit&#x00e9;, libert&#x00e9; as goals and practices.)<br />So, I assert--the need for developing communities of liberty for establishing sustainable systems of production. This is true whether we speak of energy, food, or Foss, and in practice, each instance will have its own archive of examples, contexts, but one logical effect would be to respect local markets, wisdom and to connect disparate communities, for as the M&#x00e1;laga conference shows, the world is connected<br /><br /></description> - <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:48:05 +0000</pubDate> - <author>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (oulipo)</author> -</item> </channel> </rss> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
