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Date: 2009-01-18 00:00:47+0000
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+       <entry xml:lang="en">
+               <title type="html">United we stand, divided…we are still 
standing.</title>
+               <link 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/"/>
+               
<id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/</id>
+               <updated>2009-01-17T18:14:46+00:00</updated>
+               <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;Some unfortunate news have been 
spreading around the web recently concerning « OpenOffice.org dying » and 
has sparkled some interesting articles. I got interviewed  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/09/interview-with-charles-h-schulz/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;,
 some  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/what_was_done_for_openoffice&quot;&gt;very
 good answer&lt;/a&gt; to those extravagant claims was posted on the Sun 
OpenOffice.org&amp;#8217;s blog, and I am pretty sure that we will read more 
and more about it soon.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I would just like to mention three additional points before 
describing my view of a “ post-Novell” OpenOffice.org.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;ul&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The claims made by Michael Meeks, especially the ones related to what 
kind of data he shows do not take into account the extensions repository. I 
agree that extensions are by definition not part of the code base, but given 
the rate of upload of new extensions we&amp;#8217;re having at the moment (50 
extensions during December 2008) this starts to become non-trivial. Hence the 
data does not take into account the contributions made almost exclusively by 
non-Sun staff.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Michael makes all those claims and that&amp;#8217;s his right to do 
so but -and that&amp;#8217;s not an ad-hominem attack- one should remember that 
 &lt;em&gt;Michael Meeks has not contributed a single line of code to 
OpenOffice.org since two years&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;span&gt;Both his own blog and 
the logs of the commits show that Michael is nowhere to be seen. What shall we 
be doing with this? Pretty simply, I value both code and non-code contributions 
(contrary to Michael), and I have a hard time understanding where Michael 
stands anywhere in our community. Calling OpenOffice.org anything similar to a 
dead horse is a strong statement for someone who does not contribute, but only 
criticizes a project.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Some time ago stats about CVS commits surfaced and the 
results were eloquent: Sun was by far the strongest contributor. Others counted 
Novell, Red Hat, Debian, etc. But these were not the second largest 
contributor. The label “ community” was the second one. By this it was 
meant, people with no “famous” affiliation contributed more than anything 
Novell was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;/ul&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;So will we survive a fork from Novell? I do believe we 
will. First, the fork is already made. I haven&amp;#8217; t seen developers 
leaving in flock to 
go-give-your-code-and-let-us-make-money-for-ourselves.org&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Second, a fork is only really interesting if at some 
point it sensibly differs from its parent. Concerning the parent, I think a lot 
of work has to be done but things have improved a lot, the product is great, 
adoption is exponential and the future looks exciting. The fork itself is a bit 
of a mystery. Of course, we will likely see some bug hunting and a bunch of 
cool patches that will end up being implemented inside OpenOffice.org unless 
those patches are actually ported to the fork. There will also be the 
much-overstated bazaar-like incremental development (so you don&amp;#8217;t 
need a roadmap in theory) to consider, but above all, my little finger tells me 
there will be a lot of “contributions” made to ensure the fork will support 
more and more&lt;/span&gt;  
&lt;strike&gt;&lt;span&gt;Microsoft&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strike&gt; 
&lt;span&gt;Novell technologies and hence stay the faithful and loyal second of 
Microsoft Office for ever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Still excited about go-oo? Be my guest, go ahead and 
contribute!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p class=&quot;akst_link&quot;&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=113&amp;akst_action=share-this&quot;
 title=&quot;E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc.&quot; 
id=&quot;akst_link_113&quot; class=&quot;akst_share_link&quot; 
rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Share This&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;</content>
+               <author>
+                       <name>Charles Schulz</name>
+                       <uri>http://standardsandfreedom.net</uri>
+               </author>
+               <source>
+                       <title type="html">Moved by Freedom - Powered by 
Standards » OOo Postings</title>
+                       <subtitle type="html">A weblog by Charles-H. 
Schulz.</subtitle>
+                       <link rel="self" 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed"/>
+                       
<id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed</id>
+                       <updated>2009-01-18T00:00:18+00:00</updated>
+               </source>
+       </entry>
+
        <entry>
                <title type="html">Mail merge in OpenOffice.org</title>
                <link 
href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2009/01/mail-merge-in-openofficeorg.html"/>
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<id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id>
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<id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id>
-                       <updated>2009-01-17T18:00:21+00:00</updated>
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-                       <updated>2009-01-17T18:00:21+00:00</updated>
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<id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id>
-                       <updated>2009-01-17T18:00:21+00:00</updated>
+                       <updated>2009-01-18T00:00:21+00:00</updated>
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@@ -369,7 +409,7 @@
                        <subtitle type="html">A weblog by Charles-H. 
Schulz.</subtitle>
                        <link rel="self" 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed"/>
                        
<id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed</id>
-                       <updated>2009-01-17T18:00:18+00:00</updated>
+                       <updated>2009-01-18T00:00:18+00:00</updated>
                </source>
        </entry>
 
@@ -406,7 +446,7 @@
                        <subtitle type="html">A weblog by Charles-H. 
Schulz.</subtitle>
                        <link rel="self" 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed"/>
                        
<id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed</id>
-                       <updated>2009-01-17T18:00:18+00:00</updated>
+                       <updated>2009-01-18T00:00:18+00:00</updated>
                </source>
        </entry>
 
@@ -504,31 +544,4 @@
                </source>
        </entry>
 
-       <entry>
-               <title type="html">New: OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 
1 (build OOO300_m14) available</title>
-               <link 
href="http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_openoffice_org_3_08"/>
-               <id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/item/e030ca87d13ad327</id>
-               <updated>2008-12-23T13:13:29+00:00</updated>
-               <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;We had the plan to publish 
&lt;b&gt;OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 1 &lt;/b&gt;before Christmas 
and actually we reached this goal. &lt;b&gt;OOo 3.0.1 RC 1 &lt;/b&gt;(build 
&lt;b&gt;OOO300_m14)&lt;/b&gt; has
-been uploaded to the mirror network. So we hope that you will find a nice 
place for it under your tree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If
-you find severe issues within this build please file them to
-OpenOffice.org's bug tracking system IssueTracker. If you think the
-issue is a show stopper then please notify the releases mailing list.&lt;br 
/&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Please use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a 
title=&quot;Download page&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;When the Bouncer links don't work, please select one of the 
&lt;b&gt;extended&lt;/b&gt; mirrors at the following page ( &lt;b&gt;listed 
with an [E]&lt;/b&gt; ) and download the bits from the 
&amp;quot;.../extended/developer/OOO300_m14&amp;quot; directory:&lt;br 
/&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;Choose an alternative download location&quot; 
href=&quot;http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors&quot;&gt;http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;Or you can use the following website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a 
title=&quot;Download page without Javascript&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;MD5 checksums:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;Page containing MD5 
checksums&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot to everyone who has made this possible.&lt;/p&gt; 
-  &lt;p&gt;Merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year for you and your loved ones. 
:-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content>
-               <author>
-                       <name>Marcus Lange</name>
-                       <uri></uri>
-               </author>
-               <source>
-                       <title type="html">jpmcc's shared items in Google 
Reader</title>
-                       <link rel="self" 
href="http://www.google.co.uk/reader/public/atom/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast"/>
-                       
<id>tag:google.com,2005:reader/user/06203502505240591501/state/com.google/broadcast</id>
-                       <updated>2009-01-17T18:00:21+00:00</updated>
-               </source>
-       </entry>
-
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 <a href="rss20.xml"><img src="rss2.gif" alt="Link to RSS 2 feed" /></a>
 </div>
 
-<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a 
href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: January 17, 2009 06:00 PM 
GMT</em></p>
+<p><em>Bloggings on marketing topics by project members - see <a 
href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: January 18, 2009 12:00 AM 
GMT</em></p>
 
 <h2>January 17, 2009</h2>
 <h3>
+<a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net"; title="Moved by Freedom - Powered by 
Standards » OOo Postings">
+Charles Schulz</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
+<a 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/";>
+United we stand, divided…we are still standing.</a>
+</h3>
+<p>
+<p>Some unfortunate news have been spreading around the web recently 
concerning « OpenOffice.org dying » and has sparkled some interesting 
articles. I got interviewed  <a 
href="http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/09/interview-with-charles-h-schulz/";>here</a>,
 some  <a 
href="http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/what_was_done_for_openoffice";>very 
good answer</a> to those extravagant claims was posted on the Sun 
OpenOffice.org&#8217;s blog, and I am pretty sure that we will read more and 
more about it soon.</p>
+<p> </p>
+<p>I would just like to mention three additional points before describing my 
view of a “ post-Novell” OpenOffice.org.</p>
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>The claims made by Michael Meeks, especially the ones related to what kind 
of data he shows do not take into account the extensions repository. I agree 
that extensions are by definition not part of the code base, but given the rate 
of upload of new extensions we&#8217;re having at the moment (50 extensions 
during December 2008) this starts to become non-trivial. Hence the data does 
not take into account the contributions made almost exclusively by non-Sun 
staff.</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Michael makes all those claims and that&#8217;s his right to do so but -and 
that&#8217;s not an ad-hominem attack- one should remember that  <em>Michael 
Meeks has not contributed a single line of code to OpenOffice.org since two 
years</em>.  <span>Both his own blog and the logs of the commits show that 
Michael is nowhere to be seen. What shall we be doing with this? Pretty simply, 
I value both code and non-code contributions (contrary to Michael), and I have 
a hard time understanding where Michael stands anywhere in our community. 
Calling OpenOffice.org anything similar to a dead horse is a strong statement 
for someone who does not contribute, but only criticizes a project.</span></p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p> <span>Some time ago stats about CVS commits surfaced and the results were 
eloquent: Sun was by far the strongest contributor. Others counted Novell, Red 
Hat, Debian, etc. But these were not the second largest contributor. The label 
“ community” was the second one. By this it was meant, people with no 
“famous” affiliation contributed more than anything Novell was.</span></p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+<p> </p>
+<p> <span>So will we survive a fork from Novell? I do believe we will. First, 
the fork is already made. I haven&#8217; t seen developers leaving in flock to 
go-give-your-code-and-let-us-make-money-for-ourselves.org</span></p>
+<p> <span>Second, a fork is only really interesting if at some point it 
sensibly differs from its parent. Concerning the parent, I think a lot of work 
has to be done but things have improved a lot, the product is great, adoption 
is exponential and the future looks exciting. The fork itself is a bit of a 
mystery. Of course, we will likely see some bug hunting and a bunch of cool 
patches that will end up being implemented inside OpenOffice.org unless those 
patches are actually ported to the fork. There will also be the much-overstated 
bazaar-like incremental development (so you don&#8217;t need a roadmap in 
theory) to consider, but above all, my little finger tells me there will be a 
lot of “contributions” made to ensure the fork will support more and 
more</span>  <strike><span>Microsoft</span></strike> <span>Novell technologies 
and hence stay the faithful and loyal second of Microsoft Office for 
ever.</span></p>
+<p> </p>
+<p> <span>Still excited about go-oo? Be my guest, go ahead and 
contribute!</span></p>
+<p><br clear="left" /></p>
+<p class="akst_link"><a 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=113&akst_action=share-this"; 
title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_113" 
class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a>
+</p></p>
+<p>
+<em><a 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/";>by
 Charles at January 17, 2009 06:14 PM GMT</a></em>
+</p>
+<br />
+<hr />
+<br />
+<h3>
 <a href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/"; title="OpenOffice.org Marketing 
Blog">
 OOo Marketeers</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
 <a 
href="http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2009/01/mail-merge-in-openofficeorg.html";>
@@ -454,30 +489,6 @@
 <br />
 <hr />
 <br />
-<h2>December 23, 2008</h2>
-<h3>
-<a href="" title="jpmcc's shared items in Google Reader">
-GullFOSS</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
-<a href="http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_openoffice_org_3_08";>
-New: OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 1 (build OOO300_m14) available</a>
-</h3>
-<p>
-<p>We had the plan to publish <b>OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 1 
</b>before Christmas and actually we reached this goal. <b>OOo 3.0.1 RC 1 
</b>(build <b>OOO300_m14)</b> has
-been uploaded to the mirror network. So we hope that you will find a nice 
place for it under your tree.<br /><br />If
-you find severe issues within this build please file them to
-OpenOffice.org's bug tracking system IssueTracker. If you think the
-issue is a show stopper then please notify the releases mailing list.<br /> 
<br />Please use the following link:<br /><a title="Download page" 
href="http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html";>http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html</a></p>
 
-  <p>When the Bouncer links don't work, please select one of the 
<b>extended</b> mirrors at the following page ( <b>listed with an [E]</b> ) and 
download the bits from the &quot;.../extended/developer/OOO300_m14&quot; 
directory:<br /><a title="Choose an alternative download location" 
href="http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors";>http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors</a></p>
 
-  <p>Or you can use the following website:<br /><a title="Download page 
without Javascript" 
href="http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html";>http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html</a></p>
 
-  <p>MD5 checksums:<br /><a title="Page containing MD5 checksums" 
href="http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html";>http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html</a></p>
 
-  <p>Thanks a lot to everyone who has made this possible.</p> 
-  <p>Merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year for you and your loved ones. :-)<br 
/></p></p>
-<p>
-<em><a href="http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_openoffice_org_3_08";>by 
Marcus Lange at December 23, 2008 01:13 PM GMT</a></em>
-</p>
-<br />
-<hr />
-<br />
 <a id="disclaimer" name="disclaimer"></a>
 <p><em>Disclaimer: all views expressed on this page are those 
 of the individual contributors, and may not reflect the views of the 

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+<item 
rdf:about="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/";>
+       <title>Charles Schulz: United we stand, divided…we are still 
standing.</title>
+       
<link>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/</link>
+       <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;Some unfortunate news have been spreading 
around the web recently concerning « OpenOffice.org dying » and has 
sparkled some interesting articles. I got interviewed  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/09/interview-with-charles-h-schulz/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;,
 some  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/what_was_done_for_openoffice&quot;&gt;very
 good answer&lt;/a&gt; to those extravagant claims was posted on the Sun 
OpenOffice.org&amp;#8217;s blog, and I am pretty sure that we will read more 
and more about it soon.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I would just like to mention three additional points before 
describing my view of a “ post-Novell” OpenOffice.org.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;ul&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The claims made by Michael Meeks, especially the ones related to what 
kind of data he shows do not take into account the extensions repository. I 
agree that extensions are by definition not part of the code base, but given 
the rate of upload of new extensions we&amp;#8217;re having at the moment (50 
extensions during December 2008) this starts to become non-trivial. Hence the 
data does not take into account the contributions made almost exclusively by 
non-Sun staff.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Michael makes all those claims and that&amp;#8217;s his right to do 
so but -and that&amp;#8217;s not an ad-hominem attack- one should remember that 
 &lt;em&gt;Michael Meeks has not contributed a single line of code to 
OpenOffice.org since two years&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;span&gt;Both his own blog and 
the logs of the commits show that Michael is nowhere to be seen. What shall we 
be doing with this? Pretty simply, I value both code and non-code contributions 
(contrary to Michael), and I have a hard time understanding where Michael 
stands anywhere in our community. Calling OpenOffice.org anything similar to a 
dead horse is a strong statement for someone who does not contribute, but only 
criticizes a project.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Some time ago stats about CVS commits surfaced and the 
results were eloquent: Sun was by far the strongest contributor. Others counted 
Novell, Red Hat, Debian, etc. But these were not the second largest 
contributor. The label “ community” was the second one. By this it was 
meant, people with no “famous” affiliation contributed more than anything 
Novell was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;/ul&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;So will we survive a fork from Novell? I do believe we 
will. First, the fork is already made. I haven&amp;#8217; t seen developers 
leaving in flock to 
go-give-your-code-and-let-us-make-money-for-ourselves.org&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Second, a fork is only really interesting if at some 
point it sensibly differs from its parent. Concerning the parent, I think a lot 
of work has to be done but things have improved a lot, the product is great, 
adoption is exponential and the future looks exciting. The fork itself is a bit 
of a mystery. Of course, we will likely see some bug hunting and a bunch of 
cool patches that will end up being implemented inside OpenOffice.org unless 
those patches are actually ported to the fork. There will also be the 
much-overstated bazaar-like incremental development (so you don&amp;#8217;t 
need a roadmap in theory) to consider, but above all, my little finger tells me 
there will be a lot of “contributions” made to ensure the fork will support 
more and more&lt;/span&gt;  
&lt;strike&gt;&lt;span&gt;Microsoft&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strike&gt; 
&lt;span&gt;Novell technologies and hence stay the faithful and loyal second of 
Microsoft Office for ever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Still excited about go-oo? Be my guest, go ahead and 
contribute!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p class=&quot;akst_link&quot;&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=113&amp;akst_action=share-this&quot;
 title=&quot;E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc.&quot; 
id=&quot;akst_link_113&quot; class=&quot;akst_share_link&quot; 
rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Share This&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
+       <dc:date>2009-01-17T18:14:46+00:00</dc:date>
+</item>
 <item 
rdf:about="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-2989073072857409402">
        <title>OOo Marketeers: Mail merge in OpenOffice.org</title>
        
<link>http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2009/01/mail-merge-in-openofficeorg.html</link>
@@ -294,21 +321,5 @@
 &lt;p&gt;May I wish them every success with their Christmas present, and on 
their behalf, thank all those around the world who have made &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://why.openoffice.org/&quot;&gt;OpenOffice.org&lt;/a&gt; what it 
is today - the world&amp;#8217;s leading open-source office productivity 
suite.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
        <dc:date>2008-12-25T10:35:19+00:00</dc:date>
 </item>
-<item rdf:about="tag:google.com,2005:reader/item/e030ca87d13ad327">
-       <title>GullFOSS: New: OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 1 (build 
OOO300_m14) available</title>
-       <link>http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_openoffice_org_3_08</link>
-       <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;We had the plan to publish 
&lt;b&gt;OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 1 &lt;/b&gt;before Christmas 
and actually we reached this goal. &lt;b&gt;OOo 3.0.1 RC 1 &lt;/b&gt;(build 
&lt;b&gt;OOO300_m14)&lt;/b&gt; has
-been uploaded to the mirror network. So we hope that you will find a nice 
place for it under your tree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If
-you find severe issues within this build please file them to
-OpenOffice.org's bug tracking system IssueTracker. If you think the
-issue is a show stopper then please notify the releases mailing list.&lt;br 
/&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Please use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a 
title=&quot;Download page&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;When the Bouncer links don't work, please select one of the 
&lt;b&gt;extended&lt;/b&gt; mirrors at the following page ( &lt;b&gt;listed 
with an [E]&lt;/b&gt; ) and download the bits from the 
&amp;quot;.../extended/developer/OOO300_m14&amp;quot; directory:&lt;br 
/&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;Choose an alternative download location&quot; 
href=&quot;http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors&quot;&gt;http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;Or you can use the following website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a 
title=&quot;Download page without Javascript&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;MD5 checksums:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;Page containing MD5 
checksums&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot to everyone who has made this possible.&lt;/p&gt; 
-  &lt;p&gt;Merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year for you and your loved ones. 
:-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
-       <dc:date>2008-12-23T13:13:29+00:00</dc:date>
-       <dc:creator>Marcus Lange</dc:creator>
-</item>
 
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@@ -8,6 +8,34 @@
        <description>Marketing Planet - 
http://marketing.openoffice.org/planet/</description>
 
 <item>
+       <title>Charles Schulz: United we stand, divided…we are still 
standing.</title>
+       
<guid>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/</guid>
+       
<link>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/01/17/united-we-stand-divided-we-are-still-standing/</link>
+       <description>&lt;p&gt;Some unfortunate news have been spreading around 
the web recently concerning « OpenOffice.org dying » and has sparkled some 
interesting articles. I got interviewed  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/09/interview-with-charles-h-schulz/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;,
 some  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/what_was_done_for_openoffice&quot;&gt;very
 good answer&lt;/a&gt; to those extravagant claims was posted on the Sun 
OpenOffice.org&amp;#8217;s blog, and I am pretty sure that we will read more 
and more about it soon.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I would just like to mention three additional points before 
describing my view of a “ post-Novell” OpenOffice.org.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;ul&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;The claims made by Michael Meeks, especially the ones related to what 
kind of data he shows do not take into account the extensions repository. I 
agree that extensions are by definition not part of the code base, but given 
the rate of upload of new extensions we&amp;#8217;re having at the moment (50 
extensions during December 2008) this starts to become non-trivial. Hence the 
data does not take into account the contributions made almost exclusively by 
non-Sun staff.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Michael makes all those claims and that&amp;#8217;s his right to do 
so but -and that&amp;#8217;s not an ad-hominem attack- one should remember that 
 &lt;em&gt;Michael Meeks has not contributed a single line of code to 
OpenOffice.org since two years&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;span&gt;Both his own blog and 
the logs of the commits show that Michael is nowhere to be seen. What shall we 
be doing with this? Pretty simply, I value both code and non-code contributions 
(contrary to Michael), and I have a hard time understanding where Michael 
stands anywhere in our community. Calling OpenOffice.org anything similar to a 
dead horse is a strong statement for someone who does not contribute, but only 
criticizes a project.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;li&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Some time ago stats about CVS commits surfaced and the 
results were eloquent: Sun was by far the strongest contributor. Others counted 
Novell, Red Hat, Debian, etc. But these were not the second largest 
contributor. The label “ community” was the second one. By this it was 
meant, people with no “famous” affiliation contributed more than anything 
Novell was.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;/li&gt;
+&lt;/ul&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;So will we survive a fork from Novell? I do believe we 
will. First, the fork is already made. I haven&amp;#8217; t seen developers 
leaving in flock to 
go-give-your-code-and-let-us-make-money-for-ourselves.org&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Second, a fork is only really interesting if at some 
point it sensibly differs from its parent. Concerning the parent, I think a lot 
of work has to be done but things have improved a lot, the product is great, 
adoption is exponential and the future looks exciting. The fork itself is a bit 
of a mystery. Of course, we will likely see some bug hunting and a bunch of 
cool patches that will end up being implemented inside OpenOffice.org unless 
those patches are actually ported to the fork. There will also be the 
much-overstated bazaar-like incremental development (so you don&amp;#8217;t 
need a roadmap in theory) to consider, but above all, my little finger tells me 
there will be a lot of “contributions” made to ensure the fork will support 
more and more&lt;/span&gt;  
&lt;strike&gt;&lt;span&gt;Microsoft&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strike&gt; 
&lt;span&gt;Novell technologies and hence stay the faithful and loyal second of 
Microsoft Office for ever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt; &lt;span&gt;Still excited about go-oo? Be my guest, go ahead and 
contribute!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p class=&quot;akst_link&quot;&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=113&amp;akst_action=share-this&quot;
 title=&quot;E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc.&quot; 
id=&quot;akst_link_113&quot; class=&quot;akst_share_link&quot; 
rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Share This&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;</description>
+       <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
+</item>
+<item>
        <title>OOo Marketeers: Mail merge in OpenOffice.org</title>
        
<guid>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4887643299605448632.post-2989073072857409402</guid>
        
<link>http://ooomarketing.blogspot.com/2009/01/mail-merge-in-openofficeorg.html</link>
@@ -279,22 +307,6 @@
 &lt;p&gt;May I wish them every success with their Christmas present, and on 
their behalf, thank all those around the world who have made &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://why.openoffice.org/&quot;&gt;OpenOffice.org&lt;/a&gt; what it 
is today - the world&amp;#8217;s leading open-source office productivity 
suite.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
        <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
 </item>
-<item>
-       <title>GullFOSS: New: OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 1 (build 
OOO300_m14) available</title>
-       <guid>tag:google.com,2005:reader/item/e030ca87d13ad327</guid>
-       <link>http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_openoffice_org_3_08</link>
-       <description>&lt;p&gt;We had the plan to publish 
&lt;b&gt;OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 Release Candidate 1 &lt;/b&gt;before Christmas 
and actually we reached this goal. &lt;b&gt;OOo 3.0.1 RC 1 &lt;/b&gt;(build 
&lt;b&gt;OOO300_m14)&lt;/b&gt; has
-been uploaded to the mirror network. So we hope that you will find a nice 
place for it under your tree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If
-you find severe issues within this build please file them to
-OpenOffice.org's bug tracking system IssueTracker. If you think the
-issue is a show stopper then please notify the releases mailing list.&lt;br 
/&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Please use the following link:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a 
title=&quot;Download page&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;When the Bouncer links don't work, please select one of the 
&lt;b&gt;extended&lt;/b&gt; mirrors at the following page ( &lt;b&gt;listed 
with an [E]&lt;/b&gt; ) and download the bits from the 
&amp;quot;.../extended/developer/OOO300_m14&amp;quot; directory:&lt;br 
/&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;Choose an alternative download location&quot; 
href=&quot;http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors&quot;&gt;http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;Or you can use the following website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a 
title=&quot;Download page without Javascript&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/index-nojs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;MD5 checksums:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;Page containing MD5 
checksums&quot; 
href=&quot;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html&quot;&gt;http://download.openoffice.org/3.0.1rc1/md5sums.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
 
-  &lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot to everyone who has made this possible.&lt;/p&gt; 
-  &lt;p&gt;Merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year for you and your loved ones. 
:-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
-       <pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
-</item>
 
 </channel>
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