Which is why you should encrypt everything, even emails, if they are
sensitive.  You can always claim you forgot your password.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Scott Granneman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have no idea. My point is, thanks to W & a cowardly Congress, we have few
> 4th Amendment rights any longer. Cloud, ISP, whatever. If the Feds want it,
> they're getting it.
>
> Scott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 18, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Nathan Nutter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Was Google prohibited from notifying the customer of the search warrant?
>>
>> --Nathan
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Scott Granneman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dude, with the PATRIOT Act in place, the Feds can do ANYTHING, & you'll
>>> NEVER find out.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2010, at 2:09 PM, "Mike B." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's different in that the warrant was issued 6 months prior to the
>>>> owners finding out about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Scott Granneman <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How is this any less safe than the Feds getting a warrant for your
>>>>> email
>>>>> at
>>>>> AT&T or even on your box?
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Feds want your stuff, you're hosed any way you go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 4:12 PM, "Mike B." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been saying that the cloud is not the smartest way to go if you
>>>>>> want to protect your data.  I'm not a fan of spammers; in fact I love
>>>>>> seeing them hurt.  But if you have proprietary data, the cloud in not
>>>>>> the way to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/cloud-warrant/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Short quote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "FBI agents targeting alleged criminal spammers last year obtained a
>>>>>> trove of incriminating documents from a suspect’s Google Docs account,
>>>>>> in what appears to be the first publicly acknowledged search warrant
>>>>>> benefiting from a suspect’s reliance on cloud computing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The warrant, issued August 21 in the Western District of New York,
>>>>>> targeted Levi Beers and Chris de Diego, the alleged operators of a
>>>>>> firm called Pulse Marketing, which was suspected of launching a
>>>>>> deceptive e-mail campaign touting a diet supplement called Acai Pure.
>>>>>> The warrant demanded the e-mail and “all Google Apps content”
>>>>>> belonging to the men, according to a summary in court records."
>>>>>>
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