Hi there

Few more comments.

Jersey allows for external providers be picked up from a classpath using a 
ServiceProvider mechanism.
If we compare that approach with using the spring configuration to inject 
entity providers, then we can see these are
just two different paths for external providers to get into the runtime. 
In both cases there's really no need to specify all the entity providers 
(message body readers/writers as per the new api) which may be needed for a 
given application to function properly.
As I said earlier, JAX-RS requires for a bunch of types like Response, 
JAXB-annotated ones, primitives, InputStream, Source, etc be supported out of 
the box and after it gets finalized we'll have a TCK which will enforce that a 
given implementation does provide it all out of the box. 
Thus, a given user should only worry about external providers when none of the 
shipped providers can go the job. In this case, requiring a user to specify 
upfront a list of all the providers, including default ones (which can be 
nested or indeed private classes not intended for the publication), would be 
problematic IMHO. Among other things, it would limit the dynamism of a given 
application which can have new types/formats introduced after it has been 
started. I can also see users failing to specify the right list for a given 
application for the first few times and getting frustrated.

As far as adding external entity providers is concerned, I believe there're 
primarily two cases :
1. Runtime does not support the marshalling/unmarshalling of a given custom 
type. In this case just specifying a custom provider's name would do (as in the 
Barry's proposed patch) and the instance would be just added to the list of 
existing providers, the runtime will take care of utilizing it, based on its 
ProduceMime/ConsumeMime annotations and its support for a given class type.
2. Customer is not happy how, say, a given default provider works (that is, 
how, say, it's converted into/from text/plain representations) and would like 
to replace it with its own highly optimized implementation. JAX-RS requires 
such custom providers be supported. IMHO, this is not the highest priority 
issue for the CXF JAX-RS at this moment of time, but it's something which need 
to be supported. How we do it I'm not sure yet, we could introspect providers 
properly at the start. 

For example, lets say we have a default File provider (for all media types 
*/*), as mandated by the spec, this provider just uses older plain File 
input/output streams wrapped into readers/writers. Customer wants to replace it 
with a nio-based implementation. At the start-up we can check the annotations 
for a given custom provider class and check if its instance supports any of the 
types already supported by the runtime and if yes then, for a given JAX-RS 
server endpoint, assume that a custom provider needs to take charge... or 
perhaps just replace the default instance which will have a global effect for 
al lthe endpoints. Something like that.

Barry, have I convinced you :-) ? Would you be happy for your patch to address 
an issue 1 above for a start but such that no replacement happens ?

Thanks, Sergey





Hi Barry

Lets move a discussion on CXF-1425 to this list.

In summary,
we're discussing with Barry whether a list of JAX-RS Entity Providers (which 
know how to marshal/unmarshal given types) as 
configured in a given spring xml, should override a default list or not.

IMHO it should not be the case. It would put a strain on users. Users do not 
need to know about the fact that a given Book class 
will only be marshalled if a JAXB-aware provider is installed. If a given set 
of returned types is large then it will get 
complicated. User just need to know about the content type, XMLRootElement and 
similar things. Users do not need to know about class 
names for individual default providers, this will form some sort of a contract 
between a runtime and a user thus making it more 
difficult for us to change the things under the hood.

For example, we can configure a Jetty handler, say we can add a Jetty handler. 
When doing it we do not need to specify all other 
types of handlers jetty may've set up under the hood. I believe we should 
follow the same practise in this case.

As far as duplicates is conncerned : this is easy, lets just have a Set of full 
class names for individual providers. That would do 
for a start.

Thoughts ?

Cheers, Sergey

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