> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Richard Smith <richardsm...@google.com > <mailto:richardsm...@google.com>> wrote: > On 11 October 2016 at 15:17, John McCall <rjmcc...@apple.com > <mailto:rjmcc...@apple.com>> wrote: >> On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Richard Smith <richardsm...@google.com >> <mailto:richardsm...@google.com>> wrote: >> Under >> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0012r1.html >> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/p0012r1.html> >> >> the noexceptness of a function type is now part of the type. As a result, we >> need manglings for exception-specifications on function pointer/reference >> types: >> >> void f(void()) {} >> void f(void() noexcept) {} // ok, overload not redefinition >> >> (It's not clear to me whether or not this was also necessary prior to C++17 >> to handle dependent exception specifications that appear lexically within >> the parameter list of a function template, and actual implementation >> practice varies as to whether such exception specifications are SFINAEable.) >> >> >> In order to handle overloading/SFINAE on exception specifications in >> dependent cases, we need to be able to mangle not only "noexcept", but also >> "noexcept(expression)" and "throw(<types>)". Suggestion for manglings: >> >> <exception-spec> ::= >> nx -- non-throwing exception specification >> nX <expression> E -- computed (value-dependent) noexcept >> tw <type>* E -- throw (types) >> >> <function-type> ::= [<CV-qualifiers>] [<exception-spec>] [Dx] F [Y] >> <bare-function-type> [<ref-qualifier>] E >> >> In the case of throw(a, b, c), we could omit types that are neither >> instantiation-dependent nor pack expansions (if that omits all types, we can >> use the 'nx' mangling instead), since C++17 says you can't overload on the >> actual types in the dynamic exception specification, and we otherwise only >> need them to be present if they might result in a substitution failure. >> >> Thoughts? > > I think this is an amazingly late change to the language with pretty thin > justification; does that count? > > This really is a major change which can reasonably be expected to cause > substantial source and binary breakage. The proposal mentions > transaction_safe as a feature that added similar complexity, but that analogy > is weak because (1) TM is expected to be an optional TS, whereas noexcept is > a mandatory core language feature, and (2) existing code does not use the > transaction_safe attribute, whereas noexcept and throw() have seen widespread > adoption, in the latter case for years. > > If it is a goal of this proposal to eliminate the underspecified fake type > system around exception specifications, it is worth noting that it completely > fails to do so, since the checking rules for direct function pointer > assignments are still quite a bit stronger than those provided by the new > type system. > > That was indeed a goal here. Can you expand on how it fails? Ignoring the > (deprecated) dynamic exception specifications, this new approach seems > stronger than the old type system, since it works for function types being > arbitrarily nested within other types, not just one level deep within > function types and pointers.
Are there any implementations which actually plan to throw out the dynamic exception specification matching logic? > Hmm, I thought we had added a rule to allow B to be deduced in > > template<class R, class ...A, bool B> void f(R(A...) noexcept(B)); > > but it looks like we actually didn't. =( Hmm, that would work pretty well for this case. > Yes, the above is a problem, if noexcept function types start to appear in > existing code (for instance through use of decltype or by code that passes > around noexcept function pointers). Well, recall that noexcept function types have always been writable; they just didn't necessarily get enforced reliably. Also, noexcept and throw() are pretty popular, and aren't there proposals to infer them in more cases? It's really hard to say abstractly how much impact this will have. There's a lot of potential for breakage, but it's also quite possible that there won't be many changes and that almost all of them will be lost in the great grey expanse of C++ binary compatibility. > You will note that I have omitted the necessary specializations for > "transaction_safe", as well as the incredibly common extension of specialized > calling conventions. > > This also breaks source compatibility for template matching, and basically > every function template in the standard library is going to change manglings > (and become *much* larger) due to noexcept expressions now being mangled. > > It's a problem, but I don't think it's as bad as you claim. The mangling of a > function still wouldn't include its exception specification; this would only > affect mangling in cases where a parameter or return type or template > argument involves a function type with an exception-specification -- a lot > less common than every function template in the standard library, but this > still does change manglings for existing code. Okay, so it only triggers SFINAE failures in nested function types, and you can't overload templates by it? I agree that that helps a lot. > And the entire proposal seems to have forgotten about reference-to-function > types. > > The change to [dcl.init.ref]p4 allows a reference to non-noexcept function to > bind to a noexcept function, and this indirectly allows the same during > overload resolution, casts, and so on. What additional considerations were > missed? I hadn't realized that the expression logic was so consistent about defining e.g. the behavior of the conditional operator on l-values in terms of reference binding. I apologize. ...I see that this adds a new special case to exception handling. John. > But if we're just talking about manglings, then yes, I think your ABI > proposal is basically fine. :) It's a little unfortunate to include this > kind of discrimination so early in the mangling, because some object/image > file symbol tables optimize for symbols with common prefixes, but our > mangling scheme is generally poor at achieving that anyway. > > John. >
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