On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 12:05 -0500, Sean Burns wrote:
> Theresa Kehoe wrote:
>   > Uh huh.  And in the meanwhile, if you use it, "all your base are 
> belong
> > to us".  
> 
> Part of the problem is due to our draconian copyright law and Google 
> is simply trying to protect itself:
> 
> "11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in 
> Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the 
> Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give 
> Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and 
> non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, 
> publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any 
> Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the 
> Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to 
> display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for 
> certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services."
> 
> Strictly speaking, when an image search is conducted on Google, 
> those thumbnails we see could be understood as derivative works and 
> thusly would be in violation of copyright.  Even a translation, w/o 
> permission, is a copyright violation because it's considered 
> derivative of the original work.  So when we see that "Translate 
> this page" option on a Google search result, it's theoretically a 
> copyright violation to click on that.  There's even some debate 
> about whether hyperlinking is a copyright violation, especially deep 
> linking to a page.
> 
> When a Linux version becomes available and if there's still a 
> different license for the source code and the binary, one solution 
> would be to compile it ourselves, and even make alterations.  Heck, 
> if it's a BSD license, we simply have to attribute the source code, 
> we could even make a proprietary version if we wanted to be evil.
> 
> Anyway, it's not Google really.  It's copyright law that causes all 
> this legal idiocy.

So how come Mozilla's Firefox EULA does not lay claim to own everything
I submit, post, or display on or through their services?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/legal/eula/firefox-en.html

If it is just copyright law, then surely Mozilla Firefox would be sued
out of existence in a day?

Theresa


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