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+               <title type="html">About Beijing, OOo, ODF and 
interoperability</title>
+               <link 
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/463254723/"/>
+               <id>http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=493</id>
+               <updated>2008-11-23T23:00:14+00:00</updated>
+               <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, I 
haven&amp;#8217;t had enough time to elucubrate about what I&amp;#8217;ve seen 
and heard in Beijing. Therefore, this is going to be a random collection of 
thoughts. Maybe, in the future I will have the time to add some 
comments.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;#8217;s start with a big thank to the organization. Kudos to 
everyone. The closing ceremony with the authentic emotion of RedFlag 
2000&amp;#8217;s managing director is something that will remain in my heart 
forever.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The sightseeings were also unforgettable. Pictures of everything are 
&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://picasaweb.google.com/italo.vignoli&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;A couple of remarks about the opening ceremony: four hours without a 
(coffee) break have been difficult to manage, especially a few days after a 
long flight and several hours before the usual time zone, and the slides in 
Chinese about UOF could have been translated and projected in English on the 
second screen (which was there). They were extremely interesting, but we have 
lost most of them because of the translation.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;OpenOffice.org is a mature project, which over the years has scaled 
to a level which was probably difficult to imagine back in 2001. The real 
strength of the project is the community of volunteers, although we 
can&amp;#8217;t forget the support of companies such as Sun - the founder of 
the project - plus IBM, Novell and RedFlag 2000.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Without the community, though, OpenOffice.org would not be where it 
is today, because Sun has still to identify a real strategy to monetize the 
effort and the investment, Novell is stuck in between the development effort 
and the agreement with Microsoft, RedFlag 2000 is still too young in the 
community to be a strategic asset, and IBM is taking a lot more than what is 
giving (and will continue to do so in the future, IMHO).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The community is going to be key in the process towards 
interoperability, although the companies would really like to keep it off the 
table. The community wasn&amp;#8217;t invited by Microsoft at their 
interoperability labs, the community wasn&amp;#8217;t invited by IBM at the 
Beijing interoperability table (I&amp;#8217;ve assisted for a couple of 
hours).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The community is key to reach the users (the fact that OpenOffice.org 
is stronger in France, Germany and Italy, where there&amp;#8217;s a stronger 
and better organized community, it&amp;#8217;s not a coincidence, and should be 
taken in due consideration by the companies), and the users are key for the 
success of a file format (users are individuals, enterprises and governments, 
both local and national).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Today, both IBM and Microsoft sit at the ODF interoperability table, 
together with several individuals and organizations. I strongly support the 
idea that Associazione PLIO should sit at the same table, in order to 
contribute to the development of the standard.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Technorati Tags Start --&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Technorati Tags:&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;a href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/beijing&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;beijing&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/odf&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;odf&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/ooo%20conference&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;ooo conference&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/ooxml&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;ooxml&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/openoffice&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;openoffice&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Technorati Tags End --&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+
+
+&lt;p&gt;Related posts:&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/02/beijing-im-coming/&quot; 
rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Beijing, I&amp;#8217;m 
coming&quot;&gt;Beijing, I&amp;#8217;m 
coming&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/02/22/open-letter-to-microsoft/&quot;
 rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Open Letter to 
Microsoft&quot;&gt;Open Letter to Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/05/beijing-day-one-and-before/&quot;
 rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Beijing, day one (and 
before)&quot;&gt;Beijing, day one (and 
before)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div 
class=&quot;feedflare&quot;&gt;
+&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=W2U4N&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=W2U4N&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=g5h9N&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=g5h9N&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=bTNjn&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=bTNjn&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img 
src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/463254723&quot; 
height=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;</content>
+               <author>
+                       <name>Italo Vignoli</name>
+                       <uri>http://www.italovignoli.org</uri>
+               </author>
+               <source>
+                       <title type="html">Open Opinions</title>
+                       <subtitle type="html">Open Opinions about Open Source 
Software</subtitle>
+                       <link rel="self" 
href="http://www.italovignoli.org/?feed=rss2"/>
+                       <id>http://www.italovignoli.org/?feed=rss2</id>
+                       <updated>2008-11-24T00:00:20+00:00</updated>
+               </source>
+       </entry>
+
+       <entry xml:lang="en">
                <title type="html">Good news for 330 million people</title>
                <link 
href="http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/11/23/good-news-for-330-million-people/"/>
                <id>http://www.mealldubh.org/?p=607</id>
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                        <title type="html">jpmcc's shared items in Google 
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-                       <updated>2008-11-23T18:00:20+00:00</updated>
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<id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id>
-                       <updated>2008-11-23T18:00:20+00:00</updated>
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@@ -380,7 +417,7 @@
                        <subtitle type="html">The Magic of Open 
Source</subtitle>
                        <link rel="self" 
href="http://www.theopensourcerer.com/tag/openofficeorg/feed"/>
                        
<id>http://www.theopensourcerer.com/tag/openofficeorg/feed</id>
-                       <updated>2008-11-23T18:00:31+00:00</updated>
+                       <updated>2008-11-24T00:00:23+00:00</updated>
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@@ -453,25 +490,4 @@
                </source>
        </entry>
 
-       <entry xml:lang="en">
-               <title type="html">ODF Templates from IBM</title>
-               <link href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/905"/>
-               <id>http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=905</id>
-               <updated>2008-11-06T15:16:55+00:00</updated>
-               <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;IBM&amp;#8217;s &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home&quot;&gt;Lotus
 Symphony&lt;/a&gt; was developed based on OpenOffice.org&amp;#8217;s codebase 
and uses the same ODF (OpenDocument Format) as its standard file 
format.&lt;/p&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;To help users create attractive documents, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/gallery.nsf/GalleryByDate?OpenView&amp;Count=10&quot;&gt;IBM
 has released a number of ODF file templates&lt;/a&gt; for things like 
schedules, invoices, budgets, memos, letters and presentations. While promoted 
on Symphony&amp;#8217;s website, these standard ODF files can be used in any 
compatible software suite, including &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.openoffice.org/&quot;&gt;OpenOffice.org&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.neooffice.org/&quot;&gt;NeoOffice&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://koffice.org/&quot;&gt;KOffice&lt;/a&gt; and many 
others.&lt;/p&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;Download and enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</content>
-               <author>
-                       <name>Benjamin Horst</name>
-                       <uri>http://www.solidoffice.com</uri>
-               </author>
-               <source>
-                       <title type="html">SolidOffice » OpenOffice.org</title>
-                       <subtitle type="html">Home of The Tiny Guide to 
OpenOffice.org</subtitle>
-                       <link rel="self" 
href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed"/>
-                       
<id>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/category/openofficeorg/feed</id>
-                       <updated>2008-11-20T18:00:23+00:00</updated>
-               </source>
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 </div>
 
-<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a 
href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: November 23, 2008 06:00 
PM GMT</em></p>
+<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a 
href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: November 24, 2008 12:00 
AM GMT</em></p>
 
 <h2>November 23, 2008</h2>
 <h3>
+<a href="http://www.italovignoli.org"; title="Open Opinions">
+Italo Vignoli</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
+<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/463254723/";>
+About Beijing, OOo, ODF and interoperability</a>
+</h3>
+<p>
+<p>Unfortunately, I haven&#8217;t had enough time to elucubrate about what 
I&#8217;ve seen and heard in Beijing. Therefore, this is going to be a random 
collection of thoughts. Maybe, in the future I will have the time to add some 
comments.</p>
+<p>Let&#8217;s start with a big thank to the organization. Kudos to everyone. 
The closing ceremony with the authentic emotion of RedFlag 2000&#8217;s 
managing director is something that will remain in my heart forever.</p>
+<p>The sightseeings were also unforgettable. Pictures of everything are <a 
href="http://picasaweb.google.com/italo.vignoli";>here</a>.</p>
+<p>A couple of remarks about the opening ceremony: four hours without a 
(coffee) break have been difficult to manage, especially a few days after a 
long flight and several hours before the usual time zone, and the slides in 
Chinese about UOF could have been translated and projected in English on the 
second screen (which was there). They were extremely interesting, but we have 
lost most of them because of the translation.</p>
+<p>OpenOffice.org is a mature project, which over the years has scaled to a 
level which was probably difficult to imagine back in 2001. The real strength 
of the project is the community of volunteers, although we can&#8217;t forget 
the support of companies such as Sun - the founder of the project - plus IBM, 
Novell and RedFlag 2000.</p>
+<p>Without the community, though, OpenOffice.org would not be where it is 
today, because Sun has still to identify a real strategy to monetize the effort 
and the investment, Novell is stuck in between the development effort and the 
agreement with Microsoft, RedFlag 2000 is still too young in the community to 
be a strategic asset, and IBM is taking a lot more than what is giving (and 
will continue to do so in the future, IMHO).</p>
+<p>The community is going to be key in the process towards interoperability, 
although the companies would really like to keep it off the table. The 
community wasn&#8217;t invited by Microsoft at their interoperability labs, the 
community wasn&#8217;t invited by IBM at the Beijing interoperability table 
(I&#8217;ve assisted for a couple of hours).</p>
+<p>The community is key to reach the users (the fact that OpenOffice.org is 
stronger in France, Germany and Italy, where there&#8217;s a stronger and 
better organized community, it&#8217;s not a coincidence, and should be taken 
in due consideration by the companies), and the users are key for the success 
of a file format (users are individuals, enterprises and governments, both 
local and national).</p>
+<p>Today, both IBM and Microsoft sit at the ODF interoperability table, 
together with several individuals and organizations. I strongly support the 
idea that Associazione PLIO should sit at the same table, in order to 
contribute to the development of the standard.</p>
+<p><!-- Technorati Tags Start --></p>
+<p>Technorati Tags:<br />
+<a href="http://technorati.com/tag/beijing"; rel="tag">beijing</a>, <a 
href="http://technorati.com/tag/odf"; rel="tag">odf</a>, <a 
href="http://technorati.com/tag/ooo%20conference"; rel="tag">ooo conference</a>, 
<a href="http://technorati.com/tag/ooxml"; rel="tag">ooxml</a>, <a 
href="http://technorati.com/tag/openoffice"; rel="tag">openoffice</a>
+</p>
+<p><!-- Technorati Tags End --></p>
+
+
+<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a 
href="http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/02/beijing-im-coming/"; rel="bookmark" 
title="Permanent Link: Beijing, I&#8217;m coming">Beijing, I&#8217;m 
coming</a></li><li><a 
href="http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/02/22/open-letter-to-microsoft/"; 
rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Open Letter to Microsoft">Open Letter to 
Microsoft</a></li><li><a 
href="http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/05/beijing-day-one-and-before/"; 
rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Beijing, day one (and before)">Beijing, 
day one (and before)</a></li></ol></p><div class="feedflare">
+<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=W2U4N";><img 
src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=W2U4N"; border="0" /></a> <a 
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=g5h9N";><img 
src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=g5h9N"; border="0" /></a> <a 
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=bTNjn";><img 
src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=bTNjn"; border="0" /></a>
+</div><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/463254723"; 
height="1" width="1" /></p>
+<p>
+<em><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/463254723/";>by 
italovignoli at November 23, 2008 11:00 PM GMT</a></em>
+</p>
+<br />
+<hr />
+<br />
+<h3>
 <a href="http://www.mealldubh.org"; title="Meall Dubh » OpenOffice.org">
 John McCreesh</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
 <a 
href="http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/11/23/good-news-for-330-million-people/";>
@@ -400,23 +432,6 @@
 <br />
 <hr />
 <br />
-<h2>November 06, 2008</h2>
-<h3>
-<a href="http://www.solidoffice.com"; title="SolidOffice » OpenOffice.org">
-Benjamin Horst</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
-<a href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/905";>
-ODF Templates from IBM</a>
-</h3>
-<p>
-<p>IBM&#8217;s <a 
href="http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home";>Lotus 
Symphony</a> was developed based on OpenOffice.org&#8217;s codebase and uses 
the same ODF (OpenDocument Format) as its standard file format.</p>
-<p>To help users create attractive documents, <a 
href="http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/gallery.nsf/GalleryByDate?OpenView&Count=10";>IBM
 has released a number of ODF file templates</a> for things like schedules, 
invoices, budgets, memos, letters and presentations. While promoted on 
Symphony&#8217;s website, these standard ODF files can be used in any 
compatible software suite, including <a 
href="http://www.openoffice.org/";>OpenOffice.org</a>, <a 
href="http://www.neooffice.org/";>NeoOffice</a>, <a 
href="http://koffice.org/";>KOffice</a> and many others.</p>
-<p>Download and enjoy!</p></p>
-<p>
-<em><a href="http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/905";>by Benjamin Horst at 
November 06, 2008 03:16 PM GMT</a></em>
-</p>
-<br />
-<hr />
-<br />
 <a id="disclaimer" name="disclaimer"></a>
 <p><em>Disclaimer: all views expressed on this page are those 
 of the individual contributors, and may not reflect the views of the 

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+<item rdf:about="http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=493";>
+       <title>Italo Vignoli: About Beijing, OOo, ODF and 
interoperability</title>
+       <link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/463254723/</link>
+       <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, I haven&amp;#8217;t had enough 
time to elucubrate about what I&amp;#8217;ve seen and heard in Beijing. 
Therefore, this is going to be a random collection of thoughts. Maybe, in the 
future I will have the time to add some comments.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;#8217;s start with a big thank to the organization. Kudos to 
everyone. The closing ceremony with the authentic emotion of RedFlag 
2000&amp;#8217;s managing director is something that will remain in my heart 
forever.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The sightseeings were also unforgettable. Pictures of everything are 
&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://picasaweb.google.com/italo.vignoli&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;A couple of remarks about the opening ceremony: four hours without a 
(coffee) break have been difficult to manage, especially a few days after a 
long flight and several hours before the usual time zone, and the slides in 
Chinese about UOF could have been translated and projected in English on the 
second screen (which was there). They were extremely interesting, but we have 
lost most of them because of the translation.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;OpenOffice.org is a mature project, which over the years has scaled 
to a level which was probably difficult to imagine back in 2001. The real 
strength of the project is the community of volunteers, although we 
can&amp;#8217;t forget the support of companies such as Sun - the founder of 
the project - plus IBM, Novell and RedFlag 2000.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Without the community, though, OpenOffice.org would not be where it 
is today, because Sun has still to identify a real strategy to monetize the 
effort and the investment, Novell is stuck in between the development effort 
and the agreement with Microsoft, RedFlag 2000 is still too young in the 
community to be a strategic asset, and IBM is taking a lot more than what is 
giving (and will continue to do so in the future, IMHO).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The community is going to be key in the process towards 
interoperability, although the companies would really like to keep it off the 
table. The community wasn&amp;#8217;t invited by Microsoft at their 
interoperability labs, the community wasn&amp;#8217;t invited by IBM at the 
Beijing interoperability table (I&amp;#8217;ve assisted for a couple of 
hours).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The community is key to reach the users (the fact that OpenOffice.org 
is stronger in France, Germany and Italy, where there&amp;#8217;s a stronger 
and better organized community, it&amp;#8217;s not a coincidence, and should be 
taken in due consideration by the companies), and the users are key for the 
success of a file format (users are individuals, enterprises and governments, 
both local and national).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Today, both IBM and Microsoft sit at the ODF interoperability table, 
together with several individuals and organizations. I strongly support the 
idea that Associazione PLIO should sit at the same table, in order to 
contribute to the development of the standard.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Technorati Tags Start --&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Technorati Tags:&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;a href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/beijing&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;beijing&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/odf&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;odf&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/ooo%20conference&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;ooo conference&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/ooxml&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;ooxml&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/openoffice&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;openoffice&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Technorati Tags End --&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+
+
+&lt;p&gt;Related posts:&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/02/beijing-im-coming/&quot; 
rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Beijing, I&amp;#8217;m 
coming&quot;&gt;Beijing, I&amp;#8217;m 
coming&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/02/22/open-letter-to-microsoft/&quot;
 rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Open Letter to 
Microsoft&quot;&gt;Open Letter to Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/05/beijing-day-one-and-before/&quot;
 rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Beijing, day one (and 
before)&quot;&gt;Beijing, day one (and 
before)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div 
class=&quot;feedflare&quot;&gt;
+&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=W2U4N&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=W2U4N&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=g5h9N&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=g5h9N&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=bTNjn&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=bTNjn&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img 
src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/463254723&quot; 
height=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;</content:encoded>
+       <dc:date>2008-11-23T23:00:14+00:00</dc:date>
+</item>
 <item rdf:about="http://www.mealldubh.org/?p=607";>
        <title>John McCreesh: Good news for 330 million people</title>
        
<link>http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/11/23/good-news-for-330-million-people/</link>
@@ -240,13 +264,5 @@
 &lt;p&gt;However, we&amp;#8217;ve taken a &amp;#8216;better safe than 
sorry&amp;#8217; view, so when we do finally pop the champagne corks for ten 
million, we can do so with a clear conscience!&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
        <dc:date>2008-11-08T18:15:00+00:00</dc:date>
 </item>
-<item rdf:about="http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=905";>
-       <title>Benjamin Horst: ODF Templates from IBM</title>
-       <link>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/905</link>
-       <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;IBM&amp;#8217;s &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home&quot;&gt;Lotus
 Symphony&lt;/a&gt; was developed based on OpenOffice.org&amp;#8217;s codebase 
and uses the same ODF (OpenDocument Format) as its standard file 
format.&lt;/p&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;To help users create attractive documents, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/gallery.nsf/GalleryByDate?OpenView&amp;Count=10&quot;&gt;IBM
 has released a number of ODF file templates&lt;/a&gt; for things like 
schedules, invoices, budgets, memos, letters and presentations. While promoted 
on Symphony&amp;#8217;s website, these standard ODF files can be used in any 
compatible software suite, including &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.openoffice.org/&quot;&gt;OpenOffice.org&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.neooffice.org/&quot;&gt;NeoOffice&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://koffice.org/&quot;&gt;KOffice&lt;/a&gt; and many 
others.&lt;/p&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;Download and enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
-       <dc:date>2008-11-06T15:16:55+00:00</dc:date>
-</item>
 
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        <description>Marketing Planet - 
http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/</description>
 
 <item>
+       <title>Italo Vignoli: About Beijing, OOo, ODF and 
interoperability</title>
+       <guid>http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=493</guid>
+       <link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~3/463254723/</link>
+       <description>&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, I haven&amp;#8217;t had enough 
time to elucubrate about what I&amp;#8217;ve seen and heard in Beijing. 
Therefore, this is going to be a random collection of thoughts. Maybe, in the 
future I will have the time to add some comments.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;#8217;s start with a big thank to the organization. Kudos to 
everyone. The closing ceremony with the authentic emotion of RedFlag 
2000&amp;#8217;s managing director is something that will remain in my heart 
forever.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The sightseeings were also unforgettable. Pictures of everything are 
&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://picasaweb.google.com/italo.vignoli&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;A couple of remarks about the opening ceremony: four hours without a 
(coffee) break have been difficult to manage, especially a few days after a 
long flight and several hours before the usual time zone, and the slides in 
Chinese about UOF could have been translated and projected in English on the 
second screen (which was there). They were extremely interesting, but we have 
lost most of them because of the translation.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;OpenOffice.org is a mature project, which over the years has scaled 
to a level which was probably difficult to imagine back in 2001. The real 
strength of the project is the community of volunteers, although we 
can&amp;#8217;t forget the support of companies such as Sun - the founder of 
the project - plus IBM, Novell and RedFlag 2000.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Without the community, though, OpenOffice.org would not be where it 
is today, because Sun has still to identify a real strategy to monetize the 
effort and the investment, Novell is stuck in between the development effort 
and the agreement with Microsoft, RedFlag 2000 is still too young in the 
community to be a strategic asset, and IBM is taking a lot more than what is 
giving (and will continue to do so in the future, IMHO).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The community is going to be key in the process towards 
interoperability, although the companies would really like to keep it off the 
table. The community wasn&amp;#8217;t invited by Microsoft at their 
interoperability labs, the community wasn&amp;#8217;t invited by IBM at the 
Beijing interoperability table (I&amp;#8217;ve assisted for a couple of 
hours).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The community is key to reach the users (the fact that OpenOffice.org 
is stronger in France, Germany and Italy, where there&amp;#8217;s a stronger 
and better organized community, it&amp;#8217;s not a coincidence, and should be 
taken in due consideration by the companies), and the users are key for the 
success of a file format (users are individuals, enterprises and governments, 
both local and national).&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Today, both IBM and Microsoft sit at the ODF interoperability table, 
together with several individuals and organizations. I strongly support the 
idea that Associazione PLIO should sit at the same table, in order to 
contribute to the development of the standard.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Technorati Tags Start --&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Technorati Tags:&lt;br /&gt;
+&lt;a href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/beijing&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;beijing&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/odf&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;odf&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/ooo%20conference&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;ooo conference&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/ooxml&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;ooxml&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://technorati.com/tag/openoffice&quot; 
rel=&quot;tag&quot;&gt;openoffice&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;!-- Technorati Tags End --&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+
+
+&lt;p&gt;Related posts:&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/02/beijing-im-coming/&quot; 
rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Beijing, I&amp;#8217;m 
coming&quot;&gt;Beijing, I&amp;#8217;m 
coming&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/02/22/open-letter-to-microsoft/&quot;
 rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Open Letter to 
Microsoft&quot;&gt;Open Letter to Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.italovignoli.org/2008/11/05/beijing-day-one-and-before/&quot;
 rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Permanent Link: Beijing, day one (and 
before)&quot;&gt;Beijing, day one (and 
before)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div 
class=&quot;feedflare&quot;&gt;
+&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=W2U4N&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=W2U4N&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=g5h9N&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=g5h9N&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?a=bTNjn&quot;&gt;&lt;img
 src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~f/ItalosOOoBlog?i=bTNjn&quot; 
border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img 
src=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ItalosOOoBlog/~4/463254723&quot; 
height=&quot;1&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;</description>
+       <pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
+</item>
+<item>
        <title>John McCreesh: Good news for 330 million people</title>
        <guid>http://www.mealldubh.org/?p=607</guid>
        
<link>http://www.mealldubh.org/index.php/2008/11/23/good-news-for-330-million-people/</link>
@@ -226,15 +251,6 @@
 &lt;p&gt;However, we&amp;#8217;ve taken a &amp;#8216;better safe than 
sorry&amp;#8217; view, so when we do finally pop the champagne corks for ten 
million, we can do so with a clear conscience!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
 </item>
-<item>
-       <title>Benjamin Horst: ODF Templates from IBM</title>
-       <guid>http://www.solidoffice.com/?p=905</guid>
-       <link>http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/905</link>
-       <description>&lt;p&gt;IBM&amp;#8217;s &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home&quot;&gt;Lotus
 Symphony&lt;/a&gt; was developed based on OpenOffice.org&amp;#8217;s codebase 
and uses the same ODF (OpenDocument Format) as its standard file 
format.&lt;/p&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;To help users create attractive documents, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/gallery.nsf/GalleryByDate?OpenView&amp;Count=10&quot;&gt;IBM
 has released a number of ODF file templates&lt;/a&gt; for things like 
schedules, invoices, budgets, memos, letters and presentations. While promoted 
on Symphony&amp;#8217;s website, these standard ODF files can be used in any 
compatible software suite, including &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.openoffice.org/&quot;&gt;OpenOffice.org&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.neooffice.org/&quot;&gt;NeoOffice&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://koffice.org/&quot;&gt;KOffice&lt;/a&gt; and many 
others.&lt;/p&gt;
-&lt;p&gt;Download and enjoy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
-       <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
-</item>
 
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